FCPS CRT or nah?

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on food stamps, donated clothes, and remember only getting name brand foods when the Lions Club gave us groceries during the holidays. Half the items on that bingo card applied to my childhood. But because I'm white I'm privileged? Maybe I can claim being racially profiled now too.

This crap right here is how republicans still win anything.

It’s not all or nothing. Most people experience a mix of different factors. I had probably 2/3rd of the boxes.

It’s also not saying that privilege is universally true. No one has said all white people have it super easy.

In general, it’s easier to be white.
In general, it’s easier to be rich.
In general, it’s easier to be able-bodied.

That’s what “privilege” is.

And no one EVER knew the bolded before people wrote articles and books and fcps paid for bingo games to teach that, so they’ve really got bragging rights for educational effectiveness here.

If you have taken the time to read through the thread, there are a lot of people who do not know the bolded.

Nonsense. No one believes life in a wheelchair etc wouldn’t be harder.

What people are rejecting is the dismissive hand waving that implies life is was and always will be easy because they aren’t missing a hand, are white and grew up with regular meals and maybe a yearly vacation.

Just because you aren't able to think critically doesn't mean that we can discount these lessons. Nobody has said that life is automatically perfect. It's saying (again, in GENERAL) you have a head start if you grow up white in America. There will always be outliers, there will always be individuals for whom this isn't true, but in general it is true that life will be a lot easier for you if you are a white person.
Some of you are so afraid of opening your eyes, I'm so glad this is being taught in schools bc this thread has shown that parents would be teaching an ugly lesson in shame and martyrdom

Head start over whom?

In terms of education, income/wealth, prison sentencing, health outcomes, 2 parent marriages etc, whites don't have a head start. Other groups do better.

Just because one group “does better” doesn’t mean that whites still don’t have a “head start” compared to others. It’s a spectrum.

I disagree, if groups that have largely been here for 1-3 generations outcompete the two demographic groups that have been here since the founding of the nation, and the newcomers, lack the "privilege" of having cultural/linguistic familiarities then the entire premise of a head start as a whole is flawed.

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Anonymous wrote: What are biracial kids going to do? Are we white now? Do we check the box?

That depends.

What’s the texture of your hair?

Skin tone?

Can you pass?

Parents still married?

Accepted by white grandparents?

Is there inheritance?

Is your dad the white one?

Do you have his last name?


Of course, if your biracial ness is white/Asian you don’t have to answer any previous questions. Asians are “white adjacent” now so being both just makes you white and therefore privileged and you ought to be ashamed.

This is the biggest piece of the anti - CRT playbook. Telling people that CRT exists to shame people. You were so close to getting it right that it is about acknowledging privilege. Nobody is asking white people to feel shame, but to simply acknowledge that it is GENERALLY easier to live life as a white person in America, and then shares evidence of why that is.

You, on the other hand, should probably be ashamed of your simplistic dismissal of an important topic.

Why? Why is this important? What purpose does doing this have?
And, is this something that should be done in an English class when we have a pretty miserable record of achievement when compared to other countries?

We don’t know the details of the assignment. Only this one page.

The assignment could have been asking students to examine their own perspective before reading or discussing characters in a book. Maybe the book had characters in the military.

If this were the case, FCPS would have clarified and explained why this activity was beneficial. They didn't.
That tells me that this was a pathetic attempt at focusing on characteristics of people that, for the most part, they have no choice in.
Examining one's perspective can be done in much better ways then this lame attempt. An open ended question about one's perspective is so much more enriching and employs a ton more critical thinking than the crap on this sheet, that, BTW - makes HUGE assumptions.

Or FCPS realizes that the mob isn’t rational and it’s better just to cut losses.

Anyone at Oakton who can pull up the instructions?

You are making assumptions about how this sheet was intended to be used.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on food stamps, donated clothes, and remember only getting name brand foods when the Lions Club gave us groceries during the holidays. Half the items on that bingo card applied to my childhood. But because I'm white I'm privileged? Maybe I can claim being racially profiled now too.

This crap right here is how republicans still win anything.

It’s not all or nothing. Most people experience a mix of different factors. I had probably 2/3rd of the boxes.

It’s also not saying that privilege is universally true. No one has said all white people have it super easy.

In general, it’s easier to be white.
In general, it’s easier to be rich.
In general, it’s easier to be able-bodied.

That’s what “privilege” is.

And no one EVER knew the bolded before people wrote articles and books and fcps paid for bingo games to teach that, so they’ve really got bragging rights for educational effectiveness here.

If you have taken the time to read through the thread, there are a lot of people who do not know the bolded.

Nonsense. No one believes life in a wheelchair etc wouldn’t be harder.

What people are rejecting is the dismissive hand waving that implies life is was and always will be easy because they aren’t missing a hand, are white and grew up with regular meals and maybe a yearly vacation.

Just because you aren't able to think critically doesn't mean that we can discount these lessons. Nobody has said that life is automatically perfect. It's saying (again, in GENERAL) you have a head start if you grow up white in America. There will always be outliers, there will always be individuals for whom this isn't true, but in general it is true that life will be a lot easier for you if you are a white person.
Some of you are so afraid of opening your eyes, I'm so glad this is being taught in schools bc this thread has shown that parents would be teaching an ugly lesson in shame and martyrdom

Head start over whom?

In terms of education, income/wealth, prison sentencing, health outcomes, 2 parent marriages etc, whites don't have a head start. Other groups do better.

Just because one group “does better” doesn’t mean that whites still don’t have a “head start” compared to others. It’s a spectrum.

I disagree, if groups that have largely been here for 1-3 generations outcompete the two demographic groups that have been here since the founding of the nation, and the newcomers, lack the "privilege" of having cultural/linguistic familiarities then the entire premise of a head start as a whole is flawed.

Or … it’s complex and there are many factors that can lead to disparate outcomes.

Immigrants are a self-selecting group so not surprising they would do well.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on food stamps, donated clothes, and remember only getting name brand foods when the Lions Club gave us groceries during the holidays. Half the items on that bingo card applied to my childhood. But because I'm white I'm privileged? Maybe I can claim being racially profiled now too.

This crap right here is how republicans still win anything.

It’s not all or nothing. Most people experience a mix of different factors. I had probably 2/3rd of the boxes.

It’s also not saying that privilege is universally true. No one has said all white people have it super easy.

In general, it’s easier to be white.
In general, it’s easier to be rich.
In general, it’s easier to be able-bodied.

That’s what “privilege” is.

And no one EVER knew the bolded before people wrote articles and books and fcps paid for bingo games to teach that, so they’ve really got bragging rights for educational effectiveness here.

If you have taken the time to read through the thread, there are a lot of people who do not know the bolded.

Nonsense. No one believes life in a wheelchair etc wouldn’t be harder.

What people are rejecting is the dismissive hand waving that implies life is was and always will be easy because they aren’t missing a hand, are white and grew up with regular meals and maybe a yearly vacation.

Just because you aren't able to think critically doesn't mean that we can discount these lessons. Nobody has said that life is automatically perfect. It's saying (again, in GENERAL) you have a head start if you grow up white in America. There will always be outliers, there will always be individuals for whom this isn't true, but in general it is true that life will be a lot easier for you if you are a white person.
Some of you are so afraid of opening your eyes, I'm so glad this is being taught in schools bc this thread has shown that parents would be teaching an ugly lesson in shame and martyrdom

Head start over whom?

In terms of education, income/wealth, prison sentencing, health outcomes, 2 parent marriages etc, whites don't have a head start. Other groups do better.

Just because one group “does better” doesn’t mean that whites still don’t have a “head start” compared to others. It’s a spectrum.

I disagree, if groups that have largely been here for 1-3 generations outcompete the two demographic groups that have been here since the founding of the nation, and the newcomers, lack the "privilege" of having cultural/linguistic familiarities then the entire premise of a head start as a whole is flawed.

Or … it’s complex and there are many factors that can lead to disparate outcomes.

Immigrants are a self-selecting group so not surprising they would do well.

Parenting and personal responsibility go a long way.

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If we are discussing privilege in the U.S. that doesn’t matter.

Why so many poc flee their countries of origin to seek better lives in Western countries designed by white people (especially since we all know how evil and racist white people are) is a separate discussion. Interesting, but separate.

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Anonymous wrote:If we are discussing privilege in the U.S. that doesn’t matter.

Why so many poc flee their countries of origin to seek better lives in Western countries designed by white people (especially since we all know how evil and racist white people are) is a separate discussion. Interesting, but separate.

This was a response to 11:04

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on food stamps, donated clothes, and remember only getting name brand foods when the Lions Club gave us groceries during the holidays. Half the items on that bingo card applied to my childhood. But because I'm white I'm privileged? Maybe I can claim being racially profiled now too.

This crap right here is how republicans still win anything.

It’s not all or nothing. Most people experience a mix of different factors. I had probably 2/3rd of the boxes.

It’s also not saying that privilege is universally true. No one has said all white people have it super easy.

In general, it’s easier to be white.
In general, it’s easier to be rich.
In general, it’s easier to be able-bodied.

That’s what “privilege” is.

And no one EVER knew the bolded before people wrote articles and books and fcps paid for bingo games to teach that, so they’ve really got bragging rights for educational effectiveness here.

If you have taken the time to read through the thread, there are a lot of people who do not know the bolded.

Nonsense. No one believes life in a wheelchair etc wouldn’t be harder.

What people are rejecting is the dismissive hand waving that implies life is was and always will be easy because they aren’t missing a hand, are white and grew up with regular meals and maybe a yearly vacation.

Just because you aren't able to think critically doesn't mean that we can discount these lessons. Nobody has said that life is automatically perfect. It's saying (again, in GENERAL) you have a head start if you grow up white in America. There will always be outliers, there will always be individuals for whom this isn't true, but in general it is true that life will be a lot easier for you if you are a white person.
Some of you are so afraid of opening your eyes, I'm so glad this is being taught in schools bc this thread has shown that parents would be teaching an ugly lesson in shame and martyrdom

Head start over whom?

In terms of education, income/wealth, prison sentencing, health outcomes, 2 parent marriages etc, whites don't have a head start. Other groups do better.

Just because one group “does better” doesn’t mean that whites still don’t have a “head start” compared to others. It’s a spectrum.

I disagree, if groups that have largely been here for 1-3 generations outcompete the two demographic groups that have been here since the founding of the nation, and the newcomers, lack the "privilege" of having cultural/linguistic familiarities then the entire premise of a head start as a whole is flawed.

Or … it’s complex and there are many factors that can lead to disparate outcomes.

Immigrants are a self-selecting group so not surprising they would do well.

Parenting and personal responsibility go a long way.

Right. Lots of historical reasons why there can be disparate behaviors between groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Daily Wire isn’t a credible source.

Next.

It is if it’s factual. Please fact check and let us know what is wrong with it.

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Meanwhile my kids learned nothing new this week because of teacher work days and religious observance days. How many Orthodox Christians needed the day off for epiphany in Fairfax County?

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Anonymous wrote:Daily Wire isn’t a credible source.

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It is if it’s factual. Please fact check and let us know what is wrong with it.

It's a crap "source" - it's RWNJ propaganda. Even if they sometimes get the facts right.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/

"Overall, we rate The Daily Wire Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that align with the conservative right. We also rate Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and numerous failed fact checks."

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Which school was this?

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Anonymous wrote:Daily Wire isn’t a credible source.

Next.

It is if it’s factual. Please fact check and let us know what is wrong with it.

It's a crap "source" - it's RWNJ propaganda. Even if they sometimes get the facts right.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/

"Overall, we rate The Daily Wire Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that align with the conservative right. We also rate Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and numerous failed fact checks."

Why are you so invested in this? Facts are facts. And your fact check site is staffed by left-leaning propagandists.

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Besides how facile, superficial, and lazy these kinds of exercises are, they are just a complete and utter waste of precious time.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

We don’t like the source because it’s not reliable and has a crazy bias.

Straight up propaganda.

Hard pass.

Is there anything factually incorrect in that link from the daily wire or sensationalistic asides from the link at the bottom of the screen?

It's mostly the same quotes readily found from other politicians or FCPS employees.

You tell us. Go back and objectively read the Daily Wire and Federalist pieces and report back. If you can be objective.

sure

I see most of it supported by the various Tweets or quotes, though I don't see the direct relevance of the paragraph discussing Omeish, other than implying she has something to do with it. The statements about military families mirror comments made here that the significant challenges for military family members don't appear to support the idea of military priviledge. They did not provide data to support the statement that some military connected families did not turn in their forms so that FCPS gets federal dollars, but it sounds plausible given discussions on DCUM.

I believe the links to other stories on there are sensationalistic though such as "Related: Meet The Seattle Schools Woke Indoctrination Czar Who Married A Child Molester".

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Anonymous wrote:Daily Wire isn’t a credible source.

Next.

It is if it’s factual. Please fact check and let us know what is wrong with it.

It's a crap "source" - it's RWNJ propaganda. Even if they sometimes get the facts right.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/

"Overall, we rate The Daily Wire Right Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that align with the conservative right. We also rate Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and numerous failed fact checks."

Why are you so invested in this? Facts are facts. And your fact check site is staffed by left-leaning propagandists.

I’m not the one who keep posting, trying to defend a propaganda site.

It’s objectively crap.