ECNL moving to school year not calendar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a new rumor that ACC, Big 10, and other college leagues are in talks to drop NCAA and align to US Soccer. If it happens they'll do year round soccer that mirrors MLS.

Also MLS is changing to BY to align to European Pro standards. What this means is that college might completely change to BY.

Explains why MLS and maybe GA arent commenting on BY to SY.

https://x.com/ProspectsUsmnt/status/1849972556826112220

Also just to make things fun here's Google doc with all Mens D1 and D2 coaching contact info.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1BqS_qdyPknSBow395E42XpJw2ok0O-rHC7WpcDQMbmw/htmlview#


Am I the only one that noticed that the second link in this post has every major college coach's email and phone number?
Anonymous
Even if college makes a super league. The reason they are making the change has to do with what’s best for kids. So idk if you can now pull that rug out.

My prediction for the announcement is US Soccer is in favor for BY for pro and international competition. They will not make a mandate but instead push the decision to the governing bodies to each decide what they want to do. I think the fact we have US club, USYS, AYSO all on the same side putting out a group announcement shows they are United and will all goto SY cut off together. While some other leagues and maybe some newly created leagues will stay birth year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Even if college makes a super league. The reason they are making the change has to do with what’s best for kids. So idk if you can now pull that rug out.

My prediction for the announcement is US Soccer is in favor for BY for pro and international competition. They will not make a mandate but instead push the decision to the governing bodies to each decide what they want to do. I think the fact we have US club, USYS, AYSO all on the same side putting out a group announcement shows they are United and will all goto SY cut off together. While some other leagues and maybe some newly created leagues will stay birth year.


But if they have already put a joint statement out, what could the breaking news be now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if college makes a super league. The reason they are making the change has to do with what’s best for kids. So idk if you can now pull that rug out.

My prediction for the announcement is US Soccer is in favor for BY for pro and international competition. They will not make a mandate but instead push the decision to the governing bodies to each decide what they want to do. I think the fact we have US club, USYS, AYSO all on the same side putting out a group announcement shows they are United and will all goto SY cut off together. While some other leagues and maybe some newly created leagues will stay birth year.


But if they have already put a joint statement out, what could the breaking news be now?


Like I said my guess is the us soccer is not going to be making a mandate this time. But will approve leagues to decide for themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if college makes a super league. The reason they are making the change has to do with what’s best for kids. So idk if you can now pull that rug out.

My prediction for the announcement is US Soccer is in favor for BY for pro and international competition. They will not make a mandate but instead push the decision to the governing bodies to each decide what they want to do. I think the fact we have US club, USYS, AYSO all on the same side putting out a group announcement shows they are United and will all goto SY cut off together. While some other leagues and maybe some newly created leagues will stay birth year.


But if they have already put a joint statement out, what could the breaking news be now?


Like I said my guess is the us soccer is not going to be making a mandate this time. But will approve leagues to decide for themselves.

That statement in gambling circles is what we call hedging your bet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if college makes a super league. The reason they are making the change has to do with what’s best for kids. So idk if you can now pull that rug out.

My prediction for the announcement is US Soccer is in favor for BY for pro and international competition. They will not make a mandate but instead push the decision to the governing bodies to each decide what they want to do. I think the fact we have US club, USYS, AYSO all on the same side putting out a group announcement shows they are United and will all goto SY cut off together. While some other leagues and maybe some newly created leagues will stay birth year.


But if they have already put a joint statement out, what could the breaking news be now?


Like I said my guess is the us soccer is not going to be making a mandate this time. But will approve leagues to decide for themselves.

That statement in gambling circles is what we call hedging your bet.


And I think that’s exactly what Us soccer will do. They don’t want to change but will let the other leagues do it.
Anonymous
From a strategic perspective, US Soccer allowing the leagues to dictate seems like the correct play.

This way if it fails or has complications that are not foreseen, the blame goes to those leagues pushing for change. The US Soccer stance would be they are trying to unify the landscape but some leagues only care about the bottom line not the growth of the sport and player development.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From a strategic perspective, US Soccer allowing the leagues to dictate seems like the correct play.

This way if it fails or has complications that are not foreseen, the blame goes to those leagues pushing for change. The US Soccer stance would be they are trying to unify the landscape but some leagues only care about the bottom line not the growth of the sport and player development.


It will absolutely fail in ways unforeseen. The happy path is always wrong. And this issue, being pushed by US Club of all orgs, is absurdly justified as “helping all of soccer.”

They’re trying to tether the product closer to college, but college is in its own swirl of chaos and change. The whole thing is stupid, and it’s being pushed by stupid. If USSF takes the stance you’re theorizing, at least it suggests there is an adult in the room somewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a strategic perspective, US Soccer allowing the leagues to dictate seems like the correct play.

This way if it fails or has complications that are not foreseen, the blame goes to those leagues pushing for change. The US Soccer stance would be they are trying to unify the landscape but some leagues only care about the bottom line not the growth of the sport and player development.


It will absolutely fail in ways unforeseen. The happy path is always wrong. And this issue, being pushed by US Club of all orgs, is absurdly justified as “helping all of soccer.”

They’re trying to tether the product closer to college, but college is in its own swirl of chaos and change. The whole thing is stupid, and it’s being pushed by stupid. If USSF takes the stance you’re theorizing, at least it suggests there is an adult in the room somewhere.
They are also trying to increase youth soccer participation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a strategic perspective, US Soccer allowing the leagues to dictate seems like the correct play.

This way if it fails or has complications that are not foreseen, the blame goes to those leagues pushing for change. The US Soccer stance would be they are trying to unify the landscape but some leagues only care about the bottom line not the growth of the sport and player development.


It will absolutely fail in ways unforeseen. The happy path is always wrong. And this issue, being pushed by US Club of all orgs, is absurdly justified as “helping all of soccer.”

They’re trying to tether the product closer to college, but college is in its own swirl of chaos and change. The whole thing is stupid, and it’s being pushed by stupid. If USSF takes the stance you’re theorizing, at least it suggests there is an adult in the room somewhere.


I think having a system of just birth year with the high majority of clubs operating with pay to play we will never have success. We have to be able to look at ourselves objectively and how we operate scholastically is very different than most of the world.

I think we shouldn’t abandon birth year and there should be a path for boys and girls who have aspirations of playing pro or national team level. We should also have a path that helps kids stay involved in soccer for as long as possible and include some type of waiver system so kids can also play where they belong physically.

There is so much wrong with people who argue birth year and the rest of the work do it. When the other countries have free subsidized academies and coaches that look at young players potential and growth over time.

Pay to play will never allow that and we will always have the biggest fastest kids getting the bulk of the opportunities.

I think only a school year system is a terrible idea as well.
Anonymous
From CST…”Stay Tuned”…….


Announcement coming any minute now
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a strategic perspective, US Soccer allowing the leagues to dictate seems like the correct play.

This way if it fails or has complications that are not foreseen, the blame goes to those leagues pushing for change. The US Soccer stance would be they are trying to unify the landscape but some leagues only care about the bottom line not the growth of the sport and player development.


It will absolutely fail in ways unforeseen. The happy path is always wrong. And this issue, being pushed by US Club of all orgs, is absurdly justified as “helping all of soccer.”

They’re trying to tether the product closer to college, but college is in its own swirl of chaos and change. The whole thing is stupid, and it’s being pushed by stupid. If USSF takes the stance you’re theorizing, at least it suggests there is an adult in the room somewhere.
They are also trying to increase youth soccer participation.


Club soccer has been growing as overall youth soccer participation has been stagnant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From a strategic perspective, US Soccer allowing the leagues to dictate seems like the correct play.

This way if it fails or has complications that are not foreseen, the blame goes to those leagues pushing for change. The US Soccer stance would be they are trying to unify the landscape but some leagues only care about the bottom line not the growth of the sport and player development.


It will absolutely fail in ways unforeseen. The happy path is always wrong. And this issue, being pushed by US Club of all orgs, is absurdly justified as “helping all of soccer.”

They’re trying to tether the product closer to college, but college is in its own swirl of chaos and change. The whole thing is stupid, and it’s being pushed by stupid. If USSF takes the stance you’re theorizing, at least it suggests there is an adult in the room somewhere.
They are also trying to increase youth soccer participation.


Club soccer has been growing as overall youth soccer participation has been stagnant.
They are trying to increase soccer participation.
Anonymous
CST:

DM: “The vote on November 22nd, (graduation year vs birth year), is just a formality. It’s already been discussed and decided. It will change back to graduation year in club soccer. We are buying time to allow club organizations an opportunity to organize their player pool process for the 2025-26 season.”

-US Club Soccer Representative
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CST:

DM: “The vote on November 22nd, (graduation year vs birth year), is just a formality. It’s already been discussed and decided. It will change back to graduation year in club soccer. We are buying time to allow club organizations an opportunity to organize their player pool process for the 2025-26 season.”

-US Club Soccer Representative


same crap that’s been said.
How exactly are they buying time.

If everyone knows it’s going through, or if this was being discussed for many months, I’m sure clubs have been planning.
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