DCI Parent Petition

[Anonymous]

Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School newspaper just dropped a special edition expose. Amazing.

Is that online? Link?

https://www.instagram.com/dci_newspaper/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFezsBJ2KJM2uDW37Gq0kZQyf7Fcqi5fVEjUbl5m_jU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4z2kyyema2et

Holy sh*t! This is bad.

DCI is really sinking.

I don’t agree. Seems like a small group is complaining about ensuring teachers are on time. A few people were let go for reasons we can’t legally know. I don’t know why you think a school is “sinking”. By that measure dcps as a whole is fully sunk (wait that might be accurate).

What do these protestors mean by “loss of IB for all”? It makes little sense to me but I’m an outsider.

I am once again asking in what world is 94% of staff, thousands of petition signers, and hundreds of students walking out a "small group"? Stop trying to make small group happen.

I think there were like 12 kids in the walkout, most of the kids didn’t even know it was happening. The staff number is unsurprising, given how teachers rebel against any and all accountability at every school.

Your continued "teachers hate accountability" argument doesn't really explain why students walked out, alumni spoke out, parents organized, and community members testified publicly. At some point, it becomes statistically improbable that every group raising concerns is the problem.

When your explanation for every criticism is that the critic is lazy, uninformed, manipulated, or disgruntled, you're no longer evaluating evidence. You're protecting your (wrong) conclusion.

The evidence we have is weak and all you’re doing is appealing to essentially unfalsifiable claims.

I dispute that the walkout was that big (and students claim it was the usual suspects, backing me up there). I dispute that the parental organization was any great number outside of dramatic LAMB parents who have caused trouble their entire time in the Charter system (and the behavior of other parents and the board backs me up here).

I don’t dispute the petition, but it appears in response to a truly necessary call for staff accountability.

I have no kids at DCI and no horse in this race. The video posted flies in the face of bolded. So either the video is AI or you are just making things up and sticking with your story. If an outsider is trying to figure out who is credible, it isn't you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School newspaper just dropped a special edition expose. Amazing.

Is that online? Link?

https://www.instagram.com/dci_newspaper/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFezsBJ2KJM2uDW37Gq0kZQyf7Fcqi5fVEjUbl5m_jU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4z2kyyema2et

Holy sh*t! This is bad.

DCI is really sinking.

I don’t agree. Seems like a small group is complaining about ensuring teachers are on time. A few people were let go for reasons we can’t legally know. I don’t know why you think a school is “sinking”. By that measure dcps as a whole is fully sunk (wait that might be accurate).

What do these protestors mean by “loss of IB for all”? It makes little sense to me but I’m an outsider.

I am once again asking in what world is 94% of staff, thousands of petition signers, and hundreds of students walking out a "small group"? Stop trying to make small group happen.

I think there were like 12 kids in the walkout, most of the kids didn’t even know it was happening. The staff number is unsurprising, given how teachers rebel against any and all accountability at every school.

Your continued "teachers hate accountability" argument doesn't really explain why students walked out, alumni spoke out, parents organized, and community members testified publicly. At some point, it becomes statistically improbable that every group raising concerns is the problem.

When your explanation for every criticism is that the critic is lazy, uninformed, manipulated, or disgruntled, you're no longer evaluating evidence. You're protecting your (wrong) conclusion.

The evidence we have is weak and all you’re doing is appealing to essentially unfalsifiable claims.

I dispute that the walkout was that big (and students claim it was the usual suspects, backing me up there). I dispute that the parental organization was any great number outside of dramatic LAMB parents who have caused trouble their entire time in the Charter system (and the behavior of other parents and the board backs me up here).

I don’t dispute the petition, but it appears in response to a truly necessary call for staff accountability.

I have no kids at DCI and no horse in this race. The video posted flies in the face of bolded. So either the video is AI or you are just making things up and sticking with your story. If an outsider is trying to figure out who is credible, it isn't you.

I don’t have a kid at DCI either but it looked pretty small for a student population with 1600 kids. It’s not like the whole school or even 10% walked out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

[Anonymous]

Wow--like rats leaving a sinking ship.

RIP DCI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

I think some are worried about addition of APs drawing from resources to staff a robust IB program. (That shouldn't be an issue if leadership can attract, retain, and pay good staff.)

A more real worry seems to be the school not investing in staff capacity to support IB implementation, with fewer full time roles than in prior years.

Neither of these seem as problematic as staff being unhappy enough that they will leave. Yes, accountability is good and should be expected. But, if it's being carried out in such a way that morale is bottoming out and teachers keep leaving, it doesn't matter what courses you offer on paper. One example, an upper level INS class taught in English most of the year because the subs couldn't teach in Spanish.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately educator vacancies are pretty common so if a teacher is unhappy it’s pretty easy to jump ship and get another job. I am a teacher and we have teachers leave midyear every year. This will be a problem for DCI if they are turning away staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School newspaper just dropped a special edition expose. Amazing.

Is that online? Link?

https://www.instagram.com/dci_newspaper/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFezsBJ2KJM2uDW37Gq0kZQyf7Fcqi5fVEjUbl5m_jU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4z2kyyema2et

Holy sh*t! This is bad.

DCI is really sinking.

I don’t agree. Seems like a small group is complaining about ensuring teachers are on time. A few people were let go for reasons we can’t legally know. I don’t know why you think a school is “sinking”. By that measure dcps as a whole is fully sunk (wait that might be accurate).

What do these protestors mean by “loss of IB for all”? It makes little sense to me but I’m an outsider.

I am once again asking in what world is 94% of staff, thousands of petition signers, and hundreds of students walking out a "small group"? Stop trying to make small group happen.

I think there were like 12 kids in the walkout, most of the kids didn’t even know it was happening. The staff number is unsurprising, given how teachers rebel against any and all accountability at every school.

Your continued "teachers hate accountability" argument doesn't really explain why students walked out, alumni spoke out, parents organized, and community members testified publicly. At some point, it becomes statistically improbable that every group raising concerns is the problem.

When your explanation for every criticism is that the critic is lazy, uninformed, manipulated, or disgruntled, you're no longer evaluating evidence. You're protecting your (wrong) conclusion.

The evidence we have is weak and all you’re doing is appealing to essentially unfalsifiable claims.

I dispute that the walkout was that big (and students claim it was the usual suspects, backing me up there). I dispute that the parental organization was any great number outside of dramatic LAMB parents who have caused trouble their entire time in the Charter system (and the behavior of other parents and the board backs me up here).

I don’t dispute the petition, but it appears in response to a truly necessary call for staff accountability.

I have no kids at DCI and no horse in this race. The video posted flies in the face of bolded. So either the video is AI or you are just making things up and sticking with your story. If an outsider is trying to figure out who is credible, it isn't you.

I don’t have a kid at DCI either but it looked pretty small for a student population with 1600 kids. It’s not like the whole school or even 10% walked out.

You seem very confident for someone who wasn’t there.

The middle school was in testing, so the walkout was limited to the high school. Anyone who was actually present knows almost all students walked out and there was representation from across grades, programs, backgrounds, and friend groups… not just “the usual suspects.”

More importantly, you’re missing the point. Whether it was 300 students or 500 students, that’s an extraordinary event in the life of a school. Students generally don’t leave class, risk disciplinary consequences, organize petitions, testify publicly, and spend months advocating because they’re upset about employee badge swipes.

And since we’re talking about leadership, it’s worth noting that while students were outside making their concerns known, Rosskamm exited through the back of the building rather than facing the students directly. Many people viewed that as emblematic of the broader concern: when confronted with difficult feedback, the response has too often been avoidance rather than engagement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

I think some are worried about addition of APs drawing from resources to staff a robust IB program. (That shouldn't be an issue if leadership can attract, retain, and pay good staff.)

A more real worry seems to be the school not investing in staff capacity to support IB implementation, with fewer full time roles than in prior years.

Neither of these seem as problematic as staff being unhappy enough that they will leave. Yes, accountability is good and should be expected. But, if it's being carried out in such a way that morale is bottoming out and teachers keep leaving, it doesn't matter what courses you offer on paper. One example, an upper level INS class taught in English most of the year because the subs couldn't teach in Spanish.

If the parent protestors are against AP classes for the kids that want them then I am 100% against them and pro Rosskamm. I want my kids to have access to AP exams as well if only to make them look attractive to colleges. IB schools offer AP all the time for kids to take as freshman and sophomores or for those kids who choose the career track. This is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

I think some are worried about addition of APs drawing from resources to staff a robust IB program. (That shouldn't be an issue if leadership can attract, retain, and pay good staff.)

A more real worry seems to be the school not investing in staff capacity to support IB implementation, with fewer full time roles than in prior years.

Neither of these seem as problematic as staff being unhappy enough that they will leave. Yes, accountability is good and should be expected. But, if it's being carried out in such a way that morale is bottoming out and teachers keep leaving, it doesn't matter what courses you offer on paper. One example, an upper level INS class taught in English most of the year because the subs couldn't teach in Spanish.

If the parent protestors are against AP classes for the kids that want them then I am 100% against them and pro Rosskamm. I want my kids to have access to AP exams as well if only to make them look attractive to colleges. IB schools offer AP all the time for kids to take as freshman and sophomores or for those kids who choose the career track. This is ridiculous.

JFC. If you think our concerns are AP classes you have not been paying attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

I think some are worried about addition of APs drawing from resources to staff a robust IB program. (That shouldn't be an issue if leadership can attract, retain, and pay good staff.)

A more real worry seems to be the school not investing in staff capacity to support IB implementation, with fewer full time roles than in prior years.

Neither of these seem as problematic as staff being unhappy enough that they will leave. Yes, accountability is good and should be expected. But, if it's being carried out in such a way that morale is bottoming out and teachers keep leaving, it doesn't matter what courses you offer on paper. One example, an upper level INS class taught in English most of the year because the subs couldn't teach in Spanish.

If the parent protestors are against AP classes for the kids that want them then I am 100% against them and pro Rosskamm. I want my kids to have access to AP exams as well if only to make them look attractive to colleges. IB schools offer AP all the time for kids to take as freshman and sophomores or for those kids who choose the career track. This is ridiculous.

JFC. If you think our concerns are AP classes you have not been paying attention.

I get that they’ve let go of teachers you like and some teachers (all maybe?) are “not confident” in Rosskamm. Sure.

But I care more about AP courses for kids and I care more about stability for the school.

Also, I want teachers to be on time and accountable. If that makes them unhappy and they leave, oh well.

This dci parent petition is insane and I won’t be signing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

I think some are worried about addition of APs drawing from resources to staff a robust IB program. (That shouldn't be an issue if leadership can attract, retain, and pay good staff.)

A more real worry seems to be the school not investing in staff capacity to support IB implementation, with fewer full time roles than in prior years.

Neither of these seem as problematic as staff being unhappy enough that they will leave. Yes, accountability is good and should be expected. But, if it's being carried out in such a way that morale is bottoming out and teachers keep leaving, it doesn't matter what courses you offer on paper. One example, an upper level INS class taught in English most of the year because the subs couldn't teach in Spanish.

If the parent protestors are against AP classes for the kids that want them then I am 100% against them and pro Rosskamm. I want my kids to have access to AP exams as well if only to make them look attractive to colleges. IB schools offer AP all the time for kids to take as freshman and sophomores or for those kids who choose the career track. This is ridiculous.

JFC. If you think our concerns are AP classes you have not been paying attention.

I get that they’ve let go of teachers you like and some teachers (all maybe?) are “not confident” in Rosskamm. Sure.

But I care more about AP courses for kids and I care more about stability for the school.

Also, I want teachers to be on time and accountable. If that makes them unhappy and they leave, oh well.

This dci parent petition is insane and I won’t be signing it.

Good for you. Hundreds of other parents have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School newspaper just dropped a special edition expose. Amazing.

Is that online? Link?

https://www.instagram.com/dci_newspaper/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFezsBJ2KJM2uDW37Gq0kZQyf7Fcqi5fVEjUbl5m_jU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4z2kyyema2et

Holy sh*t! This is bad.

DCI is really sinking.

I don’t agree. Seems like a small group is complaining about ensuring teachers are on time. A few people were let go for reasons we can’t legally know. I don’t know why you think a school is “sinking”. By that measure dcps as a whole is fully sunk (wait that might be accurate).

What do these protestors mean by “loss of IB for all”? It makes little sense to me but I’m an outsider.

I am once again asking in what world is 94% of staff, thousands of petition signers, and hundreds of students walking out a "small group"? Stop trying to make small group happen.

I think there were like 12 kids in the walkout, most of the kids didn’t even know it was happening. The staff number is unsurprising, given how teachers rebel against any and all accountability at every school.

Your continued "teachers hate accountability" argument doesn't really explain why students walked out, alumni spoke out, parents organized, and community members testified publicly. At some point, it becomes statistically improbable that every group raising concerns is the problem.

When your explanation for every criticism is that the critic is lazy, uninformed, manipulated, or disgruntled, you're no longer evaluating evidence. You're protecting your (wrong) conclusion.

The evidence we have is weak and all you’re doing is appealing to essentially unfalsifiable claims.

I dispute that the walkout was that big (and students claim it was the usual suspects, backing me up there). I dispute that the parental organization was any great number outside of dramatic LAMB parents who have caused trouble their entire time in the Charter system (and the behavior of other parents and the board backs me up here).

I don’t dispute the petition, but it appears in response to a truly necessary call for staff accountability.

I have no kids at DCI and no horse in this race. The video posted flies in the face of bolded. So either the video is AI or you are just making things up and sticking with your story. If an outsider is trying to figure out who is credible, it isn't you.

I don’t have a kid at DCI either but it looked pretty small for a student population with 1600 kids. It’s not like the whole school or even 10% walked out.

You seem very confident for someone who wasn’t there.

The middle school was in testing, so the walkout was limited to the high school. Anyone who was actually present knows almost all students walked out and there was representation from across grades, programs, backgrounds, and friend groups… not just “the usual suspects.”

More importantly, you’re missing the point. Whether it was 300 students or 500 students, that’s an extraordinary event in the life of a school. Students generally don’t leave class, risk disciplinary consequences, organize petitions, testify publicly, and spend months advocating because they’re upset about employee badge swipes.

And since we’re talking about leadership, it’s worth noting that while students were outside making their concerns known, Rosskamm exited through the back of the building rather than facing the students directly. Many people viewed that as emblematic of the broader concern: when confronted with difficult feedback, the response has too often been avoidance rather than engagement.

How many students are not returning next year? That is more of a metric for there displeasure than a silly walkout.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Materially, what does it mean to end IB for all, and what explicit actions are the school taking to lead to it? No one knows! I was assuming people were freaking out over new AP classes, which I think is wrongheaded, but it’s not clear that’s the case.

Can someone provide an answer for this? I don’t care about the walkout, the video, anything. I just want to understand what they mean by putting IB at risk.

I think some are worried about addition of APs drawing from resources to staff a robust IB program. (That shouldn't be an issue if leadership can attract, retain, and pay good staff.)

A more real worry seems to be the school not investing in staff capacity to support IB implementation, with fewer full time roles than in prior years.

Neither of these seem as problematic as staff being unhappy enough that they will leave. Yes, accountability is good and should be expected. But, if it's being carried out in such a way that morale is bottoming out and teachers keep leaving, it doesn't matter what courses you offer on paper. One example, an upper level INS class taught in English most of the year because the subs couldn't teach in Spanish.

If the parent protestors are against AP classes for the kids that want them then I am 100% against them and pro Rosskamm. I want my kids to have access to AP exams as well if only to make them look attractive to colleges. IB schools offer AP all the time for kids to take as freshman and sophomores or for those kids who choose the career track. This is ridiculous.

+10000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School newspaper just dropped a special edition expose. Amazing.

Is that online? Link?

https://www.instagram.com/dci_newspaper/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFezsBJ2KJM2uDW37Gq0kZQyf7Fcqi5fVEjUbl5m_jU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4z2kyyema2et

Holy sh*t! This is bad.

DCI is really sinking.

I don’t agree. Seems like a small group is complaining about ensuring teachers are on time. A few people were let go for reasons we can’t legally know. I don’t know why you think a school is “sinking”. By that measure dcps as a whole is fully sunk (wait that might be accurate).

What do these protestors mean by “loss of IB for all”? It makes little sense to me but I’m an outsider.

I am once again asking in what world is 94% of staff, thousands of petition signers, and hundreds of students walking out a "small group"? Stop trying to make small group happen.

I think there were like 12 kids in the walkout, most of the kids didn’t even know it was happening. The staff number is unsurprising, given how teachers rebel against any and all accountability at every school.

Your continued "teachers hate accountability" argument doesn't really explain why students walked out, alumni spoke out, parents organized, and community members testified publicly. At some point, it becomes statistically improbable that every group raising concerns is the problem.

When your explanation for every criticism is that the critic is lazy, uninformed, manipulated, or disgruntled, you're no longer evaluating evidence. You're protecting your (wrong) conclusion.

The evidence we have is weak and all you’re doing is appealing to essentially unfalsifiable claims.

I dispute that the walkout was that big (and students claim it was the usual suspects, backing me up there). I dispute that the parental organization was any great number outside of dramatic LAMB parents who have caused trouble their entire time in the Charter system (and the behavior of other parents and the board backs me up here).

I don’t dispute the petition, but it appears in response to a truly necessary call for staff accountability.

I have no kids at DCI and no horse in this race. The video posted flies in the face of bolded. So either the video is AI or you are just making things up and sticking with your story. If an outsider is trying to figure out who is credible, it isn't you.

I don’t have a kid at DCI either but it looked pretty small for a student population with 1600 kids. It’s not like the whole school or even 10% walked out.

You seem very confident for someone who wasn’t there.

The middle school was in testing, so the walkout was limited to the high school. Anyone who was actually present knows almost all students walked out and there was representation from across grades, programs, backgrounds, and friend groups… not just “the usual suspects.”

More importantly, you’re missing the point. Whether it was 300 students or 500 students, that’s an extraordinary event in the life of a school. Students generally don’t leave class, risk disciplinary consequences, organize petitions, testify publicly, and spend months advocating because they’re upset about employee badge swipes.

And since we’re talking about leadership, it’s worth noting that while students were outside making their concerns known, Rosskamm exited through the back of the building rather than facing the students directly. Many people viewed that as emblematic of the broader concern: when confronted with difficult feedback, the response has too often been avoidance rather than engagement.

How many students are not returning next year? That is more of a metric for there displeasure than a silly walkout.

Your question was reasonable and for a moment you seemed a reasonable person. The you characterized the walkout as "silly" and -POOF- credibility gone.