Glad MCPS is getting sued

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

I really can't imagine they would condone this kind of hate and bigotry.

Literally every other county in the state allows parents to opt out. There's nothing really working in the schools' favor here.

Every other county in the state allows parents to opt out of books in the ELA curriculum? Any books, for any reason? Or just books where someone is LGBTQ?

In particular, the School Board’s 2022-2023 “Guidelines for Respecting
Religious Diversity” (the “Guidelines”) “commit to making feasible and reasonable
accommodations for [religious] beliefs and practices.” See Ex. A at 1.
97. The School Board’s Guidelines promise:
a. “to accommodate requests from students, or requests from
parents/guardians on behalf of their students, to be excused from
specific classroom discussions or activities that they believe would
impose a substantial burden on their religious beliefs,” id. at 3;
b. to allow students “to be excused from the classroom activity if the
students, or their parents/guardians, believe the activity would invade
student privacy by calling attention to the student’s religion,” id. at 3-4;
and
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c. to “accommodate objections from students or their parents/guardians
to a particular reading assignment on religious grounds by providing an
alternative selection that meets the same lesson objectives,” id. at 4.
98. The Guidelines also ensure other religious accommodations for MCPS
students.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

I really can't imagine they would condone this kind of hate and bigotry.

Literally every other county in the state allows parents to opt out. There's nothing really working in the schools' favor here.

Every other county in the state allows parents to opt out of books in the ELA curriculum? Any books, for any reason? Or just books where someone is LGBTQ?

In particular, the School Board’s 2022-2023 “Guidelines for Respecting
Religious Diversity” (the “Guidelines”) “commit to making feasible and reasonable
accommodations for [religious] beliefs and practices.” See Ex. A at 1.
97. The School Board’s Guidelines promise:
a. “to accommodate requests from students, or requests from
parents/guardians on behalf of their students, to be excused from
specific classroom discussions or activities that they believe would
impose a substantial burden on their religious beliefs,” id. at 3;
b. to allow students “to be excused from the classroom activity if the
students, or their parents/guardians, believe the activity would invade
student privacy by calling attention to the student’s religion,” id. at 3-4;
and
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c. to “accommodate objections from students or their parents/guardians
to a particular reading assignment on religious grounds by providing an
alternative selection that meets the same lesson objectives,” id. at 4.
98. The Guidelines also ensure other religious accommodations for MCPS
students.

I can't wait to find out what other parts of the curriculum impose a substantial burden on parents' religious beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

I really can't imagine they would condone this kind of hate and bigotry.

Literally every other county in the state allows parents to opt out. There's nothing really working in the schools' favor here.

Every other county in the state allows parents to opt out of books in the ELA curriculum? Any books, for any reason? Or just books where someone is LGBTQ?

In particular, the School Board’s 2022-2023 “Guidelines for Respecting
Religious Diversity” (the “Guidelines”) “commit to making feasible and reasonable
accommodations for [religious] beliefs and practices.” See Ex. A at 1.
97. The School Board’s Guidelines promise:
a. “to accommodate requests from students, or requests from
parents/guardians on behalf of their students, to be excused from
specific classroom discussions or activities that they believe would
impose a substantial burden on their religious beliefs,” id. at 3;
b. to allow students “to be excused from the classroom activity if the
students, or their parents/guardians, believe the activity would invade
student privacy by calling attention to the student’s religion,” id. at 3-4;
and
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c. to “accommodate objections from students or their parents/guardians
to a particular reading assignment on religious grounds by providing an
alternative selection that meets the same lesson objectives,” id. at 4.
98. The Guidelines also ensure other religious accommodations for MCPS
students.

I can't wait to find out what other parts of the curriculum impose a substantial burden on parents' religious beliefs.

I'm sure they'll find something to complain about.

[Anonymous]

Reminds me when they read This Day In June to the class and the illustrations of the NYC gay pride parade- leather chaps, beards and tutus, everyone kissing.

Looked like one big costume party; we can’t wait to go!