Now That Iran Has Retaliated Against Israel?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That six billion from Biden to payoff the Iranians for hostages did a world of good for their terrorist state also. Thanks, Joe!

What hostages? Or are you confusing your timelines with Reagan.

U.S. makes deal with Iran to swap prisoners and release $6 billion in frozen money
Politics Sep 11, 2023 4:33 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration has cleared the way for the release of five American citizens detained in Iran by issuing a blanket waiver for international banks to transfer $6 billion in frozen Iranian money from South Korea to Qatar without fear of U.S. sanctions. In addition, as part of the deal, the administration has agreed to release five Iranian citizens held in the United States.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken signed off on the sanctions waivers late last week, a month after U.S. and Iranian officials said an agreement in principle was in place. Congress was not informed of the waiver decision until Monday, according to the notification, which was obtained by The Associated Press.

The outlines of the deal had been previously announced and the waiver was expected. But the notification marked the first time the administration said it was releasing five Iranian prisoners as part of the deal. The prisoners have not been named.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-makes-deal-with-iran-to-swap-prisoners-and-release-6-billion-in-frozen-money

It appears that Iran got its own money back and both countries got their citizens back in a prisoner exchange or if you prefer the terminology, hostage exchange. When you put your money in the bank, do you not expect to retrieve it without someone holding your funds for ransome.

I’m not a funder of terrorism who should be dealt with carefully (read warily), so yeah I think the bank should give me my $.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kinda crazy to read posts from “pro Palestinians” (quotes because who knows o social media and forums what real agendas are) supporting Iran. Iran where there is no religious freedom, few rights for women, people are executed for being gay or perceived as contrary to the Muslim theocracy.

Israel under Netanyahu is not perfect - he’ll no. But women, Arabs, LGBTQ+ people are protected. Those saying “apartheid state” have no factual understanding of Israel and also no concern for the fact that Israel has been under constant attack from terrorist organizations and countries that want its demise - and often explicitly state their desire to eradicated Jews from the world as did Hamas in its charter until 2017.

These are the terrorist groups so many are standing up for.

You have no factual understanding of who is running Israel right now. Women, Arabs and LGBTQ people are at risk right now in Israel because of the crazy right wing extremists who are in power. Netanyahu has allied himself with extremists because his party couldn't come up with a majority of 61 seats in the Knesset. The Religious Zionism Coalition want Israeli Arabs to emigrate, oppose women serving in the IDF, and one prominent leader said he was a "proud homophobe" and the party leaders say things like doctors shouldn't have to provide medical treatment to gays.They are also against non -Orthodox Jews. So it is absolutely ironic that they would not support the majority of Jewish Americans because the vast majority of Jewish American are not Orthodox.

Israel can choose who they want to elect but those elections should have consequences. We should not be sending money to Israel when they elect extremists. Maybe that would influence who Israeli's vote for. Vote for centrists and the money and protection should flow, vote for ultra right wing extremists or have a ruling party that allies itself with the ultra right wing and the money and protection gets cut off.

Israel is at war with IRAN a nation that wants radical Islam to prevail EVERYWHERE not just in the Middle East. If you care about democracy, you will want to support Israel now and then see Netanyahu booted once this nightmare is over. Netanyahu may be awful, but as compared to Khamenei, he is a saint. You can hate Netanyahu and still support Israel in this war they did not want and did not start.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli Air Force is currently intercepting missiles over Al Aqsa. Defending Muslim sites in Israel from Islamic Republic attacks. Jordan has opened its air space to the Israeli Air Force. And yet… the hate for Israel on this thread never stops coming. Would you all prefer another Islamic fundamentalist country if you get your wish for Israel to disappear? Seriously skewed values on exhibit here.

This. Fortunately, if you look at recent surveys, DCUM does not reflect most of the US regarding Israel. Jordan understands the need to support Israel in the fight against Iran. The UAE knows Israel is an important ally.

Oh you must be smoking so good stuff. Israel support is all astroturf and non existent with 98% of the country. Why would any country want to ally with Israel?

Fail. This is indeed reported in official polls. You don’t sound like you know what anyone outside your myopic DMV bubble thinks. For most of America it’s a no-brainer to support the democracy over a terror regime. I’d also bet you and many haters on DCUM have never been to Israel or you wouldn’t have such ignorant misinformed views.

[Anonymous]

I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

Hamas is a proxy for Iran. The WCK deaths were tragic. Under the Obama administration quite a few people in Afghanistan with Doctors without Borders were killed, far more than with WCK and you don't seem to mention that. Furthermore the workers with WCK were out past curfew, a Hamas fighter entered their truck and left and the IDF tried to contact the workers. You are trying to hold Israel to a higher standard than any other country at war.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli Air Force is currently intercepting missiles over Al Aqsa. Defending Muslim sites in Israel from Islamic Republic attacks. Jordan has opened its air space to the Israeli Air Force. And yet… the hate for Israel on this thread never stops coming. Would you all prefer another Islamic fundamentalist country if you get your wish for Israel to disappear? Seriously skewed values on exhibit here.

This. Fortunately, if you look at recent surveys, DCUM does not reflect most of the US regarding Israel. Jordan understands the need to support Israel in the fight against Iran. The UAE knows Israel is an important ally.

Oh you must be smoking so good stuff. Israel support is all astroturf and non existent with 98% of the country. Why would any country want to ally with Israel?

Fail. This is indeed reported in official polls. You don’t sound like you know what anyone outside your myopic DMV bubble thinks. For most of America it’s a no-brainer to support the democracy over a terror regime. I’d also bet you and many haters on DCUM have never been to Israel or you wouldn’t have such ignorant misinformed views.

What democracy? Bibi gutted the judicial system and was on the verge of being ousted until he let Hamas come in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

They certainly did not purposefully and systematically target aid workers. Why would they do that?

And why are they protecting Al Aqsa and other Muslim sites in Israel as we speak if what you say above is true? (Also, that was very racist)

I never understand why some people always want to believe the worst about Israel. It makes no sense to me. There must be some very deeply held inherent biases. Of course Israel is not perfect, no country is. But why hold them to an impossible standard that no other country is held to?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli Air Force is currently intercepting missiles over Al Aqsa. Defending Muslim sites in Israel from Islamic Republic attacks. Jordan has opened its air space to the Israeli Air Force. And yet… the hate for Israel on this thread never stops coming. Would you all prefer another Islamic fundamentalist country if you get your wish for Israel to disappear? Seriously skewed values on exhibit here.

This. Fortunately, if you look at recent surveys, DCUM does not reflect most of the US regarding Israel. Jordan understands the need to support Israel in the fight against Iran. The UAE knows Israel is an important ally.

Oh you must be smoking so good stuff. Israel support is all astroturf and non existent with 98% of the country. Why would any country want to ally with Israel?

Fail. This is indeed reported in official polls. You don’t sound like you know what anyone outside your myopic DMV bubble thinks. For most of America it’s a no-brainer to support the democracy over a terror regime. I’d also bet you and many haters on DCUM have never been to Israel or you wouldn’t have such ignorant misinformed views.

What democracy? Bibi gutted the judicial system and was on the verge of being ousted until he let Hamas come in.

Which is the hallmark of… a democracy.

[Anonymous]

And what do you mean, let Hamas come in?! More conspiracy theories?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

They certainly did not purposefully and systematically target aid workers. Why would they do that?

And why are they protecting Al Aqsa and other Muslim sites in Israel as we speak if what you say above is true? (Also, that was very racist)

I never understand why some people always want to believe the worst about Israel. It makes no sense to me. There must be some very deeply held inherent biases. Of course Israel is not perfect, no country is. But why hold them to an impossible standard that no other country is held to?

They’ve stopped the equivalent of 3 nukes on Gaza. Have you watched the interview with Jose Andres about how their cars were blown up?

Why does everyone want to believe the worst in Iran? Maybe they want nukes to protect themselves…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

They certainly did not purposefully and systematically target aid workers. Why would they do that?

And why are they protecting Al Aqsa and other Muslim sites in Israel as we speak if what you say above is true? (Also, that was very racist)

I never understand why some people always want to believe the worst about Israel. It makes no sense to me. There must be some very deeply held inherent biases. Of course Israel is not perfect, no country is. But why hold them to an impossible standard that no other country is held to?

This! Did they question Obama when far more members of Doctors without Borders were bombed. The IDF took responsibility and there were violations of protocol by the workers. Sorry you don't get to hold Israel to a different standard than everyone else.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/world/asia/obama-apologizes-for-bombing-of-afghanistan-hospital.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

They certainly did not purposefully and systematically target aid workers. Why would they do that?

And why are they protecting Al Aqsa and other Muslim sites in Israel as we speak if what you say above is true? (Also, that was very racist)

I never understand why some people always want to believe the worst about Israel. It makes no sense to me. There must be some very deeply held inherent biases. Of course Israel is not perfect, no country is. But why hold them to an impossible standard that no other country is held to?

They’ve stopped the equivalent of 3 nukes on Gaza. Have you watched the interview with Jose Andres about how their cars were blown up?

Why does everyone want to believe the worst in Iran? Maybe they want nukes to protect themselves…

They have not dropped the equivalent of three nukes.

It is obvious Jose Andres should be very upset but he made a very irresponsible statement. He is operating in a war zone and tragic mistakes happen.

Your last statement is nonsensical. It’s Iran threatening Death to Israel and Death to America, not the other way around. Maybe you should talk to Iranian people, who don’t support this murderous regime. Or have you not been following the events of the past year and all the executions the regime has carried out.

Supporting the Islamic Regime in Iran is an absolutely crazy position to take.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Israel allowed to attack hospitals, schools, aid convoys, embassies, etc.? Their excuses are wearing thin.

Are you talking about the hospitals and schools in Gaza which have already been shown to have HAMAS terrorists and weapons. Have you read the articles and seen the interviews with captured terrorists. This is fact, not hypothesis.

Yeah, those premature babies were obviously terrorists. It’s a good thing they’re dead now. /s

Obviously nobody is saying the babies are terrorists, but it is fact that terrorists were using hospitals. This has actually been known for years, though there has been plenty of recent news. Hamas chooses to use innocent children as human shields. I am outraged to see any innocent child die too and I put blame where it belongs on HAMAS a terrorist organization that gets considerable support from Iran and Qatar.

So soldiers can go in and take the risk, to separate babies from bad guys,

You don’t shoot (bomb) first and seek forgiveness later.

They are used as human shields. Release the hostages and dismantle Hamas and this all could have been avoided. Also, these children are being indoctrinated to be terrorists as soon as they talk. It's child abuse. War is awful and nobody wants to see babies die, but the blame falls on Hamas.

So, are you kind of saying, the babies are terrorists-in-training, so their slaughter is not as bad as it sounds?

The people to blame for the killed babies are the men who are literally killing them.

Talk about gaslighting!!

[Anonymous]

Iran is responded (as they should) to an attack on Iranian leaders on Iranian soil (the consulate in Syria). Had another country attack a US consulate in any country, I would demand the US government respond in a way design to inflict minor amounts of damage and target those responsible. Launching 200 missiles sounds like overkill, but it’s the necessary amount to get a small proportion to actually land. This is a very appropriate military response by a sovereign nation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Israel bombed the Iranian consulate purely to elicit a response from Iran that would make every American forget that the IDF purposefully and systematically targeted a US citizens among several aid workers in WCK.

Israel will bomb you if they have an inkling that there’s an A-RAB with a gun in your vicinity. This is no ally of mine. Iran had every right to respond the way they did this evening. You attack a consulate. You attack a country.

Hamas is a proxy for Iran. The WCK deaths were tragic. Under the Obama administration quite a few people in Afghanistan with Doctors without Borders were killed, far more than with WCK and you don't seem to mention that. Furthermore the workers with WCK were out past curfew, a Hamas fighter entered their truck and left and the IDF tried to contact the workers. You are trying to hold Israel to a higher standard than any other country at war.

I’m not sure the ratio of US civilians to militants killed has been 3:1 in any war…