Correct and no coach develop players. Every club wants to win to post on social media. Stop defending coaches and clubs. Be real. |
Thanks for leaving. Bye! |
2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players. |
Although I admire what NE has done in building the club from nothing to what it is today (with a lot of support behind him), I was skeptical of him being a GA coach and, if my DD was a 2012 thinking about joining that team, I probably would have discouraged her from doing so solely because of him being the coach. In hindsight, it’s hard to argue with his results. The 2012 FCV team was a weak team last year and at least a handful of their best players didn’t move to VRSC. The 2012 VRSC black team was substantially worse. So, TE didn’t have a lot to work with. Fast forward to end of their first GA season and that team won as many games as they lost, tied a few more, and finished right at the middle of the GA table. Rankings app has them at 167 in the country and 9 in VA, behind all the ECNL and current GA teams (other than TSJ) but ahead of all the ECNL-R teams. That’s a massive step up from where the 2012 FCV girls were last season and an even more massive step from where the 2012 VRSC girls were. So, I have to admit I was wrong and congratulate him for a job very well done. And, in any event, he’s not coaching GA next season, three very experienced coaches have all 6 GA teams. So your post is rather uninformed. |
Fake news. I can’t speak to the 2014s but the 2013s are dominated by former FCV players. |
The only local 2012 GA team that’s “ahead” of VRSC is SYC and they drew 2-2 a few weeks ago. |
There are five players on the 2012 an another five on the 2011. Honestly, the best legacy players from FCV went to VDA and Loudoun teams. What we ended up with are the ones trying to curry favor with coaches for playing time or just the average players. The FCV coaches have bent over backwards to ensure the girls they brought over get special treatment—whether it’s making them captains, starters, or giving them extra playtime. Truth be told, the 2012 and 2011 squads would’ve performed better if the coaches had focused on playing the strongest players instead of sticking with their favorites, especially in those critical positions on the field. |
Thank you FCV for saving REV!!!!!!!! |
and lost 4-1 the other time they played SYC. calm down. It is just 1 game. |
ok, thanks coach for your morning post. Have a great day! |
Not save, just accelerate progress. There is zero chance that the VRSC black teams from last season would have finished this season mid-table in GA. Just look at the U19s, which are mostly former VRSC players. It's just not credible to argue that the combination of the bottom half of last year's FCV GA squads (because another PP is right that the best FCV players did not go to VRSC) and the top half of last year's VRSC black squads led to much better GA teams this season than VRSC would have been able to field without the influx of those FCV players. But the legacy VRSC players who made the GA teams deserve credit as well. |
+1 well said |
Skills are developed at a very early age and the best players usually have these skills by age 12 at the VERY latest. Rarely do any players stay at one club their entire career and many are developed by smaller clubs until parents realize they need to move to the next level. It's the nature of the beast. Look at VDA. I don't see the VSA and PWSI parents constantly complaining about who trained who or what club other players came from. As for coaches and how they help a TEAM develop is through practices and games. Coaches directly influence the outcomes. I am not going to mention coach names but the high level Clubs you see winning at young ages are the ones where the Coach will play the best players and bench players may see zero, five or ten minutes at the most. That is not how CZ has ever coached younger ages BUT once they are U15 and up, he does change his strategy. Sure other players come in, but that is just like any other Club. Difference is some make National Playoff (or even win Nat'l Championships), and others never make Playoffs. I've seen both sides, ECNL and GA. CZ would succeed in either with older age groups. I will say, just like you and others, it can be very frustrating at younger ages to know you can win games, but instead lose because of coaching decisions. Remember, in the end, most want to see their children play in college because they love the game. College exposure starts maybe at the end of your U15 season if you are lucky enough to make playoffs. U16 and U17, game on! That is the goal. Get the team ready for those years. None of the other games really matter. Oh, and on another note, wait til Showcases at the older age groups, coaches could absolutely care less about those results! Relax and breathe. Again, if you are really that worried about it, go to ECNL where it is cutthroat from U14 on and in my opinion, not worth the stress and pain. I feel 100% that the experience on a Playoff GA team is much better than any ECNL team. I've seen a lot players quit ECNL in their teens because of the pressure, warming the bench, etc. I bet VDA 2010s will lose at least three players next season for these reasons. |
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Oh, I’m totally not worried, but like, thanks for your heartfelt concern or whatever. Since you seem to be the CZ whisperer around here, can you enlighten the group on how exactly he’s developing players? Seriously, still waiting on that answer. Equal playing time? Sure, cool story. But, um, how’s that working when three players are out there the whole game while there’s a small army on the bench? Math isn’t my strong suit, but I’m pretty sure that’s not adding up. And oh, is “developing” players code for sticking them in random positions like it’s some kind of tactical potluck? If that’s the case, why do a couple of them stay glued to their usual spots while everyone else is spinning around the field like a reality TV show challenge? You keep saying CZ’s gonna turn water into wine with results at U-15 and up, but isn’t that when he’s just gonna snag the top players from other places (if they don’t already ditch him for BP, who’s apparently the cooler coach in this game)? Let’s be real—half the talent’s already heading there faster than a Prius in the carpool lane. And then there’s legacy FCV players—yeah, the ones who are chasing coaches like they’re auditioning for their next big break and the , shall we say, the “average joes” leftover from the FCV old the roster. Oh, and CZ doesn’t care about winning? Please. Is that why he’s out there barking orders from his beach chair like a lifeguard having a bad day? So, just to recap: how much credit are we giving CZ for “player development”? Is it a little, a lot, or just a solid “meh”? And how exactly is he developing them anyway? Hoping for less beach chair vibes and more actual answers this time. |