No more masks at VA privates?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Schools can do anything they want to. I wouldn’t expect any changes.


Good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Looks like a very serious and well documented article from a reliable publication.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, we’re better off every time an alt-right COVID denier, anti-vaxxer on air personality dies. The schadenfreude is real.

We’re so done with dumb. But eventually Darwin will win.

Your kid eating outside in fresh cold air will be just fine. Perhaps my aunt won’t be if she got a breakthrough case.

There are facts. And the only ones politicizing it are dying on a hill of supposedly owning libs.



Last time I checked, there wasn't a cure for death. It will happen to all of us.

It is also time for you to stop - I'm also a liberal. Have you seen that many of "our" people have started to question how these policies are hurting the most vulnerable population. The people we are supposed to fight for who can't fight for themselves. Start by watching Bill Maher and his guests. There are plenty of others. It is time WE take control of the narrative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Private school teachers with health conditions are now on notice apparently. Guess they will have to decide whether to risk it or quit.


Pregnant teachers and those trying to conceive, especially.

And the people who came after a career in another field who are in their 50s and 60s.

...That's just about everyone.


COVID has even increased stillbirths. I thought the Catholic Church cared about the unborn.


Stillbirths and birth complications increased a lot. BUT, are you sure it's just covid? It could be covid shot also. My coworker who got the covid shot during pregnancy just delivered a 3 pound baby. No covid history.

I learnt growth can be an issue with covid shot. Not all babies suffer from it, but some may. Research should investigate the effect of covid on a pregnant mom/baby, and the effect of covid shot on mom/baby. Until we know research results we cannot know for sure.


You are not qualified to make this assessment.


The poster says that there should be research into this, and you are saying "you are not qualified to make this assessment". To me, it sounds like you lack the qualifications. Anyway, if you are interested, read the reports coming out that show increase in stillbirths and other birth complications. Scotland government statistics recently made it into headlines there. It does looks scary. And yes, there should be research done on this. Anyone is qualified to demand that.

Stop trying to shut people out. People are done with your type of thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Looks like a very serious and well documented article from a reliable publication.


The New York Times says it is far more risky to let your kid swim in a pool or drive in a car?

No way to grow up
American children are starting 2022 in crisis.

I have long been aware that the pandemic was upending children’s lives. But until I spent time pulling together data and reading reports, I did not understand just how alarming the situation had become.

Today’s newsletter offers an overview of that crisis.

The toll
Children fell far behind in school during the first year of the pandemic and have not caught up. Among third through eighth graders, math and reading levels were all lower than normal this fall, according to NWEA, a research group. The shortfalls were largest for Black and Hispanic students, as well as students in schools with high poverty rates.

“We haven’t seen this kind of academic achievement crisis in living memory,” Michael Petrilli of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute told Politico.

Many children and teenagers are experiencing mental health problems, aggravated by the isolation and disruption of the pandemic. Three medical groups, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, recently declared a national state of emergency in children’s mental health. They cited “dramatic increases in emergency department visits for all mental health emergencies.”

Suicide attempts have risen, slightly among adolescent boys and sharply among adolescent girls. The number of E.R. visits for suspected suicide attempts by 12- to 17-year-old girls rose by 51 percent from early 2019 to early 2021, according to the C.D.C.

Gun violence against children has increased, as part of a broader nationwide rise in crime. In Chicago, for example, 101 residents under age 20 were murdered last year, up from 76 in 2019. School shootings have also risen: The Washington Post counted 42 last year in the U.S., the most on record and up from 27 in 2019.

Many schools have still not returned to normal, worsening learning loss and social isolation. Once-normal aspects of school life — lunchtime, extracurricular activities, assemblies, school trips, parent-teacher conferences, reliable bus schedules — have been transformed if not eliminated.

When The Morning asked parents and teachers about the situation in their local schools, we heard an outpouring of anguish:

“This is no way for children to grow up,” Jackie Irwin, a reader in Oklahoma, told us. “It is maddening.”
“For so many kids, school represents a safe, comfortable, reliable place, but not for nearly two years now,” Lisa Durstin of Strafford, Vt., said.
“A lot of the joy and camaraderie that signifies a happy, productive school culture has disappeared,” said Maria Menconi, a schools consultant and former superintendent based in Arizona.
Behavior problems have increased. “Schools across the country say they’re seeing an uptick in disruptive behaviors,” Kalyn Belsha of Chalkbeat reported. “Some are obvious and visible, like students trashing bathrooms, fighting over social media posts or running out of classrooms. Others are quieter calls for help, like students putting their head down and refusing to talk.”

Kelli Tuttle, a teacher in Madison, Wis., told us, “There is a lot of swearing, vandalism and some fights.” A teacher in Northern California said she had witnessed the “meanest, most inappropriate comments to teachers” in her 15 years of working in schools.

The Omicron variant is now scrambling children’s lives again. Most schools have stayed open this week, but many have canceled sports, plays and other activities. Some districts have closed schools, for a day or more, despite evidence that most children struggle to learn remotely, as my colleague Dana Goldstein reports. Closings are taking place in Atlanta, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Newark and several New York City suburbs, among other places.

“It’s chaos,” Keri Rodrigues, president of the National Parents Union, told Dana. “The No. 1 thing that parents and families are crying out for is stability.”


Students outside Oxford High School in Michigan after a shooting last month.Nick Hagen for The New York Times
Hard choices
For the past two years, large parts of American society have decided harming children was an unavoidable side effect of Covid-19. And that was probably true in the spring of 2020, when nearly all of society shut down to slow the spread of a deadly and mysterious virus.

But the approach has been less defensible for the past year and a half, as we have learned more about both Covid and the extent of children’s suffering from pandemic restrictions.

Data now suggest that many changes to school routines are of questionable value in controlling the virus’s spread. Some researchers are skeptical that school closures reduce Covid cases in most instances. Other interventions, like forcing students to sit apart from their friends at lunch, may also have little benefit.

One reason: Severe versions of Covid, including long Covid, are extremely rare in children. For them, the virus resembles a typical flu. Children face more risk from car rides than Covid.

The widespread availability of vaccines since last spring also raises an ethical question: Should children suffer to protect unvaccinated adults — who are voluntarily accepting Covid risk for themselves and increasing everybody else’s risk, too? Right now, the U.S. is effectively saying yes.

To be clear, there are some hard decisions and unavoidable trade-offs. Covid can lead to hospitalization or worse for a small percentage of vaccinated adults, especially those who are older or immunocompromised, and allowing children to resume normal life could create additional risk. The Omicron surge may well heighten that risk, leaving schools with no attractive options.

For the past two years, however, many communities in the U.S. have not really grappled with the trade-off. They have tried to minimize the spread of Covid — a worthy goal absent other factors — rather than minimizing the damage that Covid does to society. They have accepted more harm to children in exchange for less harm to adults, often without acknowledging the dilemma or assessing which decisions lead to less overall harm.

Given the choices that the country has made, it should not be surprising that children are suffering so much.

Related: Polls show that Americans are worn out and frustrated by the pandemic, Blake Hounshell and Leah Askarinam explain in the first edition of the new On Politics newsletter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Looks like a very serious and well documented article from a reliable publication.


You are implying the link is not trustworthy. If so, you can listen to their politicians talking to public about this..
But oh, you did not see those news on the mainstream media here? I forgot how censored the mainstream media is in this country for a second. Sorry for you.
Continue your deep deep sleep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Looks like a very serious and well documented article from a reliable publication.


Sorry!! I meant to link not cut and paste..

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/briefing/american-children-crisis-pandemic.html?smid=url-share
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously didn’t name the school for a reason, but not a loony ”fundy Christian or Islamic” either. Fully enrolled, wait list only. Not an anti-vaxxer. Entire family is fully vaccinated and boosted. Again, no shutdowns and no COVID for DC or any of his classmates. You are showing your ignorance with your assumptions.


Is there testing done weekly? If not, maybe that’s why school says there are no cases.


I never said that there were no cases. I said that there were no closures. No testing. Treating COVID like the endemic virus that it is. When your child is sick, you are asked to keep them at home. When they are no longer symptomatic, they can return to school, no questions asked. Of course kids have had COVID, but there have been no massive outbreaks in the school or the school community at large.


I wish I knew where this was so we could move and enroll!!!! So jealous you found one. I've been looking for months
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Until the good ol’ USofA has the same social safety nets as those countries — universal health care, generous time off, child care, etc— comparisons are mostly meaningless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Looks like a very serious and well documented article from a reliable publication.


The New York Times says it is far more risky to let your kid swim in a pool or drive in a car?

No way to grow up
American children are starting 2022 in crisis.

I have long been aware that the pandemic was upending children’s lives. But until I spent time pulling together data and reading reports, I did not understand just how alarming the situation had become.

Today’s newsletter offers an overview of that crisis.

The toll
Children fell far behind in school during the first year of the pandemic and have not caught up. Among third through eighth graders, math and reading levels were all lower than normal this fall, according to NWEA, a research group. The shortfalls were largest for Black and Hispanic students, as well as students in schools with high poverty rates.

“We haven’t seen this kind of academic achievement crisis in living memory,” Michael Petrilli of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute told Politico.

Many children and teenagers are experiencing mental health problems, aggravated by the isolation and disruption of the pandemic. Three medical groups, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, recently declared a national state of emergency in children’s mental health. They cited “dramatic increases in emergency department visits for all mental health emergencies.”

Suicide attempts have risen, slightly among adolescent boys and sharply among adolescent girls. The number of E.R. visits for suspected suicide attempts by 12- to 17-year-old girls rose by 51 percent from early 2019 to early 2021, according to the C.D.C.

Gun violence against children has increased, as part of a broader nationwide rise in crime. In Chicago, for example, 101 residents under age 20 were murdered last year, up from 76 in 2019. School shootings have also risen: The Washington Post counted 42 last year in the U.S., the most on record and up from 27 in 2019.

Many schools have still not returned to normal, worsening learning loss and social isolation. Once-normal aspects of school life — lunchtime, extracurricular activities, assemblies, school trips, parent-teacher conferences, reliable bus schedules — have been transformed if not eliminated.

When The Morning asked parents and teachers about the situation in their local schools, we heard an outpouring of anguish:

“This is no way for children to grow up,” Jackie Irwin, a reader in Oklahoma, told us. “It is maddening.”
“For so many kids, school represents a safe, comfortable, reliable place, but not for nearly two years now,” Lisa Durstin of Strafford, Vt., said.
“A lot of the joy and camaraderie that signifies a happy, productive school culture has disappeared,” said Maria Menconi, a schools consultant and former superintendent based in Arizona.
Behavior problems have increased. “Schools across the country say they’re seeing an uptick in disruptive behaviors,” Kalyn Belsha of Chalkbeat reported. “Some are obvious and visible, like students trashing bathrooms, fighting over social media posts or running out of classrooms. Others are quieter calls for help, like students putting their head down and refusing to talk.”

Kelli Tuttle, a teacher in Madison, Wis., told us, “There is a lot of swearing, vandalism and some fights.” A teacher in Northern California said she had witnessed the “meanest, most inappropriate comments to teachers” in her 15 years of working in schools.

The Omicron variant is now scrambling children’s lives again. Most schools have stayed open this week, but many have canceled sports, plays and other activities. Some districts have closed schools, for a day or more, despite evidence that most children struggle to learn remotely, as my colleague Dana Goldstein reports. Closings are taking place in Atlanta, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Newark and several New York City suburbs, among other places.

“It’s chaos,” Keri Rodrigues, president of the National Parents Union, told Dana. “The No. 1 thing that parents and families are crying out for is stability.”


Students outside Oxford High School in Michigan after a shooting last month.Nick Hagen for The New York Times
Hard choices
For the past two years, large parts of American society have decided harming children was an unavoidable side effect of Covid-19. And that was probably true in the spring of 2020, when nearly all of society shut down to slow the spread of a deadly and mysterious virus.

But the approach has been less defensible for the past year and a half, as we have learned more about both Covid and the extent of children’s suffering from pandemic restrictions.

Data now suggest that many changes to school routines are of questionable value in controlling the virus’s spread. Some researchers are skeptical that school closures reduce Covid cases in most instances. Other interventions, like forcing students to sit apart from their friends at lunch, may also have little benefit.

One reason: Severe versions of Covid, including long Covid, are extremely rare in children. For them, the virus resembles a typical flu. Children face more risk from car rides than Covid.

The widespread availability of vaccines since last spring also raises an ethical question: Should children suffer to protect unvaccinated adults — who are voluntarily accepting Covid risk for themselves and increasing everybody else’s risk, too? Right now, the U.S. is effectively saying yes.

To be clear, there are some hard decisions and unavoidable trade-offs. Covid can lead to hospitalization or worse for a small percentage of vaccinated adults, especially those who are older or immunocompromised, and allowing children to resume normal life could create additional risk. The Omicron surge may well heighten that risk, leaving schools with no attractive options.

For the past two years, however, many communities in the U.S. have not really grappled with the trade-off. They have tried to minimize the spread of Covid — a worthy goal absent other factors — rather than minimizing the damage that Covid does to society. They have accepted more harm to children in exchange for less harm to adults, often without acknowledging the dilemma or assessing which decisions lead to less overall harm.

Given the choices that the country has made, it should not be surprising that children are suffering so much.

Related: Polls show that Americans are worn out and frustrated by the pandemic, Blake Hounshell and Leah Askarinam explain in the first edition of the new On Politics newsletter.


Nice cute and paste but tldnr
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools can do anything they want to. I wouldn’t expect any changes.


Good.


Plus 1. Use science
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Until the good ol’ USofA has the same social safety nets as those countries — universal health care, generous time off, child care, etc— comparisons are mostly meaningless.


We are already treating people bad in the USA compared to Europe, so that requires that for the pandemic we treat them worse here again compared to Europe?!?
Wow. You left me speechless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you read this?

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/cult-masked-schoolchildren

And have you seen that several European countries are ending all mandates? But they are stupid and obtuse too, right? Maybe ask your pediatrician before you decide....



Until the good ol’ USofA has the same social safety nets as those countries — universal health care, generous time off, child care, etc— comparisons are mostly meaningless.


We are already treating people bad in the USA compared to Europe, so that requires that for the pandemic we treat them worse here again compared to Europe?!?
Wow. You left me speechless.


Yeah that was such a lame response.

Positive signs from the UK dropping all the COVID mask and vaccine requirements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread but just saw that the Arlington Diocese is adopting Youngkin’s opt out policy for masks. That is pretty much all Catholic schools in Northern Virginia. Any NOVA independent schools doing the same?


No, not the respectable ones.


+1

Only the religious and RWNJ schools.

None of the good ones.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools can do anything they want to. I wouldn’t expect any changes.


Good.


Plus 1. Use science


Unless your school is science challenged.
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