Is a wedding at a 'plantation' bad form? or romantic?
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Anonymous
I have no opinion on Georgetown's reparation efforts. The disenfranchisement of African-Americans is shameful. I don't know what the best way is to address the injustice and inequality so many experience - present or past. I'm just trying to understand why it's okay to support universities founded and endowed by slave-profits but it's not okay to support historical plantations. It seems that some on this thread are selective in their judgment and condemnation. They think they're being righteous by condemning plantation events yet they ignore the fact these universities were founded upon slavery. It's either ignorance or hypocrisy that leads them to give universities (and other institutions) a pass. Perhaps, as you say, they're selective slavery apologists. I'm not trying to be snarky (really). I'm interested in a compelling argument as to why these universities are worthy of support and plantations are not. I'll add, the venue fee for a plantation is a tiny fraction of the cost of tuition at one of these slave-founded universities. Yet, these people are focusing on plantations. SMH |
Anonymous
| I’d love it. Gorgeous architecture. Sorry I don’t think about racism 24 hours a day. |
Anonymous
White privilege. Must be nice. |
Anonymous
+1 Who cares that atrocities to humanity were committed there? Gotta have me some faux-Grecian columns. 
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Anonymous
I am a white descendants of slaveowners at a plantation that is now a government-owned museum. Every year there is a reunion for black descendants of enslaved African-Americans who lived on and around the plantation. I've been a few times. We are some of the only white people in the area who go. Everyone is very nice to us and we have had conversations about which ones are blood relatives, etc. Some of them have told me that some descendants dont want to come and others feel it is important to be part of the history of the place. There seems to be a split in opinion. |
Anonymous
Pretty sure 90%+ of posters here are white. Are you really thinking about communities of color or systemic racism or whatever the progressive term is these days 24/7? Give me a break. |
Anonymous
No, but I don't have to think about it 24x7 to think about it when trying to schedule a wedding. I think planning a major event is the type of time to think about whether my black friends or coworkers might be uncomfortable attending a wedding at a plantation that had a history of black slavery. And for the record, I'm Asian, and neither white nor black, but I think about my friends, family and coworkers when I plan a major event that I'm planning. |
Anonymous
Will you pay tuition to a university that was founded, supported and endowed by the profits of slavery? |
Anonymous
Why are you imposing purity tests? Black people were not systematically raped, beaten, and murdered at universities. That did, however, happen at plantations. Further why are you so invested in defending plantations? It’s creepy AF. |
Anonymous
"Purity tests" don't mean what you think they mean. I am not 'defending plantations'. I am calling out your ignorance and hypocrisy in treating universities differently than you treat plantations. Just because you choose to be ignorant about how universities participated in, perpetuated and profited from slavery for over 200 years doesn't mean they get a pass. You willfully ignore what happened at non-plantation institutions because it's convenient and easy for you to do so. It doesn't fit your misguided and outdated ideas about the institution of slavery and how it permeated every level of society in every colony/state. Universities owned slaves, their faculty owned slaves, their directors owned slaves and rich, white slave-owning students brought their slaves with them to the universities. In addition to being slave owners, many directors, donors and student families were directly involved in the slave trade. They owned and captained the ships transporting enslaved Africans in the most barbaric conditions imaginable. They underwrote the insurance policies slave owners held on their 'property'. They provided loans to finance the slave trade. They bought and sold slaves. They certainly raped, beat and murdered slaves. Why in the world would you think slavery was 'practiced' any differently at a university than it was on a plantation? Why do you not evaluate these universities in the same way you have plantations? https://www.brown.edu/Research/Slavery_Justice/documents/SlaveryAndJustice.pdf https://www.apmreports.org/story/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy |
Anonymous
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Slavery and white supremacy are baked into American history, so no, you can't go somewhere that existed at the time of chattel slavery and think "No taint here!"
But all plantations were economic engines that depended on slavery for their existence. Universities could exists without slavery (although arguably they depended on other forms of inequality). So while I agree that we should be mindful of past and current injustices, you can look at elements of some universities and see ways people did good without harming others. Everything at a plantation can be divided into oppressor and oppressed. |
Anonymous
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No college.
No books. No learning. They all stink of white privilege. Nothing ever happened in history other than slavery of some black people. The End. |
Anonymous
Weeeeeelll..... so can just about everything in life when you get down to it. |
Anonymous
Of course I know about the fugitive slave act. But that is not the point. The point is that there were communities of free African Americans in the South, in direct contrast to someone earlier claiming there were no free blacks in the South. https://www.ncpedia.org/sites/default/files/census_stats_1790-1860.pdf While the numbers were pitifully low compared to the 4 million slaves, there were more free blacks in the South than in the North, although close to a 50%/50% split. Maryland had the most of any state, followed with Virginia, and then Pennsylvania. |
Anonymous
Zzzzzzzzzzzz. You're bizarrely defending plantations in order to "own the libs." Your form of stupid hurts so bad that your dead relatives can feel it. Congrats, Lord of House Edgelord. You're pointing out no hypocrisy. We are adult enough to recognize that there are shades of grey when it comes to universities vs. plantations and there involvement in the slave trade. In fact, not an insignificant number of elite Southern families today have wealth due to their ancestors' investments in slavery. But sure, go party at a plantation and post it to IG. None of us are jealous of your moral relativism. And none of us feel bad for attending universities, some of which were tainted by funding from the slave trade. American universities have done more for our national security, economic wealth, and pushing the expansion of civil rights than plantations ever did. Your black-white form of thinking is boring, trite, and unpersuasive. Maybe you should have spent more time in a university? |