When is it just rude? A job search rant

[Anonymous]

I'll start by saying that I understand job searching is tough and that it isn't an inherently personal situation (meaning the normal rules of interpersonal interaction don't necessarily apply).

That said, is there a point where the lack of communication crosses the line and just becomes rude? I have met with multiple people in a company for interviews. I'm talking multiple visits to the office, multiple time off from current job to get to said multiple visits/interviews. This process has taken a couple of months. After every interview, I have sent thank you notes. I have followed up with the typical job-searcher "checking in" emails just to ping the hiring manager. No thank you note has been acknowledged (fine), none of the follow up emails have been returned. I'm not fragile or naive - I get that these are not good signs ( )...but at some point isn't it just rude to drag someone along the interview process over months and many interviews and not have the courtesy to simply communicate in any way?

I think it is rude and I feel that my time has been wasted. Do others agree or am I, in fact, being too fragile about it?

[Anonymous]

They are probably covering their asses and being formal.

[Anonymous]

They are rude. Sadly, I think its now SOP.

[Anonymous]

That's how the cookie crumbles. Standard behavior these days.

[Anonymous]

I am also job searching, and I have had many informational interviews. Usually the person is really nice, upbeat, and enthused. Often they are taking notes on how they plan to follow up. Then, nothing. I do thank, I do follow up, but...nothing ever again.

[Anonymous]

Same here, I don't understand how this is also not waisting THEIR time.
When a job does say they've gone with another candidate, I ALWAYS reply that I very much appreciate the follow up. This should be the standard. It says a lot about a place when they jerk you around, so best to know before hand!

[Anonymous]

Employers literally have thousands of applicants to pick from for every or any position that they post an opening for. You are swimming in a sea of &#!+, so keep your mouth closed, your head high, and maybe you'll survive!

I'm not saying that it's right, but that's what's going on in the job market right not. People that used to be safe are getting the pink slip. If you were a top producer - the company thinks that they can replace you with someone younger, cheaper (the main reason that affect the bottom line), and smarter.

Now is a perfect time for companies that want to get rid of the less desirables. A few good plants taken away with the weeds makes room for new plants.

Bob Seger sang it best: "I feel like a number!"

[Anonymous]

HR bitch here. I was just going to say what 12:42 did - for one job opening I can sometimes have 800 resumes. Sometimes we have 3 job openings at once. I am swamped, and since my position does not directly make money for the company, they want as few of me as possible and as many billers as possible.

I'm sorry you aren't being gotten back to. Please keep in mind that things slow down in the summer significantly, what with everyone taking little trips here and there. Which means the hiring process is even more drawn out than usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HR bitch here. I was just going to say what 12:42 did - for one job opening I can sometimes have 800 resumes. Sometimes we have 3 job openings at once. I am swamped, and since my position does not directly make money for the company, they want as few of me as possible and as many billers as possible.

I'm sorry you aren't being gotten back to. Please keep in mind that things slow down in the summer significantly, what with everyone taking little trips here and there. Which means the hiring process is even more drawn out than usual.

An interviewees time is just as important as yours. You might remember that whether you have 3 or 300 job openings. Then you might not be known as an HR bitch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Employers literally have thousands of applicants to pick from for every or any position that they post an opening for. You are swimming in a sea of &#!+, so keep your mouth closed, your head high, and maybe you'll survive!

I'm not saying that it's right, but that's what's going on in the job market right not. People that used to be safe are getting the pink slip. If you were a top producer - the company thinks that they can replace you with someone younger, cheaper (the main reason that affect the bottom line), and smarter.

Now is a perfect time for companies that want to get rid of the less desirables. A few good plants taken away with the weeds makes room for new plants.

Bob Seger sang it best: "I feel like a number!"

And you wonder why America ranks so low for workplace satisfaction and production compared to its other western counterparts. Even Singapore has left us in the dust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HR bitch here. I was just going to say what 12:42 did - for one job opening I can sometimes have 800 resumes. Sometimes we have 3 job openings at once. I am swamped, and since my position does not directly make money for the company, they want as few of me as possible and as many billers as possible.

I'm sorry you aren't being gotten back to. Please keep in mind that things slow down in the summer significantly, what with everyone taking little trips here and there. Which means the hiring process is even more drawn out than usual.

Hey HR lady - it doesn't take THAT long to drop a standard form letter in the mail, or to send a form email (which is even EASIER, of course). This is just an excuse for being rude and classless. Yes the company has the power in the situation and of course they CAN behave like this, but that doesn't mean you should or that anyone should accept these lame excuses for crappy behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HR bitch here. I was just going to say what 12:42 did - for one job opening I can sometimes have 800 resumes. Sometimes we have 3 job openings at once. I am swamped, and since my position does not directly make money for the company, they want as few of me as possible and as many billers as possible.

I'm sorry you aren't being gotten back to. Please keep in mind that things slow down in the summer significantly, what with everyone taking little trips here and there. Which means the hiring process is even more drawn out than usual.

Hey HR lady - it doesn't take THAT long to drop a standard form letter in the mail, or to send a form email (which is even EASIER, of course). This is just an excuse for being rude and classless. Yes the company has the power in the situation and of course they CAN behave like this, but that doesn't mean you should or that anyone should accept these lame excuses for crappy behavior.

+1000. But I doubt the HR person would bend over to take the lead in being classy. Too difficult and 'not in my job description'!

[Anonymous]

Not Op, but a PP, I don't think a job should reply to EVERYONE to applies. I DO think they should tell people they interview. I assume they aren't interviewing 800 people. 3-5 people, I'd assume, if they're smart in how they review applicants. A form email isn't that difficult to have someone send.
Every applicant would be ridiculous...every interviewer shows you are a thoughtful organization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HR bitch here. I was just going to say what 12:42 did - for one job opening I can sometimes have 800 resumes. Sometimes we have 3 job openings at once. I am swamped, and since my position does not directly make money for the company, they want as few of me as possible and as many billers as possible.

I'm sorry you aren't being gotten back to. Please keep in mind that things slow down in the summer significantly, what with everyone taking little trips here and there. Which means the hiring process is even more drawn out than usual.

Hey HR lady - it doesn't take THAT long to drop a standard form letter in the mail, or to send a form email (which is even EASIER, of course). This is just an excuse for being rude and classless. Yes the company has the power in the situation and of course they CAN behave like this, but that doesn't mean you should or that anyone should accept these lame excuses for crappy behavior.

Unfortunately, it would take me three or so hours a couple of times a week to send out form emails telling all applicants we're sorry but we went with another candidate. I already work a full day plus two hours each night. I have a husband and children who I would like to spend time with. I'm sure if we hired someone ONLY to return phone calls of people following up on the resume they submitted and respond to emails, it would be close to full time. Because once you respond, people respond to your response asking for feedback on their resume, or on how their interview went. Then there would be the people noticing they were BCC'd a form rejection letter and posting here saying how rude it is and how much time does it REALLY take to just jot a few sentences to each applicant? I am not the decision maker when it comes to hiring. Also, I can not just create a form rejection letter and send it out - that would need to be approved by our legal department, and they already rejected the idea when my predecessor brought it up.

What I have noticed is that some job searchers apply for only one job at a time, waiting to hear about one before applying for another. This is a big mistake. Apply for everything you want/qualify for, and pursue each to the fullest degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HR bitch here. I was just going to say what 12:42 did - for one job opening I can sometimes have 800 resumes. Sometimes we have 3 job openings at once. I am swamped, and since my position does not directly make money for the company, they want as few of me as possible and as many billers as possible.

I'm sorry you aren't being gotten back to. Please keep in mind that things slow down in the summer significantly, what with everyone taking little trips here and there. Which means the hiring process is even more drawn out than usual.

Hey HR lady - it doesn't take THAT long to drop a standard form letter in the mail, or to send a form email (which is even EASIER, of course). This is just an excuse for being rude and classless. Yes the company has the power in the situation and of course they CAN behave like this, but that doesn't mean you should or that anyone should accept these lame excuses for crappy behavior.

Unfortunately, it would take me three or so hours a couple of times a week to send out form emails telling all applicants we're sorry but we went with another candidate. I already work a full day plus two hours each night. I have a husband and children who I would like to spend time with. I'm sure if we hired someone ONLY to return phone calls of people following up on the resume they submitted and respond to emails, it would be close to full time. Because once you respond, people respond to your response asking for feedback on their resume, or on how their interview went. Then there would be the people noticing they were BCC'd a form rejection letter and posting here saying how rude it is and how much time does it REALLY take to just jot a few sentences to each applicant? I am not the decision maker when it comes to hiring. Also, I can not just create a form rejection letter and send it out - that would need to be approved by our legal department, and they already rejected the idea when my predecessor brought it up.

What I have noticed is that some job searchers apply for only one job at a time, waiting to hear about one before applying for another. This is a big mistake. Apply for everything you want/qualify for, and pursue each to the fullest degree.

Hogwash! You are full of excuses. You could generate a simple form email where all you have to do is fill in a name and hit the send button. It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds.

I have applied for jobs and received a sorry email and some I haven't. You keep saying what you CAN'T do but not what you are WILLING to do. I'm sorry but you are part of the problem and not the solution. Too many excuses for everything.....from your family to your legal department. So sympathy here!