Secondary school BATHROOMS

[Anonymous]

As a data point, I'll note that we had a bunch of students at our elementary school busted for vaping in the bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, I'll note that we had a bunch of students at our elementary school busted for vaping in the bathrooms.

That must be one tough ES. Our MS doesn't even have that stuff yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, I'll note that we had a bunch of students at our elementary school busted for vaping in the bathrooms.

That must be one tough ES. Our MS doesn't even have that stuff yet.

You are very naive if you think that's not happening. Even the best middle schools are having vaping issues. Bring back consequences for disruptive and damaging actions and you can keep the bathrooms open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Call them bathroom kings or queens, whatever. Just get a paid adult in there so students who actually need to use a toilet can do so without working around skipping class students hogging up space and lunch time loungers.

Ha! You think students will listen to an adult. Anytime I try to reprimand a kid per school protocol they get right up in my face and tell me “Did that feel good sending that email?”

Kids today are mean and nasty. They have spent their whole lives so far being allowed to do whatever they want without consequence. Many of their parents aren’t much better

+1 they typically get their attitudes from their parents. You see parents talking smack about or rudely to teachers right in front of the kids; of course the kids are going to end up speaking that way to the teachers, as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, I'll note that we had a bunch of students at our elementary school busted for vaping in the bathrooms.

That must be one tough ES. Our MS doesn't even have that stuff yet.

You are very naive if you think that's not happening. Even the best middle schools are having vaping issues. Bring back consequences for disruptive and damaging actions and you can keep the bathrooms open.

That's false. I work at an MS where it isn't going on. Simply dismissing others' lived experiences because it doesn't suit your preferred narrative is what is naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, I'll note that we had a bunch of students at our elementary school busted for vaping in the bathrooms.

That must be one tough ES. Our MS doesn't even have that stuff yet.

Which MS is that? Seems very unlikely, but I could be wrong.

Our ES sent home a letter last year because there were 5th graders vaping. Maybe the same school as PP, or maybe not because I have talked to my kids’ soccer friends at different schools who have also reported vaping in ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a data point, I'll note that we had a bunch of students at our elementary school busted for vaping in the bathrooms.

That must be one tough ES. Our MS doesn't even have that stuff yet.

You are very naive if you think that's not happening. Even the best middle schools are having vaping issues. Bring back consequences for disruptive and damaging actions and you can keep the bathrooms open.

That's false. I work at an MS where it isn't going on. Simply dismissing others' lived experiences because it doesn't suit your preferred narrative is what is naive.

Which one? I’m interested to hear which MS does not have this issue? What are they doing to prevent vaping that our MS is not doing? How can our MS keep kids from flagrantly vaping at school?? It seems insurmountable.

[Anonymous]

What changes if any have your HSs made recently to improve bathroom access and move out unwanted school bathroom dwellers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What changes if any have your HSs made recently to improve bathroom access and move out unwanted school bathroom dwellers?

If they just make them genderless bathrooms, they could handle more volume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What changes if any have your HSs made recently to improve bathroom access and move out unwanted school bathroom dwellers?

No changes made. What makes you think any MCPS schools are making changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What changes if any have your HSs made recently to improve bathroom access and move out unwanted school bathroom dwellers?

If they just make them genderless bathrooms, they could handle more volume.

But make it harder to make sure kids aren’t having sex in the stalls. That’s already a small problem I think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the PTSAs for these schools saying/doing about it?

At BCC we are trying to get parents to volunteer around lunch time to free staff so they can open/monitor bathrooms.

I am not sure how bad it is at other high schools but BCC is horrific. Often we are told it was just one bathroom that was closed for maintenance but the kids tell us almost all of them are locked.
It's demeaning and a health issue.

How are kids supposed to study if they are uncomfortable?

[Anonymous]

As a teacher I openly mock the vapers and point out they are likely addicted for life. The teenage brain is highly affect by anything that affects it. If anything we should feel sorry for the kids hanging out in a shit-room trying to get high. The major problem is that it drastically inconveniences everyone else in a way that those here probably not experienced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Posted in the thread Safety in Schools but it could be its own thread.

What is the situation with locked bathrooms at some (all?) mcps high schools? Some of these schools have over 2000 humans who need access to bathrooms. Where do students go when lines to the bathrooms are long to last the entire lunch period? Not all high schools have open lunch for students to go use a bathroom at a nearby establishment. Can you share your kids experiences at their high school?

Maybe this is a W school thing or something but we don't have these issues at our DCC school.

I have kids at two different DCC schools and they refuse to use the bathrooms. Say they are gross and unsafe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the PTSAs for these schools saying/doing about it?

At BCC we are trying to get parents to volunteer around lunch time to free staff so they can open/monitor bathrooms.

I am not sure how bad it is at other high schools but BCC is horrific. Often we are told it was just one bathroom that was closed for maintenance but the kids tell us almost all of them are locked.
It's demeaning and a health issue.

How are kids supposed to study if they are uncomfortable?

That is not a sustainable nor appropriate to solve that solution.

Parents aren’t trained to do security and shouldn’t be in positions to do that kind of work.