Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone made an interesting comment on that Nancy Grace video. I'm not familiar with the case details, but someone mentioned they think the husband stabbed the wife before the male victim was lured there that morning and then shot him. Is that a possibility with what has come out so far? Was the husband ever arrested?

The challenge would be the timing of Joe arriving, then AP arriving, then BB arriving. One would think Joe wouldn't have remained in the bedroom if CB was dead but BB needed him in the room. For me the hardest thing to reconcile is this, how did BB discover Joe in the room unless Joe and CB expected to see one another and CB was alive and well when Joe arrived.

[Anonymous]

Neighbors: How long would it take to drive from the McDonalds to the house? Assuming he was waiting for the call, ready to leave, and she called as soon as she saw Joe walk in, how big of a time window was it? Before 8 so likely not much traffic.

[Anonymous]

Since Joe was described as fully dressed, he likely had not been there long. It makes the most sense that CB did expect him and that she and JR were "in" on some of the plan but obviously not the real reason for the ruse, imo. Thus, she was nude. Thus the door was unlocked. Thus they spoke on the phone. Other parts of the ruse were intended to mislead them.

None of that matters re: convicting AP. In her own words, he had been shot in the head and was down on the ground. Unlikely that the jury will believe he was an ongoing threat and her credibility will be dinged just by the "story" re: taking a young child into a house where she believed a crime was occurring, then leaving the child alone.

In her own words to police, after BB shot JR in the head, she went to another room, got a 2nd gun and shot him again. No motive is needed, just a determination of how reasonable her sense that he was an ongoing threat was.

Will be interesting to hear more about where the knife was found given EMT did not see it.

[Anonymous]

The story about going to another room and him feeding her the combo for the safe and her quickly opening the gun safe under duress is not particularly believable. Nor is the time for delay re: the above if JR posed a true ongoing threat.

For practical reasons, BB, trained LE, had his loaded weapon in hand and could have fired again if need be. I think he did not want to fire the definitive kill shot so that if need be AP would take the fall for the more easily proved homicide, not him. Shooting someone on the ground who has been shot in the head when there was an ability to retreat (proved by going into another room) is going to be hard for her to skate on. BB really set up 3 people. And, he did not marry her during the time they were playing house before her arrest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The story about going to another room and him feeding her the combo for the safe and her quickly opening the gun safe under duress is not particularly believable. Nor is the time for delay re: the above if JR posed a true ongoing threat.

For practical reasons, BB, trained LE, had his loaded weapon in hand and could have fired again if need be. I think he did not want to fire the definitive kill shot so that if need be AP would take the fall for the more easily proved homicide, not him. Shooting someone on the ground who has been shot in the head when there was an ability to retreat (proved by going into another room) is going to be hard for her to skate on. BB really set up 3 people. And, he did not marry her during the time they were playing house before her arrest.

I could not agree with you more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

They didn’t purchase it for a million, sold a home previously to buying this one, and don’t come from destitute families. They were doing fine and I’m sure he still is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

Agree, except they had previously owned on Long Island, I believe. If so, that could have provided a significant down payment. But they were not wealthy people. I'm still curious about any life insurance policies on CB.

Re: an au pair, a more expensive form of childcare, I think CB was committed to the idea of it based on a very + experience with a prior AP, and as an RN and IRS LE they may have had schedules that did not match a daycare center that well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

They didn’t purchase it for a million, sold a home previously to buying this one, and don’t come from destitute families. They were doing fine and I’m sure he still is.

He's driving for Door Dash and Uber.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

They didn’t purchase it for a million, sold a home previously to buying this one, and don’t come from destitute families. They were doing fine and I’m sure he still is.

He's driving for Door Dash and Uber.

Don’t underestimate the need/want to get out of the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

Agree, except they had previously owned on Long Island, I believe. If so, that could have provided a significant down payment. But they were not wealthy people. I'm still curious about any life insurance policies on CB.

Re: an au pair, a more expensive form of childcare, I think CB was committed to the idea of it based on a very + experience with a prior AP, and as an RN and IRS LE they may have had schedules that did not match a daycare center that well.

An au pair is the cheapest Childcare option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

Agree, except they had previously owned on Long Island, I believe. If so, that could have provided a significant down payment. But they were not wealthy people. I'm still curious about any life insurance policies on CB.

Re: an au pair, a more expensive form of childcare, I think CB was committed to the idea of it based on a very + experience with a prior AP, and as an RN and IRS LE they may have had schedules that did not match a daycare center that well.

An au pair is the cheapest Childcare option.

Sure, and those two defense attorneys are giving BB the friends and family special to put on a the respective defenses for potentially two trials. .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

Agree, except they had previously owned on Long Island, I believe. If so, that could have provided a significant down payment. But they were not wealthy people. I'm still curious about any life insurance policies on CB.

Re: an au pair, a more expensive form of childcare, I think CB was committed to the idea of it based on a very + experience with a prior AP, and as an RN and IRS LE they may have had schedules that did not match a daycare center that well.

An au pair is the cheapest Childcare option.

Not necessarily for a 4 year old. It may have lent flexibility however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, NG overstated the "wealth" of the neighborhood calling our (yes I live there) houses McMansions. McMansions are those you see along Hunter Mill. We have nice yet still cookie-cutter homes.

"Wealth" can be subjective. A regular person would consider a neighborhood with million dollar houses a wealthy one (just checked Zillow and the houses in this neighborhood are worth $1-1.3M).

I agree about the subjective nature and a million dollars isn't what it used to be..... and... at the time of the murders BB was newish agent that wasn't making a huge salary. I'm sure CB was well compensated as a nurse. However, I believe they were at the upper limit of their budget in that home.

In my area many of the agents live in one community. The agents' homes don't tend to approach a million dollars.


Best,
Roy

They didn’t purchase it for a million, sold a home previously to buying this one, and don’t come from destitute families. They were doing fine and I’m sure he still is.

He's driving for Door Dash and Uber.

Not for long... Reckless Driving Case next month (after 2 other tickets)

[Anonymous]

Will the AP ever speak up?