I got kicked out of Shady Grove's shared risk yesterday

[Anonymous]

I'm 38, have one child conceived at 35, all test results including AMH normal.
Two failed IUIs last year with clomid, moved on to IVF this year. I've posted about some of my poor cycles before.

1st cycle Antagonist protocol - stimmed for 16 days, 19 eggs, only 3 fertilized normally. No one was sure what happened, if it was protocol or an egg quality issue.
2nd cycle Antagonist with Estrogen priming - I wasn't able to prime as long as we wanted as I had a very short luteal phase that cycle, much better overall response, stimmed 14 days, 16 eggs retrieved, 14 normal and 13 fertilized. Pushed to a day 5/6 transfer as 10 out of the 13 were doing well on day 3. Ended up being a six day transfer with 1 fair and 2 poor blasts.

There was absolutely no interest in trying to move forward with my own eggs, just said it's egg quality and if you want to move forward you have to move to donor eggs.

Should I get second opinions? Move to donor egg with SGF?

I had done a phone consult at RBA after my first cycle and they said (without records because SGF was being a pain) it was absolutely a protocol issue.

I feel like I'm stuck in a marriage with SGF, wouldn't have to deal with obtaining financing again and I know how they work. Are they bad enough to actually leave?

[Anonymous]

Sounds like you need a second opinion.

[Anonymous]

How about micro dose lupron?

[Anonymous]

SG seemed completely uninterested in trying a different protocol. I suppose I could ask them if I went to fee for service what they would suggest.

I was thinking maybe a phone consult with one of the best clinics or does anyone have any recs on a local clinic? I'm in southern PA but work in MD.

[Anonymous]

Try NCIVF, especially if you are a low responder.

[Anonymous]

Yes, get a second opinion. After 2 failed cycles at SGFC I did a phone consult, and eventually cycled, with a known out-of-state clinic. It's a pain to get your records, ship them, learn the ways of the new clinic, etc., but so worth it, IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like it's time to move elsewhere. Personally, I would look into out-of-state clinics and do it sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous]

it's amazing to me how those clinics push people to DE. You are 38, with a child! I was pushed like you (at CFA) at 39-49, also with a child recently conceived, after 3 failed IVFs. Don't listen to them.

[Anonymous]

Clinics like Shady Gove are enormously concerned about their success rates. Once you've failed twice, you're considered a drag on their numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clinics like Shady Gove are enormously concerned about their success rates. Once you've failed twice, you're considered a drag on their numbers.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it's amazing to me how those clinics push people to DE. You are 38, with a child! I was pushed like you (at CFA) at 39-49, also with a child recently conceived, after 3 failed IVFs. Don't listen to them.

I totally agree! The push to DE is incredible, and at 38, and with a child! I would have liked to ask that RE to have his/her head examined!

But it's like a PP said, they only care about their stats.

Second opinion!!!

[Anonymous]

I had two cycles at SG that were both BFN. They really didn't have any ideas for the third cycle other than to just keep trying the same thing. They also gave me the DE talk. I was 33/34 at the time.

I also tried CFA which had it's other giant ball of problems. I did go back to SG to see if they had any suggestions after CFA and they basically said they doubted I could succeed at this point unless I went to DE. I'm now 35.

I'm now at Cornell in NY and just starting a cycle. So far, the experience has been much better. Maybe you could get a second or even third opinion? That may help for trying to figure out your next move especially if you're not happy with your current doctor. No need to stay with them if you don't think they have any confidence you'll succeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it's amazing to me how those clinics push people to DE. You are 38, with a child! I was pushed like you (at CFA) at 39-49, also with a child recently conceived, after 3 failed IVFs. Don't listen to them.

I totally agree! The push to DE is incredible, and at 38, and with a child! I would have liked to ask that RE to have his/her head examined!

But it's like a PP said, they only care about their stats.

Second opinion!!!

Even my OBGYN suggested DE after a whole 11 months of trying. What the hell???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Try NCIVF, especially if you are a low responder.

With 19 eggs retrieved she is hardly a low responder.

[Anonymous]

Ditto second opinion.

I just finished my 5th cycle with DEIVF in SG's shared risk program and we are withdrawing. We used three different donors and RE didn't even attempt to change our protocols until prior to our 5th try (4 prior BFNs). We got a BFP for the 5th try but have since been diagnosed with a blighted ovum and are hoping that we miscarry naturally (stopped meds 8 days ago). Maybe I'm just bitter, but I'm pretty unimpressed with their program, donors, etc.