62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted on Nextdoor that a woman was knocked to the ground and had her purse stolen at 11 am at the giant on ew highway. Nice to see silver spring continuing its descent into third world country status.

DCUMers would say she should feel lucky they didn’t hurt her. It is the price to pay to live in a vibrant city. More police will only hurt the minorities.

“More police” won’t protect you. The guy who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the gas station check lived in a building where you can see the police station. That’s certainly “more police” than would be mustered to DTSS and yet it didn’t stop him from murdering his pregnant gf at home or the gas station clerk nearby. “More police” just makes (White) people feel safer when they are around Black and Brown people. No evidence that it keeps law-abiding people of color safer.

The connection between police presence, and more intensive policing, and lower crime is one of the most well established in criminology. There is no question that proactive policing can and does reduce crime. We trashed policing in 2020 and saw an immediate 30% spike in murders.

Policing does come with costs to the communities policed. Maybe those costs are in your view too great so the effect on crime is not worth it. But don’t say that policing can’t reduce crime because it can.

It’s actually the opposite.

Watch “the 13th” or read about the disaster of “3 strikes you are out”. Heavy policing has destroyed communities.

Heavy policing reduces crime. “The 13th” and the “3 strikes” issue are about the impact of having too many black people in prison. I suppose there could be room for debate that people should not be put in prison for certain crimes. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a strong police presence to catch people who commit the crimes, such as the murder that this thread is focused on. You’re conflating two separate issues: whether we should catch criminals (the answer is yes) and what we should do with them once caught (perhaps debatable for certain crimes, but in my opinion, not debatable for murder).

If people commit violent crime or serious property crime the first priority is to get them off the streets to reduce harm to everyone else. Second priority is to try and rehabilitate them to try and get them safely back into communities.

And above all, there's a culture problem of violence and anti-social behavior that needs to be addressed. I grew up dirt poor too and admit I took some things out of desperation to feed myself but I didn't go around carjacking and committing armed robbery and violent crime. We need to stop making excuses for those crimes. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

But they aren’t committing serious crimes and they are still put in jail… if they are black.

You clearly did not watch the 13th or read studies about why 3 strikes and mandatory minimums created more crime not less.

Hey the data doesn’t lie, right markie mark.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted on Nextdoor that a woman was knocked to the ground and had her purse stolen at 11 am at the giant on ew highway. Nice to see silver spring continuing its descent into third world country status.

DCUMers would say she should feel lucky they didn’t hurt her. It is the price to pay to live in a vibrant city. More police will only hurt the minorities.

“More police” won’t protect you. The guy who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the gas station check lived in a building where you can see the police station. That’s certainly “more police” than would be mustered to DTSS and yet it didn’t stop him from murdering his pregnant gf at home or the gas station clerk nearby. “More police” just makes (White) people feel safer when they are around Black and Brown people. No evidence that it keeps law-abiding people of color safer.

The connection between police presence, and more intensive policing, and lower crime is one of the most well established in criminology. There is no question that proactive policing can and does reduce crime. We trashed policing in 2020 and saw an immediate 30% spike in murders.

Policing does come with costs to the communities policed. Maybe those costs are in your view too great so the effect on crime is not worth it. But don’t say that policing can’t reduce crime because it can.

It’s actually the opposite.

Watch “the 13th” or read about the disaster of “3 strikes you are out”. Heavy policing has destroyed communities.

Heavy policing reduces crime. “The 13th” and the “3 strikes” issue are about the impact of having too many black people in prison. I suppose there could be room for debate that people should not be put in prison for certain crimes. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a strong police presence to catch people who commit the crimes, such as the murder that this thread is focused on. You’re conflating two separate issues: whether we should catch criminals (the answer is yes) and what we should do with them once caught (perhaps debatable for certain crimes, but in my opinion, not debatable for murder).

If people commit violent crime or serious property crime the first priority is to get them off the streets to reduce harm to everyone else. Second priority is to try and rehabilitate them to try and get them safely back into communities.

And above all, there's a culture problem of violence and anti-social behavior that needs to be addressed. I grew up dirt poor too and admit I took some things out of desperation to feed myself but I didn't go around carjacking and committing armed robbery and violent crime. We need to stop making excuses for those crimes. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

But they aren’t committing serious crimes and they are still put in jail… if they are black.

You clearly did not watch the 13th or read studies about why 3 strikes and mandatory minimums created more crime not less.

Hey the data doesn’t lie, right markie mark.

Not happening in Montgomery County. There are 18,000 separate police departments, governed by 50 different states' laws, and myriad more local laws.

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They just had a drug overdose in the same garage… in daylight on a Sunday.

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Anonymous wrote:They just had a drug overdose in the same garage… in daylight on a Sunday.

Just came across the following news story when looking for info about that drug overdose:

https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-silver-spring-maryland-charles-reynolds-gun-violence-police

It appears county politicians are reversing course and now ware considering a new, fully-staffed district. I was wondering what would happen to the task force’s 50% reduction in force recommendation.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted on Nextdoor that a woman was knocked to the ground and had her purse stolen at 11 am at the giant on ew highway. Nice to see silver spring continuing its descent into third world country status.

DCUMers would say she should feel lucky they didn’t hurt her. It is the price to pay to live in a vibrant city. More police will only hurt the minorities.

“More police” won’t protect you. The guy who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the gas station check lived in a building where you can see the police station. That’s certainly “more police” than would be mustered to DTSS and yet it didn’t stop him from murdering his pregnant gf at home or the gas station clerk nearby. “More police” just makes (White) people feel safer when they are around Black and Brown people. No evidence that it keeps law-abiding people of color safer.

The connection between police presence, and more intensive policing, and lower crime is one of the most well established in criminology. There is no question that proactive policing can and does reduce crime. We trashed policing in 2020 and saw an immediate 30% spike in murders.

Policing does come with costs to the communities policed. Maybe those costs are in your view too great so the effect on crime is not worth it. But don’t say that policing can’t reduce crime because it can.

It’s actually the opposite.

Watch “the 13th” or read about the disaster of “3 strikes you are out”. Heavy policing has destroyed communities.

Heavy policing reduces crime. “The 13th” and the “3 strikes” issue are about the impact of having too many black people in prison. I suppose there could be room for debate that people should not be put in prison for certain crimes. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a strong police presence to catch people who commit the crimes, such as the murder that this thread is focused on. You’re conflating two separate issues: whether we should catch criminals (the answer is yes) and what we should do with them once caught (perhaps debatable for certain crimes, but in my opinion, not debatable for murder).

If people commit violent crime or serious property crime the first priority is to get them off the streets to reduce harm to everyone else. Second priority is to try and rehabilitate them to try and get them safely back into communities.

And above all, there's a culture problem of violence and anti-social behavior that needs to be addressed. I grew up dirt poor too and admit I took some things out of desperation to feed myself but I didn't go around carjacking and committing armed robbery and violent crime. We need to stop making excuses for those crimes. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

But they aren’t committing serious crimes and they are still put in jail… if they are black.

You clearly did not watch the 13th or read studies about why 3 strikes and mandatory minimums created more crime not less.

Hey the data doesn’t lie, right markie mark.

Not happening in Montgomery County. There are 18,000 separate police departments, governed by 50 different states' laws, and myriad more local laws.

It does happen in moco it’s no different.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted on Nextdoor that a woman was knocked to the ground and had her purse stolen at 11 am at the giant on ew highway. Nice to see silver spring continuing its descent into third world country status.

DCUMers would say she should feel lucky they didn’t hurt her. It is the price to pay to live in a vibrant city. More police will only hurt the minorities.

“More police” won’t protect you. The guy who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the gas station check lived in a building where you can see the police station. That’s certainly “more police” than would be mustered to DTSS and yet it didn’t stop him from murdering his pregnant gf at home or the gas station clerk nearby. “More police” just makes (White) people feel safer when they are around Black and Brown people. No evidence that it keeps law-abiding people of color safer.

The connection between police presence, and more intensive policing, and lower crime is one of the most well established in criminology. There is no question that proactive policing can and does reduce crime. We trashed policing in 2020 and saw an immediate 30% spike in murders.

Policing does come with costs to the communities policed. Maybe those costs are in your view too great so the effect on crime is not worth it. But don’t say that policing can’t reduce crime because it can.

It’s actually the opposite.

Watch “the 13th” or read about the disaster of “3 strikes you are out”. Heavy policing has destroyed communities.

Heavy policing reduces crime. “The 13th” and the “3 strikes” issue are about the impact of having too many black people in prison. I suppose there could be room for debate that people should not be put in prison for certain crimes. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a strong police presence to catch people who commit the crimes, such as the murder that this thread is focused on. You’re conflating two separate issues: whether we should catch criminals (the answer is yes) and what we should do with them once caught (perhaps debatable for certain crimes, but in my opinion, not debatable for murder).

If people commit violent crime or serious property crime the first priority is to get them off the streets to reduce harm to everyone else. Second priority is to try and rehabilitate them to try and get them safely back into communities.

And above all, there's a culture problem of violence and anti-social behavior that needs to be addressed. I grew up dirt poor too and admit I took some things out of desperation to feed myself but I didn't go around carjacking and committing armed robbery and violent crime. We need to stop making excuses for those crimes. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

But they aren’t committing serious crimes and they are still put in jail… if they are black.

You clearly did not watch the 13th or read studies about why 3 strikes and mandatory minimums created more crime not less.

Hey the data doesn’t lie, right markie mark.

nope. The majority of criminals in moco go to the jail to see the commissioner who sets a court date. Then they go to court ( if they show up) and the case gets nolle prossed. The laws need to change, so many people out on the street who shouldn’t be. It’s not the Police depts fault. They put the work in, then it goes nowhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted on Nextdoor that a woman was knocked to the ground and had her purse stolen at 11 am at the giant on ew highway. Nice to see silver spring continuing its descent into third world country status.

DCUMers would say she should feel lucky they didn’t hurt her. It is the price to pay to live in a vibrant city. More police will only hurt the minorities.

“More police” won’t protect you. The guy who killed his pregnant girlfriend and the gas station check lived in a building where you can see the police station. That’s certainly “more police” than would be mustered to DTSS and yet it didn’t stop him from murdering his pregnant gf at home or the gas station clerk nearby. “More police” just makes (White) people feel safer when they are around Black and Brown people. No evidence that it keeps law-abiding people of color safer.

The connection between police presence, and more intensive policing, and lower crime is one of the most well established in criminology. There is no question that proactive policing can and does reduce crime. We trashed policing in 2020 and saw an immediate 30% spike in murders.

Policing does come with costs to the communities policed. Maybe those costs are in your view too great so the effect on crime is not worth it. But don’t say that policing can’t reduce crime because it can.

It’s actually the opposite.

Watch “the 13th” or read about the disaster of “3 strikes you are out”. Heavy policing has destroyed communities.

Heavy policing reduces crime. “The 13th” and the “3 strikes” issue are about the impact of having too many black people in prison. I suppose there could be room for debate that people should not be put in prison for certain crimes. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a strong police presence to catch people who commit the crimes, such as the murder that this thread is focused on. You’re conflating two separate issues: whether we should catch criminals (the answer is yes) and what we should do with them once caught (perhaps debatable for certain crimes, but in my opinion, not debatable for murder).

If people commit violent crime or serious property crime the first priority is to get them off the streets to reduce harm to everyone else. Second priority is to try and rehabilitate them to try and get them safely back into communities.

And above all, there's a culture problem of violence and anti-social behavior that needs to be addressed. I grew up dirt poor too and admit I took some things out of desperation to feed myself but I didn't go around carjacking and committing armed robbery and violent crime. We need to stop making excuses for those crimes. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

But they aren’t committing serious crimes and they are still put in jail… if they are black.

You clearly did not watch the 13th or read studies about why 3 strikes and mandatory minimums created more crime not less.

Hey the data doesn’t lie, right markie mark.

Not happening in Montgomery County. There are 18,000 separate police departments, governed by 50 different states' laws, and myriad more local laws.

It does happen in moco it’s no different.

Mandatory minimums, 3 strike rules, etc. are controlled by the state legislature and enforced by the courts. This isn’t relevant to the conversation in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:They just had a drug overdose in the same garage… in daylight on a Sunday.

Just came across the following news story when looking for info about that drug overdose:

https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-silver-spring-maryland-charles-reynolds-gun-violence-police

It appears county politicians are reversing course and now ware considering a new, fully-staffed district. I was wondering what would happen to the task force’s 50% reduction in force recommendation.

drug overdoses and non violent crime rarely makes the news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They just had a drug overdose in the same garage… in daylight on a Sunday.

Just came across the following news story when looking for info about that drug overdose:

https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-silver-spring-maryland-charles-reynolds-gun-violence-police

It appears county politicians are reversing course and now ware considering a new, fully-staffed district. I was wondering what would happen to the task force’s 50% reduction in force recommendation.

I'm a resident of DTSS and generally pretty poorly inclined toward law enforcement culture as it exists nationwide, but closing the precinct in Silver Spring was pretty clearly a mistake. There has been an untick in violent crime, including in broad daylight, over the past year and it is absolutely impacting the quality of life of the community. Small businesses, including a lot of BIPOC-owned shops and restaurants, as well as residents, have begun talking about what can be done and there's a clear consensus toward greater policing.

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DTSS is not a safe place to live or spend time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DTSS is not a safe place to live or spend time.

Second shooting today, plus a carjacking. Fun times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DTSS is not a safe place to live or spend time.

Summit Hills is hardly downtown.

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Isn't that the 2nd shooting at Summit Hills in the past couple of months?

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Anonymous wrote:DTSS is not a safe place to live or spend time.

Summit Hills is hardly downtown.

When the shooter is fleeing toward the metro, it’s very much a downtown problem.

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Anonymous wrote:DTSS is not a safe place to live or spend time.

Summit Hills is hardly downtown.

When the shooter is fleeing toward the metro, it’s very much a downtown problem.

Absolutely. But also, the idea that an apartment literally across the street from DTSS is not DTSS is crazy nitpicking.