Companies are on the war path against remote work

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

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Anonymous wrote:My job which went 100 percent RTO has one blessing almost no meetings.

With everyone in I can just pop my head into HR, Accounting, IT get question answered in two seconds. Or I can shoot email and say swing by when free for a minute.

I had hybrid pre Covid and every meeting who is in office, set up zoom, book ahead of time, check calendars. We also had Flex Time so even if in some started early left early and some started late and left late.

It does suck commuting five days a week but office runs so much smoother. But I do notice new hires live much closer to work. Yes imagine that!! If you say 100 percent in person with set work hours people live close to office. All at once commute less of issue. It does greatly lower hiring pool and harder HR.

Nothing is perfect

You're bugging the sh1t out of people.

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Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

No they don't. That's just something micromanaging boomers in worthless middle management positions say without any evidence to support their claims.

Younger workers have also never done commutes for 10-20 years yet and don't have kids. Let's hear their opinions when they get closer to 40 and have wasted thousands of hours of their lives sitting in traffic or taking public transportation just to get to work.

My 22 year old daughter moved to Boston by her office for her job. They promised RTO but boomers keep pushing it back. She plans on quitting next year if no RT0. How can she learn sitting in her tiny rental by herself?

What is her problem?! Sounds like she’s making a boatload of money and gets to WFH, so if I were her I’d be joining as many clubs/groups as possible (running groups, biking groups, volunteering, outdoor excursions, art classes, yoga classes). I would be exploring the entire metro area on foot & taking Amtrak rides & flights to random places. So many museums & monuments to see too. So many colleges & universities that put on plays, dance shows & music performances. She should be working in public places like coffee shops, libraries & parks sometimes, not being at home alone everyday. Summer New England weather is coming & is awesome.

Seriously, it sounds like your DD is living the dream. Please tell her to heed some of the suggestions above. She has an amazing opportunity!

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Anonymous wrote:Young employees (new grads) hate WFH.

No they don't. That's just something micromanaging boomers in worthless middle management positions say without any evidence to support their claims.

Younger workers have also never done commutes for 10-20 years yet and don't have kids. Let's hear their opinions when they get closer to 40 and have wasted thousands of hours of their lives sitting in traffic or taking public transportation just to get to work.

This a thousand times.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. This has gone off the rails lol.

I think my point was to talk about the recent and sudden shift away from remote work.

My spouse and I were previously fully remote and things have really changed just in the last couple of weeks. We are both looking for new jobs and the remote listings have evaporated.

I was wanting to discuss recent developments on this front and what people are noticing.

What you’re noticing is a softening in the job market. Employers are taking advantage of their increased power and forcing people back to the office. Companies have invested in office space, they believe people are more productive when they work together, and they have noticed that new to workforce employees are struggling with WFH. They aren’t learning as fast and they aren’t staying as long.

No way. There is a skilled labor shortage that is very obvious.

You must not read the newspaper, this is exactly where layoffs are occurring. There is a shortage of less skilled workers, people to work in hospitality, etc . . .

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

Even if they are running errands during the day (which you have provided absolutely zero evidence of and in fact studies show the exact opposite - that remote workers are MORE productive) they're just replacing trips they would have made anyway on off hours or weekends. It's no better or worse for the environment, it's just shifting the times of existing trips.

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

Even if they are running errands during the day (which you have provided absolutely zero evidence of and in fact studies show the exact opposite - that remote workers are MORE productive) they're just replacing trips they would have made anyway on off hours or weekends. It's no better or worse for the environment, it's just shifting the times of existing trips.

I’m a sah and yes, I see people who allegedly are working from home at these places during the work day all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

Even if they are running errands during the day (which you have provided absolutely zero evidence of and in fact studies show the exact opposite - that remote workers are MORE productive) they're just replacing trips they would have made anyway on off hours or weekends. It's no better or worse for the environment, it's just shifting the times of existing trips.

I’m a sah and yes, I see people who allegedly are working from home at these places during the work day all the time.

Sounds like you’re jealous you quit your job and now realize maybe you didn’t need to.

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Being in Boston as an unattached, childless, energetic 22 year old who can afford to live alone sounds amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

Even if they are running errands during the day (which you have provided absolutely zero evidence of and in fact studies show the exact opposite - that remote workers are MORE productive) they're just replacing trips they would have made anyway on off hours or weekends. It's no better or worse for the environment, it's just shifting the times of existing trips.

I’m a sah and yes, I see people who allegedly are working from home at these places during the work day all the time.

Sounds like you’re jealous you quit your job and now realize maybe you didn’t need to.

I mean, if your saying you now live the life of a sah, I think you’ve proved the point that full time wfh is not productive for the company.

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

Even if they are running errands during the day (which you have provided absolutely zero evidence of and in fact studies show the exact opposite - that remote workers are MORE productive) they're just replacing trips they would have made anyway on off hours or weekends. It's no better or worse for the environment, it's just shifting the times of existing trips.

I’m a sah and yes, I see people who allegedly are working from home at these places during the work day all the time.

Sounds like you’re jealous you quit your job and now realize maybe you didn’t need to.

I mean, if your saying you now live the life of a sah, I think you’ve proved the point that full time wfh is not productive for the company.

You know what I meant. That the work place is way more flexible. Now you don’t need to eat in a cube for your 45 minute break. Instead you can run to the grocery store.

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Anonymous wrote:Commutes for work are terrible for the environment. Gee let's all make people consume massive amounts of fossil fuels and waste millions of hours per year to sit in traffic or take public transportation just so they can sit in office and do jobs that we have already shown can be done remotely.

What is the point of wasting so much fossil fuels and polluting the environment so much just so we can keep 20th century office culture alive?

Humans are really dumb. Too bad you wasted money on commercial real estate or decorating the office. There are risks in life, companies should get used to it.

You know what else is bad for the environment . All those wfh employees driving to Target, Starbucks and the gym during their work day.

Even if they are running errands during the day (which you have provided absolutely zero evidence of and in fact studies show the exact opposite - that remote workers are MORE productive) they're just replacing trips they would have made anyway on off hours or weekends. It's no better or worse for the environment, it's just shifting the times of existing trips.

I’m a sah and yes, I see people who allegedly are working from home at these places during the work day all the time.

Sounds like you’re jealous you quit your job and now realize maybe you didn’t need to.

I mean, if your saying you now live the life of a sah, I think you’ve proved the point that full time wfh is not productive for the company.

You know what I meant. That the work place is way more flexible. Now you don’t need to eat in a cube for your 45 minute break. Instead you can run to the grocery store.

Exactly, which is why there are more cars on the road mid day in the suburbs

[Anonymous]

Yay for RTO just to have Teams meetings all day!

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Dear Lord are there people who actually believe that someone shopping at Target at 2 pm is not capable of being supremely productive for their company? How antiquated.

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Anonymous wrote:Being in Boston as an unattached, childless, energetic 22 year old who can afford to live alone sounds amazing.

In a tiny run down walk up apartment. She also could live at home for free.

My own company headquartered in NYC the class of 2020, 2021,2022 and now 2023 all live near the office as they assumed wrongly we be opening up soon.