Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS isn’t going to do anything more than stated to gather feedback. If you want that to change go bother them.

Or feel free to spend your own time helping people understand the options and communicate feedback if you don’t think they are able to do so without assistance.

And be accused of being a white savior? Nah.

[Anonymous]

This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

Honestly the next county executive should run on this platform. It's a great idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

Honestly the next county executive should run on this platform. It's a great idea.

Yesss a 3rd high school in North Bethesda is just what MCPS needs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

That is why they have wj and Woodward. They don’t need one there.

[Anonymous]

MCPS has been publishing various documents on boundary analysis. This one, mentioned upthread, is pretty impactful to me:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/publicinfo/boundary_analysis/interim-report/02d_proximity.pdf

Basically, a "long" distance to school is over 4 miles in the entirety of the county. The place with that sort of average long distance is to the west of 270, not anywhere with higher population density. Closer in (the area that is the subject of the Woodward boundary study), the average distance looks like 1.5 miles.

The study notes that "schools with island assignment attendance areas have considerably higher average travel distances than their neighbors" (p.270).

Also of note:
"MCPS strives to create neighborhood schools, where students live as close as possible to school. The district also strives to maximize the number of students who walk to school. Student proximity to schools is an important planning consideration for MCPS, as laid out in Policy FAA, which names geography as a key factor in educational facilities planning. As cited in this policy, the school system has an ongoing commitment to “community
involvement in schools.”

Additionally, MCPS aims for as many students to live in walk-zones as possible, and participates in the national Safe Routes to School program to promote the safety of student walkers and bikers. Proximity to school is not only important for students, families, and communities, but also for the school district’s resources. MCPS transports about 100,000 students every day, in nearly 1,200 buses. As enrollment in the school system has grown, so too has the amount of resources needed to transport this growing student body each day."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has been publishing various documents on boundary analysis. This one, mentioned upthread, is pretty impactful to me:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/publicinfo/boundary_analysis/interim-report/02d_proximity.pdf

Basically, a "long" distance to school is over 4 miles in the entirety of the county. The place with that sort of average long distance is to the west of 270, not anywhere with higher population density. Closer in (the area that is the subject of the Woodward boundary study), the average distance looks like 1.5 miles.

The study notes that "schools with island assignment attendance areas have considerably higher average travel distances than their neighbors" (p.270).

Also of note:
"MCPS strives to create neighborhood schools, where students live as close as possible to school. The district also strives to maximize the number of students who walk to school. Student proximity to schools is an important planning consideration for MCPS, as laid out in Policy FAA, which names geography as a key factor in educational facilities planning. As cited in this policy, the school system has an ongoing commitment to “community
involvement in schools.”

Additionally, MCPS aims for as many students to live in walk-zones as possible, and participates in the national Safe Routes to School program to promote the safety of student walkers and bikers. Proximity to school is not only important for students, families, and communities, but also for the school district’s resources. MCPS transports about 100,000 students every day, in nearly 1,200 buses. As enrollment in the school system has grown, so too has the amount of resources needed to transport this growing student body each day."

Its 1 out of 4 factors and not the only factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

That is why they have wj and Woodward. They don’t need one there.

But they can bus DCC kids there so WJ and Woodward can be reserved for WJ families /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

Honestly the next county executive should run on this platform. It's a great idea.

Yesss a 3rd high school in North Bethesda is just what MCPS needs

Where what is there land? Call it a DCC school and move on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

That is why they have wj and Woodward. They don’t need one there.

We need one to keep the riff Raff out of Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has been publishing various documents on boundary analysis. This one, mentioned upthread, is pretty impactful to me:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/publicinfo/boundary_analysis/interim-report/02d_proximity.pdf

Basically, a "long" distance to school is over 4 miles in the entirety of the county. The place with that sort of average long distance is to the west of 270, not anywhere with higher population density. Closer in (the area that is the subject of the Woodward boundary study), the average distance looks like 1.5 miles.

The study notes that "schools with island assignment attendance areas have considerably higher average travel distances than their neighbors" (p.270).

Also of note:
"MCPS strives to create neighborhood schools, where students live as close as possible to school. The district also strives to maximize the number of students who walk to school. Student proximity to schools is an important planning consideration for MCPS, as laid out in Policy FAA, which names geography as a key factor in educational facilities planning. As cited in this policy, the school system has an ongoing commitment to “community
involvement in schools.”

Additionally, MCPS aims for as many students to live in walk-zones as possible, and participates in the national Safe Routes to School program to promote the safety of student walkers and bikers. Proximity to school is not only important for students, families, and communities, but also for the school district’s resources. MCPS transports about 100,000 students every day, in nearly 1,200 buses. As enrollment in the school system has grown, so too has the amount of resources needed to transport this growing student body each day."

Its 1 out of 4 factors and not the only factor.

Yeah but if MCPS considers 4 miles long, and average distance in our area is less than 2 miles, it seems ridiculous to propose options with distances of 6 or more miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody is really opposed to getting feedback from low income people.

Of course they are. They will find any reason to oppose any method that will actually reach them. They will insist it won't work. They want to be able to get their own voices heard and drown out everybody else's. The best is when they act like they know what boundaries will be best for low income people.

Nope. Not all of us. I am umc, live in west county and want to hear from low income people on how the options will impact them and their kids directly. MCPS should use community organizing tools to get this feedback.

What I am opposed to is people who are not low income imagining what low income people want and speaking for them, usually on social media where they can get praised for being a champion.

I am in west county and opposed to long bus rides for my kid. Full stop. Hate long bus rides. Agree that property values are not a factor in all this.

I am however open to different ideas, including somewhat longer busrides IF people who are low income really want something like option 3 and think kids who have been hurt by the status quo
will benefit from a change.

I am not open to something like option 3 if low income people also don’t want it and the only ones in favor of it are other umc white people who want ease their guilt and feel morally superior.

Fantastic. I would love to hear how you think MCPS should reach low income people and whether you support them investing time and money into this.

Why can’t they reach out low income families through the local schools systems. We all know Remind for communication with a school. Every school could provide detailed information on the study and ask all the parents to participate. Then each school could share the feedback they received. Is that difficult to implement? Actually they do it already in a way, at least in our school, so there is hope that all the voices will be heard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t like how they have singled out particular neighborhoods in the islands for the bussing and long distance drives rather than walking. It could by anyone. Why our neighborhood?

Isn't it like a 40 minute walk from Farmland ES to Woodward? My guess is most families would just drive.

No it’s not that far at all and this is a very walkable, bike friendly neighborhood. In fact, we have a well-used bike lane and trail to Pike and Rose (just up from Woodward). People use scooters all the time here too. Back when the basketball court, fields, and track were open at Woodward (then Tilden MS), people and kids walked up there all the time to use the outdoor space.

Why encourage all the biking and walking (and put in bike lanes on Tilden and Old Georgetown) to bring in buses to ship kids across the county?

Such a great point. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread got off track. Let's get back to eminent domain of White Flint Mall and put a school or two on it.

That is why they have wj and Woodward. They don’t need one there.

But they can bus DCC kids there so WJ and Woodward can be reserved for WJ families /s

Knock it off troll