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Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.

Can someone explain this obsession with homegrown teams that only applies to VRSC? No club has homegrown teams.


Correct and no coach develop players. Every club wants to win to post on social media. Stop defending coaches and clubs. Be real.
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


This is why we declined an offer for top GA team because of this level of clowning. NE is garbage as coach and worse as a person. Save yourself that misery. It’s bad enough with with countryman yapping the same instructions from his beach chair. Go ahead mod and delete this too


Thanks for leaving. Bye!
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Anonymous wrote:One of the teams is heading to nationals.

Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.


Don’t know about 2015s but there definitely are a lot of former FCV players on the 2013 and 2014 black teams. However, I believe those teams have more legacy VRSC players than any of the GA teams have.


2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players.
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


This is why we declined an offer for top GA team because of this level of clowning. NE is garbage as coach and worse as a person. Save yourself that misery. It’s bad enough with with countryman yapping the same instructions from his beach chair. Go ahead mod and delete this too


Although I admire what NE has done in building the club from nothing to what it is today (with a lot of support behind him), I was skeptical of him being a GA coach and, if my DD was a 2012 thinking about joining that team, I probably would have discouraged her from doing so solely because of him being the coach. In hindsight, it’s hard to argue with his results. The 2012 FCV team was a weak team last year and at least a handful of their best players didn’t move to VRSC. The 2012 VRSC black team was substantially worse. So, TE didn’t have a lot to work with. Fast forward to end of their first GA season and that team won as many games as they lost, tied a few more, and finished right at the middle of the GA table. Rankings app has them at 167 in the country and 9 in VA, behind all the ECNL and current GA teams (other than TSJ) but ahead of all the ECNL-R teams. That’s a massive step up from where the 2012 FCV girls were last season and an even more massive step from where the 2012 VRSC girls were. So, I have to admit I was wrong and congratulate him for a job very well done.

And, in any event, he’s not coaching GA next season, three very experienced coaches have all 6 GA teams.

So your post is rather uninformed.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the teams is heading to nationals.

Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.


Don’t know about 2015s but there definitely are a lot of former FCV players on the 2013 and 2014 black teams. However, I believe those teams have more legacy VRSC players than any of the GA teams have.


2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players.


Fake news. I can’t speak to the 2014s but the 2013s are dominated by former FCV players.
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


This is why we declined an offer for top GA team because of this level of clowning. NE is garbage as coach and worse as a person. Save yourself that misery. It’s bad enough with with countryman yapping the same instructions from his beach chair. Go ahead mod and delete this too


Although I admire what NE has done in building the club from nothing to what it is today (with a lot of support behind him), I was skeptical of him being a GA coach and, if my DD was a 2012 thinking about joining that team, I probably would have discouraged her from doing so solely because of him being the coach. In hindsight, it’s hard to argue with his results. The 2012 FCV team was a weak team last year and at least a handful of their best players didn’t move to VRSC. The 2012 VRSC black team was substantially worse. So, TE didn’t have a lot to work with. Fast forward to end of their first GA season and that team won as many games as they lost, tied a few more, and finished right at the middle of the GA table. Rankings app has them at 167 in the country and 9 in VA, behind all the ECNL and current GA teams (other than TSJ) but ahead of all the ECNL-R teams. That’s a massive step up from where the 2012 FCV girls were last season and an even more massive step from where the 2012 VRSC girls were. So, I have to admit I was wrong and congratulate him for a job very well done.

And, in any event, he’s not coaching GA next season, three very experienced coaches have all 6 GA teams.

So your post is rather uninformed.


The only local 2012 GA team that’s “ahead” of VRSC is SYC and they drew 2-2 a few weeks ago.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the teams is heading to nationals.

Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.


Don’t know about 2015s but there definitely are a lot of former FCV players on the 2013 and 2014 black teams. However, I believe those teams have more legacy VRSC players than any of the GA teams have.


2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players.


There are five players on the 2012 an another five on the 2011. Honestly, the best legacy players from FCV went to VDA and Loudoun teams. What we ended up with are the ones trying to curry favor with coaches for playing time or just the average players. The FCV coaches have bent over backwards to ensure the girls they brought over get special treatment—whether it’s making them captains, starters, or giving them extra playtime. Truth be told, the 2012 and 2011 squads would’ve performed better if the coaches had focused on playing the strongest players instead of sticking with their favorites, especially in those critical positions on the field.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the teams is heading to nationals.

Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.


Don’t know about 2015s but there definitely are a lot of former FCV players on the 2013 and 2014 black teams. However, I believe those teams have more legacy VRSC players than any of the GA teams have.


2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players.


Fake news. I can’t speak to the 2014s but the 2013s are dominated by former FCV players.


Thank you FCV for saving REV!!!!!!!!
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


This is why we declined an offer for top GA team because of this level of clowning. NE is garbage as coach and worse as a person. Save yourself that misery. It’s bad enough with with countryman yapping the same instructions from his beach chair. Go ahead mod and delete this too


Although I admire what NE has done in building the club from nothing to what it is today (with a lot of support behind him), I was skeptical of him being a GA coach and, if my DD was a 2012 thinking about joining that team, I probably would have discouraged her from doing so solely because of him being the coach. In hindsight, it’s hard to argue with his results. The 2012 FCV team was a weak team last year and at least a handful of their best players didn’t move to VRSC. The 2012 VRSC black team was substantially worse. So, TE didn’t have a lot to work with. Fast forward to end of their first GA season and that team won as many games as they lost, tied a few more, and finished right at the middle of the GA table. Rankings app has them at 167 in the country and 9 in VA, behind all the ECNL and current GA teams (other than TSJ) but ahead of all the ECNL-R teams. That’s a massive step up from where the 2012 FCV girls were last season and an even more massive step from where the 2012 VRSC girls were. So, I have to admit I was wrong and congratulate him for a job very well done.

And, in any event, he’s not coaching GA next season, three very experienced coaches have all 6 GA teams.

So your post is rather uninformed.


The only local 2012 GA team that’s “ahead” of VRSC is SYC and they drew 2-2 a few weeks ago.


and lost 4-1 the other time they played SYC. calm down. It is just 1 game.
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


This is why we declined an offer for top GA team because of this level of clowning. NE is garbage as coach and worse as a person. Save yourself that misery. It’s bad enough with with countryman yapping the same instructions from his beach chair. Go ahead mod and delete this too


Although I admire what NE has done in building the club from nothing to what it is today (with a lot of support behind him), I was skeptical of him being a GA coach and, if my DD was a 2012 thinking about joining that team, I probably would have discouraged her from doing so solely because of him being the coach. In hindsight, it’s hard to argue with his results. The 2012 FCV team was a weak team last year and at least a handful of their best players didn’t move to VRSC. The 2012 VRSC black team was substantially worse. So, TE didn’t have a lot to work with. Fast forward to end of their first GA season and that team won as many games as they lost, tied a few more, and finished right at the middle of the GA table. Rankings app has them at 167 in the country and 9 in VA, behind all the ECNL and current GA teams (other than TSJ) but ahead of all the ECNL-R teams. That’s a massive step up from where the 2012 FCV girls were last season and an even more massive step from where the 2012 VRSC girls were. So, I have to admit I was wrong and congratulate him for a job very well done.

And, in any event, he’s not coaching GA next season, three very experienced coaches have all 6 GA teams.

So your post is rather uninformed.


ok, thanks coach for your morning post. Have a great day!
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Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.


Don’t know about 2015s but there definitely are a lot of former FCV players on the 2013 and 2014 black teams. However, I believe those teams have more legacy VRSC players than any of the GA teams have.


2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players.


Fake news. I can’t speak to the 2014s but the 2013s are dominated by former FCV players.


Thank you FCV for saving REV!!!!!!!!


Not save, just accelerate progress. There is zero chance that the VRSC black teams from last season would have finished this season mid-table in GA. Just look at the U19s, which are mostly former VRSC players. It's just not credible to argue that the combination of the bottom half of last year's FCV GA squads (because another PP is right that the best FCV players did not go to VRSC) and the top half of last year's VRSC black squads led to much better GA teams this season than VRSC would have been able to field without the influx of those FCV players. But the legacy VRSC players who made the GA teams deserve credit as well.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the teams is heading to nationals.

Yeah thanks to FCV, no homegrown VRSC players there


Home grown VRSC players will be aplenty on 2013 and future teams.

Didn't VRSC get a bunch of those future teams you're referencing from FCV also, like the 2014's and 2015's. While I'm at it, I believe alot of those 2013's were also FCV not all that long ago either.


Don’t know about 2015s but there definitely are a lot of former FCV players on the 2013 and 2014 black teams. However, I believe those teams have more legacy VRSC players than any of the GA teams have.


2014 Black, there are only 2 former FCV players. 2013 Black, there are only 4 former FCV players.


Fake news. I can’t speak to the 2014s but the 2013s are dominated by former FCV players.


Thank you FCV for saving REV!!!!!!!!


Not save, just accelerate progress. There is zero chance that the VRSC black teams from last season would have finished this season mid-table in GA. Just look at the U19s, which are mostly former VRSC players. It's just not credible to argue that the combination of the bottom half of last year's FCV GA squads (because another PP is right that the best FCV players did not go to VRSC) and the top half of last year's VRSC black squads led to much better GA teams this season than VRSC would have been able to field without the influx of those FCV players. But the legacy VRSC players who made the GA teams deserve credit as well.


+1 well said
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


How much credit do actually give CZ? Traditionally FCV got better with the outside players that came in and not because of the players they "developed". Maybe thats why he is "better" with older teams???


Skills are developed at a very early age and the best players usually have these skills by age 12 at the VERY latest. Rarely do any players stay at one club their entire career and many are developed by smaller clubs until parents realize they need to move to the next level. It's the nature of the beast. Look at VDA. I don't see the VSA and PWSI parents constantly complaining about who trained who or what club other players came from.

As for coaches and how they help a TEAM develop is through practices and games. Coaches directly influence the outcomes. I am not going to mention coach names but the high level Clubs you see winning at young ages are the ones where the Coach will play the best players and bench players may see zero, five or ten minutes at the most. That is not how CZ has ever coached younger ages BUT once they are U15 and up, he does change his strategy. Sure other players come in, but that is just like any other Club. Difference is some make National Playoff (or even win Nat'l Championships), and others never make Playoffs. I've seen both sides, ECNL and GA. CZ would succeed in either with older age groups. I will say, just like you and others, it can be very frustrating at younger ages to know you can win games, but instead lose because of coaching decisions.

Remember, in the end, most want to see their children play in college because they love the game. College exposure starts maybe at the end of your U15 season if you are lucky enough to make playoffs. U16 and U17, game on! That is the goal. Get the team ready for those years. None of the other games really matter. Oh, and on another note, wait til Showcases at the older age groups, coaches could absolutely care less about those results!

Relax and breathe. Again, if you are really that worried about it, go to ECNL where it is cutthroat from U14 on and in my opinion, not worth the stress and pain. I feel 100% that the experience on a Playoff GA team is much better than any ECNL team. I've seen a lot players quit ECNL in their teens because of the pressure, warming the bench, etc. I bet VDA 2010s will lose at least three players next season for these reasons.
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Oh, I’m totally not worried, but like, thanks for your heartfelt concern or whatever. Since you seem to be the CZ whisperer around here, can you enlighten the group on how exactly he’s developing players? Seriously, still waiting on that answer. Equal playing time? Sure, cool story. But, um, how’s that working when three players are out there the whole game while there’s a small army on the bench? Math isn’t my strong suit, but I’m pretty sure that’s not adding up.
And oh, is “developing” players code for sticking them in random positions like it’s some kind of tactical potluck? If that’s the case, why do a couple of them stay glued to their usual spots while everyone else is spinning around the field like a reality TV show challenge? You keep saying CZ’s gonna turn water into wine with results at U-15 and up, but isn’t that when he’s just gonna snag the top players from other places (if they don’t already ditch him for BP, who’s apparently the cooler coach in this game)? Let’s be real—half the talent’s already heading there faster than a Prius in the carpool lane.
And then there’s legacy FCV players—yeah, the ones who are chasing coaches like they’re auditioning for their next big break and the , shall we say, the “average joes” leftover from the FCV old the roster. Oh, and CZ doesn’t care about winning? Please. Is that why he’s out there barking orders from his beach chair like a lifeguard having a bad day? So, just to recap: how much credit are we giving CZ for “player development”? Is it a little, a lot, or just a solid “meh”? And how exactly is he developing them anyway? Hoping for less beach chair vibes and more actual answers this time.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


How much credit do actually give CZ? Traditionally FCV got better with the outside players that came in and not because of the players they "developed". Maybe thats why he is "better" with older teams???


Skills are developed at a very early age and the best players usually have these skills by age 12 at the VERY latest. Rarely do any players stay at one club their entire career and many are developed by smaller clubs until parents realize they need to move to the next level. It's the nature of the beast. Look at VDA. I don't see the VSA and PWSI parents constantly complaining about who trained who or what club other players came from.

As for coaches and how they help a TEAM develop is through practices and games. Coaches directly influence the outcomes. I am not going to mention coach names but the high level Clubs you see winning at young ages are the ones where the Coach will play the best players and bench players may see zero, five or ten minutes at the most. That is not how CZ has ever coached younger ages BUT once they are U15 and up, he does change his strategy. Sure other players come in, but that is just like any other Club. Difference is some make National Playoff (or even win Nat'l Championships), and others never make Playoffs. I've seen both sides, ECNL and GA. CZ would succeed in either with older age groups. I will say, just like you and others, it can be very frustrating at younger ages to know you can win games, but instead lose because of coaching decisions.

Remember, in the end, most want to see their children play in college because they love the game. College exposure starts maybe at the end of your U15 season if you are lucky enough to make playoffs. U16 and U17, game on! That is the goal. Get the team ready for those years. None of the other games really matter. Oh, and on another note, wait til Showcases at the older age groups, coaches could absolutely care less about those results!

Relax and breathe. Again, if you are really that worried about it, go to ECNL where it is cutthroat from U14 on and in my opinion, not worth the stress and pain. I feel 100% that the experience on a Playoff GA team is much better than any ECNL team. I've seen a lot players quit ECNL in their teens because of the pressure, warming the bench, etc. I bet VDA 2010s will lose at least three players next season for these reasons.
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How about Sunday against PA classics?


Really BaDDDDD... CZ went ahead and played his favorites again, and it totally tanked the team’s game. One player spends way too much time on the field and keeps starting in a key position. Another was randomly tossed into the lineup, leaving everyone scratching their heads. Then there’s the favorite who stayed out there the entire game, constantly taking way too many shots. CZ and ED have sure done some harm to this team. Where was NE when all this was happenin?


Both teams are middle of the table at U13 and U14. You sound like an overzealous parent.

CZ has never cared about winning games before U15. If you don’t like that, feel free to watch your DD sit the bench at VDA or Union. That’s just how he is. Been there done that but all of his older seem to win. The 08s, 07s, 06s, 05s at FCV were all contenders for National Championships but early on BP and CZ didn’t try to win and would often do the exact same thing you mentioned. The 08s and 07s were torn apart when BP and CZ left. The 09s managed to stay together so we’ll see how they do this year.

Just remember, U16 and U17 are the most important years.


Oh, I’m totally not worried, but like, thanks for your heartfelt concern or whatever. Since you seem to be the CZ whisperer around here, can you enlighten the group on how exactly he’s developing players? Seriously, still waiting on that answer. Equal playing time? Sure, cool story. But, um, how’s that working when three players are out there the whole game while there’s a small army on the bench? Math isn’t my strong suit, but I’m pretty sure that’s not adding up.
And oh, is “developing” players code for sticking them in random positions like it’s some kind of tactical potluck? If that’s the case, why do a couple of them stay glued to their usual spots while everyone else is spinning around the field like a reality TV show challenge? You keep saying CZ’s gonna turn water into wine with results at U-15 and up, but isn’t that when he’s just gonna snag the top players from other places (if they don’t already ditch him for BP, who’s apparently the cooler coach in this game)? Let’s be real—half the talent’s already heading there faster than a Prius in the carpool lane.
And then there’s legacy FCV players—yeah, the ones who are chasing coaches like they’re auditioning for their next big break and the , shall we say, the “average joes” leftover from the FCV old the roster. Oh, and CZ doesn’t care about winning? Please. Is that why he’s out there barking orders from his beach chair like a lifeguard having a bad day? So, just to recap: how much credit are we giving CZ for “player development”? Is it a little, a lot, or just a solid “meh”? And how exactly is he developing them anyway? Hoping for less beach chair vibes and more actual answers this time.


Wroooong! they are literally trying to win at all cost they want to take the teams to Nats to brag about it on IG. Come on, dont be naive.


I’ve known CZ and his teams for ovet 10 years. Can’t speak on NE. ED is a douche and Marvin seems like the type that doesn’t want to win either and tries to get everyone playing time.

I stand by what I said. I secretly wish VRSC would replace ED. There are much better coaches out there they could replace him with.


How much credit do actually give CZ? Traditionally FCV got better with the outside players that came in and not because of the players they "developed". Maybe thats why he is "better" with older teams???


Skills are developed at a very early age and the best players usually have these skills by age 12 at the VERY latest. Rarely do any players stay at one club their entire career and many are developed by smaller clubs until parents realize they need to move to the next level. It's the nature of the beast. Look at VDA. I don't see the VSA and PWSI parents constantly complaining about who trained who or what club other players came from.

As for coaches and how they help a TEAM develop is through practices and games. Coaches directly influence the outcomes. I am not going to mention coach names but the high level Clubs you see winning at young ages are the ones where the Coach will play the best players and bench players may see zero, five or ten minutes at the most. That is not how CZ has ever coached younger ages BUT once they are U15 and up, he does change his strategy. Sure other players come in, but that is just like any other Club. Difference is some make National Playoff (or even win Nat'l Championships), and others never make Playoffs. I've seen both sides, ECNL and GA. CZ would succeed in either with older age groups. I will say, just like you and others, it can be very frustrating at younger ages to know you can win games, but instead lose because of coaching decisions.

Remember, in the end, most want to see their children play in college because they love the game. College exposure starts maybe at the end of your U15 season if you are lucky enough to make playoffs. U16 and U17, game on! That is the goal. Get the team ready for those years. None of the other games really matter. Oh, and on another note, wait til Showcases at the older age groups, coaches could absolutely care less about those results!

Relax and breathe. Again, if you are really that worried about it, go to ECNL where it is cutthroat from U14 on and in my opinion, not worth the stress and pain. I feel 100% that the experience on a Playoff GA team is much better than any ECNL team. I've seen a lot players quit ECNL in their teens because of the pressure, warming the bench, etc. I bet VDA 2010s will lose at least three players next season for these reasons.


Oh, I’m totally not worried, but like, thanks for your heartfelt concern or whatever. Since you seem to be the CZ whisperer around here, can you enlighten the group on how exactly he’s developing players? Seriously, still waiting on that answer. Equal playing time? Sure, cool story. But, um, how’s that working when three players are out there the whole game while there’s a small army on the bench? Math isn’t my strong suit, but I’m pretty sure that’s not adding up.
And oh, is “developing” players code for sticking them in random positions like it’s some kind of tactical potluck? If that’s the case, why do a couple of them stay glued to their usual spots while everyone else is spinning around the field like a reality TV show challenge? You keep saying CZ’s gonna turn water into wine with results at U-15 and up, but isn’t that when he’s just gonna snag the top players from other places (if they don’t already ditch him for BP, who’s apparently the cooler coach in this game)? Let’s be real—half the talent’s already heading there faster than a Prius in the carpool lane.
And then there’s legacy FCV players—yeah, the ones who are chasing coaches like they’re auditioning for their next big break and the , shall we say, the “average joes” leftover from the FCV old the roster. Oh, and CZ doesn’t care about winning? Please. Is that why he’s out there barking orders from his beach chair like a lifeguard having a bad day? So, just to recap: how much credit are we giving CZ for “player development”? Is it a little, a lot, or just a solid “meh”? And how exactly is he developing them anyway? Hoping for less beach chair vibes and more actual answers this time.
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