
Wrong. I would feel the same way about the Kavanaugh hearings regardless of political party (and, fyi, I'm an independent). This man was judged guilty in the court of public opinion, and by all the Democratic senators, with the world watching - and ZERO corroborating evidence. The way he and his family were treated was a travesty. You, and people like you, have completely pissed on the entire concept of innocent until proven guilty. YOU should be ashamed. |
You are incorrect. I have nothing to be ashamed of. I never said he was guilty of anything other than being a shitty guy. All you needed to do was listen to his testimony before the Senate, and I'm not just talking in relation to the Ford allegations, to figure that out. Talk about assuming. Remember, anonymous forum with lots of PPs. ![]() And what about the travesty of how the Ford has been treated by the conservative public?? Don't care about that do you? Women who step forward to seek justice for sexual assault have been treated like shit for centuries. You want a travesty????? That is an effing travesty. YOU should be ashamed for getting all worked up about the wrong thing. Kavanaugh is now a Justice (there's another travesty). His rich family will be fine. Maybe worry about all the actual victims out there that don't have all the rich Republican Senators supporting them. |
+1 very true |
Beach friends? Beach Week friends? |
JJJJJustice Kavanaugh delivered the Opinion of the Court. And it’s fffffantastic. |
+ 2 and the voters saw it. |
Which voters? The ones who just want a less racist reason they support Trump? Those ones? "Oh, I just have to support him because Hillary's emails and the way Kav was treated! Not because I'm a disgusting person afraid of America's changing demographics." Same voters, they are lost anyway. No need to chase them down by giving up our values. |
Ford could report it to the police and start a criminal investigation. The police have welcomed her report, should she choose to make it. |
Someone can be a "shitty guy" and still not be guilty of what someone might accuse him of. In this case, the accusations against Kavanaugh have not been corroborated. Witnesses named by the accusers cannot corroborate the accounts, not in any way. You sound a lot like those people who still refuse to accept Obama was born in the US. You're holding on to an article of faith, even when evidence argues otherwise. |
It is not the Republican Senators who exposed Ford, though she asked for her account to be held in confidence. It is not the Republican Senators who dug up and paraded Swetnick around. It is not the Republican Senators who used these women to try to smear a man, exposing them to the world. Being a "shitty guy" has rarely been a disqualifier for anything. I doubt there is anyone who has risen to a high position, public or private, who could not be considered a "shitty" person by several people. One would hope when you're engaging in conversation with others that you can go beyond the fact that you don't like him and offer reasons. Except, I suspect, you won't, since the things people have been throwing at Kavanaugh have been shown to be untrue or not out of the ordinary. Leahy's still doing nothing about that apparently serious perjury. Guess all that was a lie. There go those Senate Democrats again. Ford and Swetnick still not reporting the crimes to the police to launch a criminal investigation. Interesting. All to smear a man who people had committed themselves to hating before he was even nominated. |
A couple of things at issue. Montgomery County police have already responded saying the alleged victim must file a complaint. However, the complaint would not be acted upon because the complaint has to follow the law based on the date of the incident. In this case, the statute of limitations was 1 year. That said, there was no assault. Ford's story is most likely a lie as numerous posters have listed a number of falsehoods in her story. The most basic of which is her attorney's couldn't convince a single family member or friend to lie and say they drove her home or interacted with her back then. No one was willing to perjure themselves on such an idiotic story. |
More of a partisan lens. I did not vote for Trump and would not vote for Trump. I believe Kavanaugh was treated terribly. I also think Warren didn't use her family lore to get a job. I also believe Obama's a natural born US citizen. I also think Garland should have gotten a vote. As someone who is required to follow regulations for protected material, I think it's unreasonable to treat politicians exposing sensitive information differently from how I would be treated. So the whole "but her emails" thing has annoyed me from the beginning because it trivializes the issue on both sides. Some of us don't engage in the one-dimensional my-team-right-or-wrong that some of the rest of you are engaged in. You might want to try it. |
And, yet, you tacitly support him. |
-1 What a load of BS. Talk about a partisan lens. The fact that you equate the Kavanaugh hearings with the easily refuted lies about Obama completely discredits you. There is no comparison. Some people just can't face that he's a shitty guy, because they are too desperate to push through their agenda. Wrong. I would feel the same way about the Kavanaugh hearings regardless of political party (and, fyi, I'm an independent). This man was judged guilty in the court of public opinion, and by all the Democratic senators, with the world watching - and ZERO corroborating evidence. The way he and his family were treated was a travesty. You, and people like you, have completely pissed on the entire concept of innocent until proven guilty. YOU should be ashamed. Ridiculous, and untrue. This was not a criminal trial, but a job interview. He told multiple untruths (not least about his filthy yearbook page--I suppose I am fortunate not to have known men who refer to women in such disgusting ways), and revealed himself, incontrovertibly, to be a conspiracy-spouting partisan who lacks anything approaching reasonably impartial judicial temperament. Which is why the Jesuits, largest Christian Church organization, and the ABA also believed he should not be confirmed. And since the FBI was compelled to limit the investigation, and were not permitted to speak to either his accusers or the list of corroborating witnesses they provided, you really should just shut up. |
+1 Her family member's responses were quite telling. |