FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is the next BRAC? Friday?

Yes, it's on 4/25. And if patterns persist, it should be publicly posted by Monday.

The 5/5 meeting, which will be covering capacity, is a Monday and hoping that's posted by Tuesday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like this thread’s predecessors, this thread should be locked due to all the repeated arguments for and against the review and changes. There is higher new. Start a new thread and when a decision has finally been made.

for real life? Just don’t visit this forum and keep on scrolling by

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

Actually, if FCPS had been better about adjusting boundaries over the last 25 years, particularly the last 10, we wouldn't need to spend so much on expansions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

Actually, if FCPS had been better about adjusting boundaries over the last 25 years, particularly the last 10, we wouldn't need to spend so much on expansions.

The ongong waste at schools like Dranesville ES in Herndon and Dunn Loring has nothing to do with not having adjusted boundaries in the past, and everything to do with wasteful spending and the egos of corrupt politicians like Karl Frisch.

Also they wasted money on expanding Madison HS and aren't even proposing to move anyone there.

You School Board shills are tiring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

No. The magnitude of construction costs makes it impossible to do this. And when there is already something in the construction queue, the incremental cost of expanding a school and adjusting boundaries is much more cost effective.

We all think that Dunn Loring should be shelved, but that is like a quarter of a potential McLean renovation (Centreville is $300M).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

No. The magnitude of construction costs makes it impossible to do this. And when there is already something in the construction queue, the incremental cost of expanding a school and adjusting boundaries is much more cost effective.

We all think that Dunn Loring should be shelved, but that is like a quarter of a potential McLean renovation (Centreville is $300M).

The $300M estimate for Centreville is based on both renovating and expanding it to 3000 seats.

Justice HS was expanded for closer to $30 million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

No. The magnitude of construction costs makes it impossible to do this. And when there is already something in the construction queue, the incremental cost of expanding a school and adjusting boundaries is much more cost effective.

We all think that Dunn Loring should be shelved, but that is like a quarter of a potential McLean renovation (Centreville is $300M).

They are continuing to expand and renovate schools, just not the ones that actually need it the most.

Then they are poised to change boundaries to backfill seats that shouldn't have been added. Stay tuned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

No. The magnitude of construction costs makes it impossible to do this. And when there is already something in the construction queue, the incremental cost of expanding a school and adjusting boundaries is much more cost effective.

We all think that Dunn Loring should be shelved, but that is like a quarter of a potential McLean renovation (Centreville is $300M).

“Much more cost effective” is doing some really heavy lifting in your statement. For instance, if it would be $300 million to expand or marginally $250 million to expand while renovating, it still doesn’t mean that expanding is a good move. They should compare the marginal cost to the marginal benefit to determine whether it’s worth it.

Otherwise, It’s like me saying I made $10 because I bought a Gucci bag for $99990 instead of $100000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

No. The magnitude of construction costs makes it impossible to do this. And when there is already something in the construction queue, the incremental cost of expanding a school and adjusting boundaries is much more cost effective.

We all think that Dunn Loring should be shelved, but that is like a quarter of a potential McLean renovation (Centreville is $300M).

“Much more cost effective” is doing some really heavy lifting in your statement. For instance, if it would be $300 million to expand or marginally $250 million to expand while renovating, it still doesn’t mean that expanding is a good move. They should compare the marginal cost to the marginal benefit to determine whether it’s worth it.

Otherwise, It’s like me saying I made $10 because I bought a Gucci bag for $99990 instead of $100000.

That's exactly right. They've just assumed there might be some cost savings down the road, so they've wasted money on unnecessary additions, while neglecting many of the real hot spots. PP mentioned McLean, but that's hardly the only one. It's a sweet deal for the building contractors, but it leaves families having to cover up the continued incompetence of FCPS planning personnel and the School Board through boundary changes.

[Anonymous]

Centreville's stats are heading in the wrong direction. They will renovate and shift Chantilly/Robinson kids to hide what's happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

Valid observation, and one which suggests they have ulterior motives here (or possibly, they are simply that incompetent).

Another mystery here is their apparent lack of awareness their historical data is largely meaningless in the wake of the trump admiration’s changes to the federal government, the larger “ripple effect” on FCPS, plus the immigration crackdown.

Wouldn’t wisdom dictate a pause in the process?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

This current School Board is not the kne that gave Langley, Oakton, Madison, West Springfield, and West Potomac costly and large expansions and renovations. That was the work of many School Boards before this one, when conservative and moderate representatives were on the Board and let the taxpayer waste happen anyway.

Boundaries are the cheapest option, not another renovation and expansion that will cost half a billion as the work on Centreville HS will soon show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

This current School Board is not the kne that gave Langley, Oakton, Madison, West Springfield, and West Potomac costly and large expansions and renovations. That was the work of many School Boards before this one, when conservative and moderate representatives were on the Board and let the taxpayer waste happen anyway.

Boundaries are the cheapest option, not another renovation and expansion that will cost half a billion as the work on Centreville HS will soon show.

I think you are trying to rewrite history, and not very convincingly. Democrats have controlled the School Board for decades; it was members like Karen Corbett Sanders and Karen Keys Gamarra responsible for the expansions of West Potomac and Madison (their own schools); and the few moderate or conservative members were powerless to stop them.

If you really believed the current School Board was paying more attention they would have scaled back the Centreville expansion and canceled the expensive Dunn Loring boondoggle this year. They aren’t, because they don’t care one whit about efficiency, but they are willing to trot out that notion to justify boundary changes (while continuing to screw some communities) to advance their left-wing agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

Valid observation, and one which suggests they have ulterior motives here (or possibly, they are simply that incompetent).

Another mystery here is their apparent lack of awareness their historical data is largely meaningless in the wake of the trump admiration’s changes to the federal government, the larger “ripple effect” on FCPS, plus the immigration crackdown.

Wouldn’t wisdom dictate a pause in the process?

Gov Youngkin just said that a whooping 500 people had been arrested in Virginia for illegal immigration, I don’t think those numbers are going to change much for FCPS.