If you are wealthy would you send your kids to a W school over private?

[Anonymous]

This really depends on the private.
Aside from the big 5s, there are some very lackluster privates that you couldn't pay me to send my child to.
A neighbor turned down an offer from a no-name private for her sporty son.
People hear private ans start drooling but it is like anything else. There is a continuum of best to worst.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

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It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

It's rare because people generally don't apply.

In our tiny little Catholic school with a class of 24 students, one student applied and got into a magnet (Poolesville). The others didn't apply to magnets because they are mainly interested in private school education, in most cases specifically Catholic. Most got into the top Catholic high schools in the area, including Georgetown Prep, Stone Ridge, and Visitation.

This is one example. it's hard to form a AIM level math in private due to such tiny numbers. there may be just 1 or 2 students who would be able to handle that level. It's just a distribution curve.

I don't think private or public is better in all cases. Different kids have different need.

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Anonymous wrote:This really depends on the private.
Aside from the big 5s, there are some very lackluster privates that you couldn't pay me to send my child to.
A neighbor turned down an offer from a no-name private for her sporty son.
People hear private ans start drooling but it is like anything else. There is a continuum of best to worst.

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Private does not mean that they are all good. Some private's are going to be really bad and some will be really good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do private kids take MAP math test?

It will be easier to see the levels and compare. AIM math was pretty good. I am a math enthusiasts and liked what I saw in public in AIM math in middle school. Just based on what I heard, I don't have sample data, majority of kids were in 95 to 99 percentile in MAP test in AIM math class. Now it hardly means that pubic is better. It simply means that they have a large enough population to form a class for math kids who are really good in math. Not sure you can find enough kids to offer such classes in private.

Once again, private schools offer advanced math classes. We’ve been through this so many times.

The fact that you don’t even know whether private school kids take MAP tests shows me you know nothing about these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

+1

It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

It's rare because people generally don't apply.

In our tiny little Catholic school with a class of 24 students, one student applied and got into a magnet (Poolesville). The others didn't apply to magnets because they are mainly interested in private school education, in most cases specifically Catholic. Most got into the top Catholic high schools in the area, including Georgetown Prep, Stone Ridge, and Visitation.

This is one example. it's hard to form a AIM level math in private due to such tiny numbers. there may be just 1 or 2 students who would be able to handle that level. It's just a distribution curve.

I don't think private or public is better in all cases. Different kids have different need.

I hate to break it to you, but math is not the only subject taught in school. As mentioned in another post, MCPS does English really badly, so you may think it's great you are getting great math instruction, but your English instruction is lacking.

That said, my tiny Catholic school had half of its 8th graders in higher level math who entered 9th grade doing Algebra 2 with one entering in pre-calc. These kids would be fine in magnet schools. The other half mainly entered 9th in geometry...maybe one or two in Alg. I. These kids didn't just get pushed into it either. They all had to have assessments in their new private schools in order to place into those classes. And guess what...they also have exemplary reading, writing, grammar, and vocabulary skills that are lacking in public schools.

I will point out that while we are talking about W schools here, the rankings of DC area schools by Niche place only one W school in the top 20, and that is Whitman. There are two other public schools in the top 20 -- Thomas Jefferson and Poolesville. The rest are all private schools. I rest my case. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

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It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

Would love proof of this. Doubt you have any.

Not the PP, but out kid shifted from private to public. He was considered good in math in private, but good in large public were at a higher level.

The top 1% of 10M is going to be at much higher level than the top 1% of 1M. It's simple stats.

That’s not at all what stats say. It depends entirely on the population you’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

+1

It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

It's rare because people generally don't apply.

In our tiny little Catholic school with a class of 24 students, one student applied and got into a magnet (Poolesville). The others didn't apply to magnets because they are mainly interested in private school education, in most cases specifically Catholic. Most got into the top Catholic high schools in the area, including Georgetown Prep, Stone Ridge, and Visitation.

This is one example. it's hard to form a AIM level math in private due to such tiny numbers. there may be just 1 or 2 students who would be able to handle that level. It's just a distribution curve.

I don't think private or public is better in all cases. Different kids have different need.

I hate to break it to you, but math is not the only subject taught in school. As mentioned in another post, MCPS does English really badly, so you may think it's great you are getting great math instruction, but your English instruction is lacking.

That said, my tiny Catholic school had half of its 8th graders in higher level math who entered 9th grade doing Algebra 2 with one entering in pre-calc. These kids would be fine in magnet schools. The other half mainly entered 9th in geometry...maybe one or two in Alg. I. These kids didn't just get pushed into it either. They all had to have assessments in their new private schools in order to place into those classes. And guess what...they also have exemplary reading, writing, grammar, and vocabulary skills that are lacking in public schools.

I will point out that while we are talking about W schools here, the rankings of DC area schools by Niche place only one W school in the top 20, and that is Whitman. There are two other public schools in the top 20 -- Thomas Jefferson and Poolesville. The rest are all private schools. I rest my case. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

Just wait — they’ll tell you Niche is BS, because it doesn’t confirm what they want to believe.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

+1

It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

Would love proof of this. Doubt you have any.

Not the PP, but out kid shifted from private to public. He was considered good in math in private, but good in large public were at a higher level.

The top 1% of 10M is going to be at much higher level than the top 1% of 1M. It's simple stats.

That’s not at all what stats say. It depends entirely on the population you’re talking about.

If you are implying that population going to private is inherently smarter then I don't know what to say. Distribution curve is going to be similar in public and private. There will be top students in both and there will be poor students in both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's about money but also exposing kids to the real world in a controlled situation.

I am worth millions, personally, but it's in assets, not income. My income is actually quite low. I never wanted to spend my capital on private school, but I was prepared to spend a small portion of it on a house in a wealthy school cluster, since after my kids are done with school, I still have real estate. I have one kid with special needs and one without. For my kid with SN, I feel that our W public with services and accommodations + close parenting + tutoring and therapies has been the optimal solution. The one without is gifted and would have thrived in any school.

I'm also a product of reputable private schools, and getting out of that bubble into the real world was quite an experience. I'd rather my kids go to a wealthy public where they have gentle exposure to actual Life.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

But when was the last time they actually offered these classes?
Been there, done that, moved on far away from the marketing plot.

It’s clear to me you’ll desperately hang onto your belief, regardless of what evidence anyone puts in front of you. If I told you they offered it every year, you’d tell me, “well how long will that last?”

Np. Most privates don’t offer those classes. Might be an online course or some other access, but they don’t really offer these because most private school kids are not on an accelerated math track. This was a big consideration for DS going to public high school.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

+1

It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

Would love proof of this. Doubt you have any.

Not the PP, but out kid shifted from private to public. He was considered good in math in private, but good in large public were at a higher level.

The top 1% of 10M is going to be at much higher level than the top 1% of 1M. It's simple stats.

That’s not at all what stats say. It depends entirely on the population you’re talking about.

If you are implying that population going to private is inherently smarter then I don't know what to say. Distribution curve is going to be similar in public and private. There will be top students in both and there will be poor students in both.

No. I’m saying a larger population does not mean the top 1% will necessarily be better.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

But when was the last time they actually offered these classes?
Been there, done that, moved on far away from the marketing plot.

It’s clear to me you’ll desperately hang onto your belief, regardless of what evidence anyone puts in front of you. If I told you they offered it every year, you’d tell me, “well how long will that last?”

Np. Most privates don’t offer those classes. Might be an online course or some other access, but they don’t really offer these because most private school kids are not on an accelerated math track. This was a big consideration for DS going to public high school.

We have been over this SO many times.

We have posted SO many course catalogs.

Why do you continue to ignore facts?

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

But when was the last time they actually offered these classes?
Been there, done that, moved on far away from the marketing plot.

It’s clear to me you’ll desperately hang onto your belief, regardless of what evidence anyone puts in front of you. If I told you they offered it every year, you’d tell me, “well how long will that last?”

Np. Most privates don’t offer those classes. Might be an online course or some other access, but they don’t really offer these because most private school kids are not on an accelerated math track. This was a big consideration for DS going to public high school.

Our private all girls high school has accelerated math that seemed to be good enough to get one girl into MIT last year. I know you think if you keep repeating something over and over, it will be true. But facts are facts.

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Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to me about STEM magnet programs because private school kids go to those as well. I mean non-magnet.

Very few, if any in most years. Private school kids are usually much farther behind at that point.

+1

It's harder from private to Magnet due to gap being too large. Some may still make it but it's rare.

It's rare because people generally don't apply.

In our tiny little Catholic school with a class of 24 students, one student applied and got into a magnet (Poolesville). The others didn't apply to magnets because they are mainly interested in private school education, in most cases specifically Catholic. Most got into the top Catholic high schools in the area, including Georgetown Prep, Stone Ridge, and Visitation.

This is one example. it's hard to form a AIM level math in private due to such tiny numbers. there may be just 1 or 2 students who would be able to handle that level. It's just a distribution curve.

I don't think private or public is better in all cases. Different kids have different need.

I hate to break it to you, but math is not the only subject taught in school. As mentioned in another post, MCPS does English really badly, so you may think it's great you are getting great math instruction, but your English instruction is lacking.

That said, my tiny Catholic school had half of its 8th graders in higher level math who entered 9th grade doing Algebra 2 with one entering in pre-calc. These kids would be fine in magnet schools. The other half mainly entered 9th in geometry...maybe one or two in Alg. I. These kids didn't just get pushed into it either. They all had to have assessments in their new private schools in order to place into those classes. And guess what...they also have exemplary reading, writing, grammar, and vocabulary skills that are lacking in public schools.

I will point out that while we are talking about W schools here, the rankings of DC area schools by Niche place only one W school in the top 20, and that is Whitman. There are two other public schools in the top 20 -- Thomas Jefferson and Poolesville. The rest are all private schools. I rest my case. https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-high-schools/m/washington-dc-metro-area/

Not the PP.

Well, it looks like your tiny catholic is an exception. I am private school teacher in well regarded private and it's not the norm.

[Anonymous]

Oh and if you’re referring to Maret when you say online classes, you did not read carefully. Kids at Stanford Online HS access Maret classes online. No one at Maret is taking online classes.