Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:They were both privileged. Do you know who her father is?

Yup. She was a Holton-Arms, Columbia Country Club girl. Now she (and her husband) own a $3 million house Palo Alto and a $1 million beach house in Santa Cruz.

Only poor women can be victims of sexual assault? I’m not sure I follow your argument.

A PP condemned Kavanaugh for his white privilege. I was pointing out that his accuser has led a life of white privilege, as well. That's all.

Somehow, I don't think she gets jobs by going in and yelling that she went to Holton and Stanford.

She doesn't have to yell it. She puts it in her job applications.

He was yelling because he is enraged by this false accusation and the Democrats' dirty tricks to take him down by humiliating and embarassing him. Ridicule is a big tactic employed by liberals.

I think he will be confirmed, but barely.

He was yelling because his privileged life has told him that this job is ‘his’ but it wasn’t going smoothly like he expected.
It was ridiculous and clueless. He appears to be someone who isn’t aware of the world around him and that makes him unqualified.

I think he was yelling because Trump told him to be tough and that is how he acts tough. He was at a point where he had to keep Trump on his side so that Trump does not withdraw the nomination, and Trump likes people who are belligerent. A FBI investigation into his background at this point seemly pointless. The Rs are just trying to provide cover for the few swing vote Senators in the hopes they will change their votes. If the Rs has 50 votes on Friday they would have held the floor vote on Saturday.

Well, Trump gave him bad advice. He should have just been chill.

Trump giving bad advice. Imagine that.

He probably also told Kav to grab someone by the pussy.

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Anonymous wrote:They were both privileged. Do you know who her father is?

Yup. She was a Holton-Arms, Columbia Country Club girl. Now she (and her husband) own a $3 million house Palo Alto and a $1 million beach house in Santa Cruz.

Only poor women can be victims of sexual assault? I’m not sure I follow your argument.

A PP condemned Kavanaugh for his white privilege. I was pointing out that his accuser has led a life of white privilege, as well. That's all.

Somehow, I don't think she gets jobs by going in and yelling that she went to Holton and Stanford.

She doesn't have to yell it. She puts it in her job applications.

He was yelling because he is enraged by this false accusation and the Democrats' dirty tricks to take him down by humiliating and embarassing him. Ridicule is a big tactic employed by liberals.

I think he will be confirmed, but barely.

Election betting odds at 66.5% in favor of confirmation. At one point in the last couple of days it was nearly 85%. Dipped below 60% yesterday.

Let's see where it is at the end of the week, when the FBI reports - for the 7th time - that there is nothing in his background of concern.

Keep in mind, not only is the White House controlling who/what can be interviewed by the FBI, but the report delivered to the White House can be edited and items deleted, before it goes to the Senate Judiciary Committee. So at the end of the day, this is not a transparent process and likely will have more gaps and lack of credibility than anything being answered.

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Anonymous wrote:On next month's SCOTUS docket is Gamble vs US. No 17-646. This is what the rush is about. Yes, they want him to overturn Roe, yes they want him to drag us all back, but they need him seated for October to rule on that specific case.

At stakes is the "separate sovereigns" exception to double jeopardy. If he (and the other 4 conservative judges) vote to overrule it, people given presidential pardons for federal crimes cannot be tried for that crime at the state level.

Trump can pardon the lot of them and they have nothing to fear from state's attorneys.

Hence the rush to get Kavanaugh on the court.

If this is successful, our republic and the rule of law is dead.

Yes, we know. He could have midnight rituals eating children and he would still be pushed forward by GOP now. They have to cover their asses big time.

original poster: Thank you for posting the details on all of it to explain it out. I said "Yes, we know." but maybe it is only people who are really invested on both sides who know. It is really a threatening thing and very scary. THank you for taking the time to post the significance.

I just checked the SCOTUS blog. It looks like reply briefs in this case are due 11/23/18. Does anyone know what the rules are for when a Justice has to be seated in order to rule on a case? If they are seated any time during the session can they rule on any case, even if they were not seated during briefing and, possibly, argument?

Also of note to all you true conservatives out there -- Orrin Hatch filed an amicus brief in this case SUPPORTING enhanced concentration of power in the federal government and AGAINST states rights. This is pretty contrary to true conservatives' raison d'etre. His lawyers wrangled themselves into a pieces supporting this expansion of federal power at the expense of the states. Oh how the hypocrites have fallen.

You have to be seated by oral argument.

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Anonymous wrote:The FBI is apparently going to interview 4 witnesses about the sexual assault allegations, but it won't be a full fledged criminal investigation. The WH will then decide based on these findings, as reported in NYT.

If that is true he will always be illegitimate and this will hang over him forever, SCOTUS or not. Stupid move but he and Trump only care about getting him on the court.

Sacrifice will not be worth it.

Only in the minds of liberals who had him guilty before anyone testified about any of this crap.

Anyone on the fence is no longer on the fence. He looked like an angry drunk, and he was presumably sober. He had a pathetic tantrum. The GOP is going to lose people who may have gone their way in the past.

Silly. That bro bravado is what the GOP likes. He may not get to the Court but he could get an admin job.

Not one that requires Senate confirmation.

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Anonymous wrote:They were both privileged. Do you know who her father is?

Yup. She was a Holton-Arms, Columbia Country Club girl. Now she (and her husband) own a $3 million house Palo Alto and a $1 million beach house in Santa Cruz.

Only poor women can be victims of sexual assault? I’m not sure I follow your argument.

A PP condemned Kavanaugh for his white privilege. I was pointing out that his accuser has led a life of white privilege, as well. That's all.

Somehow, I don't think she gets jobs by going in and yelling that she went to Holton and Stanford.

She doesn't have to yell it. She puts it in her job applications.

He was yelling because he is enraged by this false accusation and the Democrats' dirty tricks to take him down by humiliating and embarassing him. Ridicule is a big tactic employed by liberals.

I think he will be confirmed, but barely.

Election betting odds at 66.5% in favor of confirmation. At one point in the last couple of days it was nearly 85%. Dipped below 60% yesterday.

Let's see where it is at the end of the week, when the FBI reports - for the 7th time - that there is nothing in his background of concern.

Keep in mind, not only is the White House controlling who/what can be interviewed by the FBI, but the report delivered to the White House can be edited and items deleted, before it goes to the Senate Judiciary Committee. So at the end of the day, this is not a transparent process and likely will have more gaps and lack of credibility than anything being answered.

Check your information.
A former FBI Deputy Director I saw interviewed yesterday said because Trump turned this over to the Senate, the report would go directly to the SJC.

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A detailed explanation of why Kavanaugh is lying

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

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"PJ" did not sign the letter of support from the Gtown Prep friends. FWIW.

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Anonymous wrote:On next month's SCOTUS docket is Gamble vs US. No 17-646. This is what the rush is about. Yes, they want him to overturn Roe, yes they want him to drag us all back, but they need him seated for October to rule on that specific case.

At stakes is the "separate sovereigns" exception to double jeopardy. If he (and the other 4 conservative judges) vote to overrule it, people given presidential pardons for federal crimes cannot be tried for that crime at the state level.

Trump can pardon the lot of them and they have nothing to fear from state's attorneys.

Hence the rush to get Kavanaugh on the court.

If this is successful, our republic and the rule of law is dead.

Great post

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Anonymous wrote:They were both privileged. Do you know who her father is?

Yup. She was a Holton-Arms, Columbia Country Club girl. Now she (and her husband) own a $3 million house Palo Alto and a $1 million beach house in Santa Cruz.

Only poor women can be victims of sexual assault? I’m not sure I follow your argument.

A PP condemned Kavanaugh for his white privilege. I was pointing out that his accuser has led a life of white privilege, as well. That's all.

They both went to private schools, lived in Bethesda, belonged to country clubs = rich. Both came from rich families. We've established this. Now move on.

Did you tell the liberal poster who blamed "white privilege" to move on? I was pointing out that you can't blame a Kavanaugh for white privilege when both parties are rich.

And married to big pharma.

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Anonymous wrote:So, apparently Trump has told the FBI they cannot ask Safeway for its employment records to determine when Mark Judge worked at a Safeway in Bethesda in 1982.

My question: Why can't someone else, say the Montgomery police department, ask Safeway for those records?

Why can't Safeway volunteer those dates?

In my experience, if you are checking out an applicant for a job, you can call and any employer will give their dates of employment.

Why not call Safeway and ask? Can't anyone do this?

Where are you getting this information?

Omg, call Safeway and ask for records? You do realize that for one, Safeway is a dump that’s going under soon. For two this was ‘Pre conputers’ - you think that they have kept handwritten letters or time cards of a stockboy who worked there in maybe 1980? Workers actually punched cards there. They burned those long ago.
I worked there as a teen in I think 1983 and 1984 and so did a friend. I remember two boys but neither was Mark Judge. I’m waiting for my friend to ‘remember’ but she hasn’t written back. That’s as good as you’re going to get.
My guess would be that the ‘grown ups’ who worked there are either dead now or senile.

And if you want to investigate ‘sexual harassment’ you can look into the records of that sh@@hole from he// to work in - weird men used to sexually harass women there very openly and constantly and if the woman complained she was transferred to a far away store or fired.
It was such a crappy place I can’t believe that Mark Judge worked there, but I’m impressed that his parents must have been trying to instill some values in him.

It may have been a crappy place to work, but they may still have records. It can't hurt to ask.

There’s no way they have records. Nothing was computerized and it’s been 30+ years.

OMG. This is not hard people. I work for SSA, and if I had his SSN (which I don’t) and didn’t mind getting fired/ prosecuted (which I do), I could tell you with 3 minutes of effort if/when he worked for Safeway. Certainly a forum full of Fed attorneys knows that his income from Safeway was reported to SSA by quarter, with the employer. And to the IRS as well, although I don’t know their databases.

The FBI doesn’t need to go scrounging through 30 year old paper files at Safeway. They literally need to appear at my office with the right paperwork and will get an immediate answer one. And yes, we are computerized back before 1980. In fact, your SSA records are safe from Chinese/Russian hackersbecause many of our systems haven’t been updated since the 1980s.

Carry on. But let the Safeway records thing die. The info is very easy to find.

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I am not sure why the Safeway thing is even a question. Judge wrote he worked at a grocery store in his book. I guess if they are not allowed to interview Judge, then this would be a way of verifying, but, sheesh, this is what they are supposed to be doing.

I hope Flake, Collins and Murkowski are watching this sham closely.

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Anonymous wrote:On next month's SCOTUS docket is Gamble vs US. No 17-646. This is what the rush is about. Yes, they want him to overturn Roe, yes they want him to drag us all back, but they need him seated for October to rule on that specific case.

At stakes is the "separate sovereigns" exception to double jeopardy. If he (and the other 4 conservative judges) vote to overrule it, people given presidential pardons for federal crimes cannot be tried for that crime at the state level.

Trump can pardon the lot of them and they have nothing to fear from state's attorneys.

Hence the rush to get Kavanaugh on the court.

If this is successful, our republic and the rule of law is dead.

Good catch PP.

The stakes are so high in this fight.

No wonder the POTUS is lying, lying, lying, as usual.

Women must rise up and fight this menace. Vote the GOP out of power in the house and senate in November. Tie the GOP's hands for the rest of Dumpy's term. Oh, and impeach and remove him.

Good catch. I heard senator Kennedy say they wanted him seated by October and this must be why. After the last couple of weeks Kavanaugh must feel extremely beholden to the WH

re: Gamble v. United States, No. 17-646.

Right, the Republicans need to get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court FAST, so that he can vote, along with the other "conservative" justices, to overturn the separate sovereigns doctrine, thereby rendering state prosecutions powerless, once Trump grants a federal pardon.

Right now, it wouldn't matter in Trump pardoned, for example, a villain like Paul Manafort (a truly bad guy, whatever your politics) because he would face state charges on the same things and Trump can't issue a pardon for a state charge. However, once the Republicans get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, they will be able to empower Trump so he can pardon anyone/everyone he wants for any/every charge. Trump will be above the law.

Kavanaugh met this Spring with Republican operatives led by Don McGahn to hash out the deal: nominate him for the Supreme Court and he'd do whatever they want in order to protect Trump/give him new effective powers.

If separate sovereigns doctrine is overturned by the Supreme Court (and if they get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, it will) a coup all have occurred. However, most people won't understand that it has, which is ever better for the Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:"However, as my client has already made clear, she does not know Judge Kavanaugh and has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," the letter from Howard Walsh, Keyser's attorney, said. It continued that Keyser "does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/christine-blasey-ford-friend-leland-keyser-clarifies-statement-about-alleged-assault-by-brett-kavanaugh/


Cliffs of insanity party of millions...

Not a single Ford supporter will explain this.

It’s been explained so many times but I’ll do it again: that gathering was a non-event for Keyser so nobody expects her to remember. They went to the pool almost every day, it sounds like small gatherings after being at the pool were a regular occurrence, and Ford didn’t tell her about the assault. Can you recall every gathering big or small that you went to as a freshman in college and who was there? I certainly cannot, I pretty much just remember events, etc. with personal significance, even then I can’t remember much detail. Even though she doesn’t remember anything she trusts her friend and believes her.

You can explain to infinity but it's still just a supposition.

Leland was essentially patting her friend on the head, i.e. I believe you if you say it's true. I have a friend who is like Ms. Ford. What Leland WON'T do, is say she was somewhere she wasn't and that she knows a man she doesn't know. Because she's essentially under oath.

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If separate sovereigns doctrine is overturned by the Supreme Court (and if they get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, it will) a coup will have occurred. However, most people won't understand that it has, which is even better for the Republicans.

If separate sovereigns doctrine is overturned by the Supreme Court (and if they get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, it will) a coup all have occurred. However, most people won't understand that it has, which is ever better for the Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:The FBI has not yet contacted Dr. Ford.

To date, there is absolutely no confirmation that ANY investigation is taking place at all.

Are they just running out the clock?

Once again, nobody knows what they have or haven’t done. It is an FBI investigation. Done in confidence. It is not for public consumption at this point.... as this SHOULD have been the way it was done all along. Thanks, Feinstein.

There's no way they talk to Ford first. They already heard her testimony. Now they go to the peripherals she names, talk to them, then they talk to Ford and present any inconsistencies. My guess is her story will change again.