Root cause of issues at MOCO schools?

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My understanding is that HS curriculum has been revised (as it regularly is and has been for at least since 2003) outside of the 2.0 brand.

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that HS curriculum has been revised (as it regularly is and has been for at least since 2003) outside of the 2.0 brand.

It was branded as 2.0 as my child went through high school math courses. It really doesn't matter what you call it. The teachers didn't know what to do and the curriculum was crap because it was being developed on the fly.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. 2018 Grads were the high school guinea pigs. Thank God for free resources like Khan academy online. My kids used it almost every night to fill gaps.

You’re either ignorant or pathological liar. Which one is it?

I assume anyone who showed up in 9th grade have 2+ years of C2.0 in ES or MS would suffer as C2.0 guinea pigs. HS may have been a rude awakening, or kid just skated by backing into test answers and study guides and never really mastered anything. MCPS newish policy of only rounding semester grades to a full A, B, or C allowed hundreds per class to have the exact same GPAs. Total joke plus kid doesn't know the materials. Poor to nonexistent C2.0 foundation in K-8 plus skate by 9-12 experience.

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I'd bet a small, nimble district could handle 20% ESOL and 20% FARMS better than a big, giant county district like Montgomery or Fairfax.
At least Fairfax does not have a F'd up curriculum for all of it's non-magnet students.

How about 18% ESOL and 35% FARMs?

A small district with 35% FARMs would be a district that didn't have enough money to handle 20% ESOL and 20% FARMs well.

No school or government or budget can compare to two responsible parents with jobs raising their children right.

What question does your post answer?

I'd say it answers OP's question and all the fluff about ESOl and FARMS. My poor immigrant parents who didn't speak english and didn't receive free lunches or English tutors in grade school in America had two responsible parents who actively raised their children. Everyone learned english, worked hard, paid taxes, stayed in school, graduated, got full-time jobs, never were incarcerated, never on the dole.

I think you are probably dramatically underestimating the amount of assistance your parents and grandparents received, PP, and how quickly they acquired English. https://news.wisc.edu/study-debunks-myth-that-early-immigrants-quickly-learned-english/

That's hilarious, because my German-speaking father was sent home from kindergarten with a note saying, "Please return once you learn English." So he did and returns in 4 mos as a 6 yo.

Where did he live and when did this happen? I’ve heard it before, but none of my relatives (immigrants who came from Russia, Malta, and Japan in the 1920s to the NYC area) say they remember this happening. I’m not doubting you; I’m just curious. That said, they all taught themselves English; none remember having dedicated aides in the schools.

Exactly. And the majority of MCPS budget, aside from personnel, goes to ESOL programs. This is a key reason our taxes went up. If you want more of this nonsense, vote for Floreen.

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Exactly. And the majority of MCPS budget, aside from personnel, goes to ESOL programs. This is a key reason our taxes went up. If you want more of this nonsense, vote for Floreen.

Citation needed.

Also, the county executive has zero control over

1. immigration policy
2. what MCPS spends its money on

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Exactly. And the majority of MCPS budget, aside from personnel, goes to ESOL programs. This is a key reason our taxes went up. If you want more of this nonsense, vote for Floreen.

Citation needed.

Also, the county executive has zero control over

1. immigration policy
2. what MCPS spends its money on

Pray tell, who then has control over what MCPS spends it’s money on?

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Exactly. And the majority of MCPS budget, aside from personnel, goes to ESOL programs. This is a key reason our taxes went up. If you want more of this nonsense, vote for Floreen.

Citation needed.

Also, the county executive has zero control over

1. immigration policy
2. what MCPS spends its money on

I’m definitely not seeing that when I look at the budget.
GT gets more.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/budget/FY17-Program-Budget-Breakdown(2).pdf

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Exactly. And the majority of MCPS budget, aside from personnel, goes to ESOL programs. This is a key reason our taxes went up. If you want more of this nonsense, vote for Floreen.

Citation needed.

Also, the county executive has zero control over

1. immigration policy
2. what MCPS spends its money on

Pray tell, who then has control over what MCPS spends it’s money on?

School Board

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Exactly. And the majority of MCPS budget, aside from personnel, goes to ESOL programs. This is a key reason our taxes went up. If you want more of this nonsense, vote for Floreen.

Citation needed.

Also, the county executive has zero control over

1. immigration policy
2. what MCPS spends its money on

Pray tell, who then has control over what MCPS spends it’s money on?

The Montgomery County Board of Education.

[Anonymous]

One of the main problems in MCPS is the bureaucratic administration verbiage used to really say nothing. Admit there are problems and come up with a plan to fix them. Be open, honest, and demonstrate integrity. Plane and simple. Thinking you can spin issues by using BS words that mean nothing really only makes MCPS look dishonest and incompetent. I've come across this problem in the Special Ed processes, in meetings with school administrators, and presentations to PTA.

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Another serious problem with MCPS is all the parents who prep their kids so that a mediocre child appears slightly gifted in order to game the system.

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Anonymous wrote:Another serious problem with MCPS is all the parents who prep their kids so that a mediocre child appears slightly gifted in order to game the system.

Suppose we start by not referring to children as "mediocre"?

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The Superintendent (and his employees), the Board of Education, the County Council and the County Exec all have a role in “what MCPS spends its money on.” Technically the Council just approves a total number and the Board of Ed controls the distribution, but in really the Council does have the power to influence how the money is spent. All are involved and none has sole responsibility, though the Board of Ed probably has the most responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:The Superintendent (and his employees), the Board of Education, the County Council and the County Exec all have a role in “what MCPS spends its money on.” Technically the Council just approves a total number and the Board of Ed controls the distribution, but in really the Council does have the power to influence how the money is spent. All are involved and none has sole responsibility, though the Board of Ed probably has the most responsibility.

How?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the main problems in MCPS is the bureaucratic administration verbiage used to really say nothing. Admit there are problems and come up with a plan to fix them. Be open, honest, and demonstrate integrity. Plane and simple. Thinking you can spin issues by using BS words that mean nothing really only makes MCPS look dishonest and incompetent. I've come across this problem in the Special Ed processes, in meetings with school administrators, and presentations to PTA.

+100

I’m a parent and I see this and have heard teachers complaining about the same.

Huge lack of accountability.

I do think a lot of this comes from MCPS just being TOO big. We come from a school system that was run by towns and it was so much easier to make change. Easier to make your voice heard. Much more difficult in this horribly large and beauracratic mess that is MCPS.