“Rick” summer reading

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are state laws that require informing parents of the content of sexual materials and allowing parents the right to opt their kids out of these types of discussions. As a matter of the law. The Supreme Court also recognizes the rights of parents, you know that Court that created the right for gay marriage? Although pushing this agenda for kids I can 100% assure you will result in that right being overturned like Roe v Wade and left to the states. Keep pushing on kids this is what you will achieve. The Florida Gov sees how effective this is and is taking it National guaranteed.

I know parents should have the final say as to what their children learn in school. For example, say some parents don't want their children to learn about the civil war or ww2; well, they should be allowed to opt out of learning about the real world, right? Public education should be ala carte. Each week kids' parents would have to approve which topics their children can study, like addition or spelling. Kidding aside, if some parents don't like it, they are free to send their kids to some fundamentalist madrassas school or whatever it is they're into, but schools should teach objective reality and not some whitewashed fiction born out of religious bigotry.

We're not talking about objective reality. Clearly. You do the left a disservice by using these simple-minded arguments.

What do you mean by the bold? Are you saying that some aspects of sexuality promoted by the LGBTQIA community are not “objective reality”? If so, which parts? If not, what do you mean by your statement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are state laws that require informing parents of the content of sexual materials and allowing parents the right to opt their kids out of these types of discussions. As a matter of the law. The Supreme Court also recognizes the rights of parents, you know that Court that created the right for gay marriage? Although pushing this agenda for kids I can 100% assure you will result in that right being overturned like Roe v Wade and left to the states. Keep pushing on kids this is what you will achieve. The Florida Gov sees how effective this is and is taking it National guaranteed.

I know parents should have the final say as to what their children learn in school. For example, say some parents don't want their children to learn about the civil war or ww2; well, they should be allowed to opt out of learning about the real world, right? Public education should be ala carte. Each week kids' parents would have to approve which topics their children can study, like addition or spelling. Kidding aside, if some parents don't like it, they are free to send their kids to some fundamentalist madrassas school or whatever it is they're into, but schools should teach objective reality and not some whitewashed fiction born out of religious bigotry.

We're not talking about objective reality. Clearly. You do the left a disservice by using these simple-minded arguments.

What do you mean by the bold? Are you saying that some aspects of sexuality promoted by the LGBTQIA community are not “objective reality”? If so, which parts? If not, what do you mean by your statement?

Wrong thread. This is about a 6th grade summer reading assignment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are state laws that require informing parents of the content of sexual materials and allowing parents the right to opt their kids out of these types of discussions. As a matter of the law. The Supreme Court also recognizes the rights of parents, you know that Court that created the right for gay marriage? Although pushing this agenda for kids I can 100% assure you will result in that right being overturned like Roe v Wade and left to the states. Keep pushing on kids this is what you will achieve. The Florida Gov sees how effective this is and is taking it National guaranteed.

You're not even informed enough to have a voice that carries any weight in this discussion. This story has nothing to do with anything sexual. It's about a kid who is confused about his place in the world and he's starting to figure it out. Much like most middle schoolers are whether they are gay, straight, binary, non-binary. It's just telling the same tale as old as time in a way that shows kids acceptance and empathy for the LGBTQ2S+ community.

What is 2S?

Why is it no one on DCUM can answer their own questions? A two second Google search provides you with the answer. Probably took shorter for me to look up than it did for you to post. But I'm sure the point of your post was to be snarky that they've added more to the acronym. It stands lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, and two-spirit. Do your own homework next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.

Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)

When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.

It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who think this is too young for books that discuss sexuality -- what books (specifically) do you want on the reading list? I'm really struggling to think of 6th-grade-ish books that don't involve some references to romance/dating.

We better make sure to ban the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew, because the characters date in those books!

I really don't want my children to read any books where there are heterosexual relationships because they might be groomed into heterosexuality.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting is it this entire debate I don't think more than one of the posters has actually read the book that it should be one of the rules if you're going to ban a book or forbid your child for reading it you have to read the entire thing first so you can actually discuss the plot instead of being hysterical about a book you haven't read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.

Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.

+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.

I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.

Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)

When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.

It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.

That's because MCPS started talking about them in ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.

Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)

When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.

It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.

That's because MCPS started talking about them in ES.

Talking about who? Talking about what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.

Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)

When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.

It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.

That's because MCPS started talking about them in ES.

Talking about who? Talking about what?

MCPS starts introducing kids to the idea of being non-binary or trans in ES. There are boos available in the library and the librarians will sometimes choose these LGBQT-friendly books to read to the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are state laws that require informing parents of the content of sexual materials and allowing parents the right to opt their kids out of these types of discussions. As a matter of the law. The Supreme Court also recognizes the rights of parents, you know that Court that created the right for gay marriage? Although pushing this agenda for kids I can 100% assure you will result in that right being overturned like Roe v Wade and left to the states. Keep pushing on kids this is what you will achieve. The Florida Gov sees how effective this is and is taking it National guaranteed.

You're not even informed enough to have a voice that carries any weight in this discussion. This story has nothing to do with anything sexual. It's about a kid who is confused about his place in the world and he's starting to figure it out. Much like most middle schoolers are whether they are gay, straight, binary, non-binary. It's just telling the same tale as old as time in a way that shows kids acceptance and empathy for the LGBTQ2S+ community.

What is 2S?

Why is it no one on DCUM can answer their own questions? A two second Google search provides you with the answer. Probably took shorter for me to look up than it did for you to post. But I'm sure the point of your post was to be snarky that they've added more to the acronym. It stands lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, and two-spirit. Do your own homework next time.

Nah. If you are going to post a term that might not be well-known, you should explain it.

What is ‘two-spirit’?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.

Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.

+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.

I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...

Or the Koran. Or maybe the Kama Sutra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting is it this entire debate I don't think more than one of the posters has actually read the book that it should be one of the rules if you're going to ban a book or forbid your child for reading it you have to read the entire thing first so you can actually discuss the plot instead of being hysterical about a book you haven't read.

Wait! You mean I have to read a book before I start trashing it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the LGBTQ poster. I don’t care about your sexuality but my kid doesn’t need to explore their sexuality in public school through assigned reading and adult intervention. The fact you jump to a nasty term like “bigotry” makes me think you’re the one who needs to learn about the rights of others and respecting others. My kids can respect others but at the end of the day it is not the role of public schools to teach that, that is my role as a parent.

Newsflash: your kids already know. Wake up.

+1. You want other people to hide or be quiet about their sexuality or gender identity. You do not want to allow schools to recognize their lives in the same
way that the lives of straight people are represented - through stories. That is bigotry. You have a right to believe what you want but you don’t have a right to insist that other people’s voices, identities and presentation be silenced. It is the role of public schools to teach about the world we live in and LGBTQIA people are a full and equal part of that world.

I'll wait patiently for the novel that encourages kids to explore Christianity...

If we’re going to define a book that mentions something as “encouraging kids to explore” that thing, then MCPS has a ton of books that encourage kids to explore Christianity. Certainly anything that mentions Pilgrims, or founding father or the Civil Rights movement, or a character celebrating Christmas would count.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty disturbing grown adults feel a need for 11 year olds to be educated on their sexuality. Leave the kids alone.

Apparently you were never in middle school. Kids are aware. Hormones are everywhere. You can smell in the halls. (Or was that just more Axe?)

When I was 11, I was entering 6th grade, my last year of elementary school. Middle school was a world away. These kids are still 11 and prepubescent, even though we push them into middle school with kids who already smell like hormones and Axe.

It was in direct response to your comment. You were replying to the fact that kids are already aware of the issues in this book. You're trying to say 11 year olds are prepubescent and pushed in with middle school kids too soon, implying a book like this is too soon for them. Also, the world has changed since you were 11. Try and keep up.

That's because MCPS started talking about them in ES.

Talking about who? Talking about what?

MCPS starts introducing kids to the idea of being non-binary or trans in ES. There are boos available in the library and the librarians will sometimes choose these LGBQT-friendly books to read to the kids.

You’re delusional if you don’t think they know this without any help from mcps or a book. Join the rest of us in the real world.