October Surprise?

[Anonymous]

Lot of chatter on the net tonight that Barack Obama may not meet citizenship qualifications to be president of the United States. Wow that would really be wild. Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lot of chatter on the net tonight that Barack Obama may not meet citizenship qualifications to be president of the United States. Wow that would really be wild. Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

This is old news and not true. His mother was an American. He was born here, in America, thus making him..... AN AMERICAN.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

[Anonymous]

And please google McCain's citizenship. He was born in Panama. Not the US. Is he a citizen?

[jsteele]

You are absolutely correct that Obama was not born in America. He has admitted this himself:

Obama said. "I was actually born on Krypton and sent here by my father Jor-El to save the planet Earth."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-and-mccai.html

No offense to Kryptonian-Americans, but the constitution is very clear on this point. Looks like the Dem ticket might be Biden/Clinton.

[Anonymous]

Christ Jeff! Don't tell them it is true!

[Anonymous]

They're saying that maybe his Birth Certificate was doctored or fake.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:You are absolutely correct that Obama was not born in America. He has admitted this himself:

Obama said. "I was actually born on Krypton and sent here by my father Jor-El to save the planet Earth."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-and-mccai.html

No offense to Kryptonian-Americans, but the constitution is very clear on this point. Looks like the Dem ticket might be Biden/Clinton.

Jeff, this is absolutely ridiculous.

Obama is lying about being born on Krypton; the problem is that he was indeed born in a manger, no matter what he says, and that manger was in Jerusalem. And you know as well as I do that the REAL October surprise is that the ticket will be, as it should be, Clinton/Biden. Please stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

Doesn't this apply to naturalized citizens? I thought a child born on US soil, regardless of the citizenship of its parents', is American.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

Doesn't this apply to naturalized citizens? I thought a child born on US soil, regardless of the citizenship of its parents', is American.

There are two lawsuits in process. One in Washington State and the other in Pennsylvania. The one in PA is a former Clinton bundler. The judge is reluctant to even begin the process. Regardless of being born to an American, the law states that it's not automatic. OMG what if McCain and Obama are both ruled ineligble and they make Dick Cheney the President.

[Anonymous]

Ok, but Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state. That does not make him a citizen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

Doesn't this apply to naturalized citizens? I thought a child born on US soil, regardless of the citizenship of its parents', is American.

There are two lawsuits in process. One in Washington State and the other in Pennsylvania. The one in PA is a former Clinton bundler. The judge is reluctant to even begin the process. Regardless of being born to an American, the law states that it's not automatic. OMG what if McCain and Obama are both ruled ineligble and they make Dick Cheney the President.

Gee, if they go after Obama after he was born in a US state, then they need to go after McCain since he was born in Panama before it came under US jurisdiction, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

Doesn't this apply to naturalized citizens? I thought a child born on US soil, regardless of the citizenship of its parents', is American.

There are two lawsuits in process. One in Washington State and the other in Pennsylvania. The one in PA is a former Clinton bundler. The judge is reluctant to even begin the process. Regardless of being born to an American, the law states that it's not automatic. OMG what if McCain and Obama are both ruled ineligble and they make Dick Cheney the President.

Gee, if they go after Obama after he was born in a US state, then they need to go after McCain since he was born in Panama before it came under US jurisdiction, right?

Not only was he born in Panama but he was born their BEFORE it became law that military kids born abroad were automatic citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:You are absolutely correct that Obama was not born in America. He has admitted this himself:

Obama said. "I was actually born on Krypton and sent here by my father Jor-El to save the planet Earth."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-and-mccai.html

No offense to Kryptonian-Americans, but the constitution is very clear on this point. Looks like the Dem ticket might be Biden/Clinton.

Jeff, this is absolutely ridiculous.

Obama is lying about being born on Krypton; the problem is that he was indeed born in a manger, no matter what he says, and that manger was in Jerusalem. And you know as well as I do that the REAL October surprise is that the ticket will be, as it should be, Clinton/Biden. Please stop spreading misinformation.



Thank you for the great laugh. I really needed that tonight!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

Doesn't this apply to naturalized citizens? I thought a child born on US soil, regardless of the citizenship of its parents', is American.

There are two lawsuits in process. One in Washington State and the other in Pennsylvania. The one in PA is a former Clinton bundler. The judge is reluctant to even begin the process. Regardless of being born to an American, the law states that it's not automatic. OMG what if McCain and Obama are both ruled ineligble and they make Dick Cheney the President.

Gee, if they go after Obama after he was born in a US state, then they need to go after McCain since he was born in Panama before it came under US jurisdiction, right?

Not only was he born in Panama but he was born their BEFORE it became law that military kids born abroad were automatic citizens.

McCain was born as the son of two United States Citzens. Doesn't matter if you are born in Panama City FL or Panama Canal. You are a citizen. I worry about Obama not having that clarity

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Evidently his father who is obviously Kenyan does not qualify and his mom because she was 18 may have issues because you need to be a citizen for 5 years after you turn 16 to become a naturalized citizen.

This would really be a wild outcome if the judge rules against Obama

Doesn't this apply to naturalized citizens? I thought a child born on US soil, regardless of the citizenship of its parents', is American.

There are two lawsuits in process. One in Washington State and the other in Pennsylvania. The one in PA is a former Clinton bundler. The judge is reluctant to even begin the process. Regardless of being born to an American, the law states that it's not automatic. OMG what if McCain and Obama are both ruled ineligble and they make Dick Cheney the President.

Gee, if they go after Obama after he was born in a US state, then they need to go after McCain since he was born in Panama before it came under US jurisdiction, right?

Not only was he born in Panama but he was born their BEFORE it became law that military kids born abroad were automatic citizens.

McCain was born as the son of two United States Citzens. Doesn't matter if you are born in Panama City FL or Panama Canal. You are a citizen. I worry about Obama not having that clarity

not the case, it wasnot a law then

In John McCain's case, it doesn't really appear to be a question over whether he is or is not a U.S. citizen that is of concern. Instead it is a question of interpretation of the basic qualification layed out in the U.S. Constitution that a president must be a "natural-born citizen." In the case of John McCain, who was born in 1936, it was a retroactive 1937 law that conferred citizenship on children born in the Canal Zone after 1904 to American parents.

"...Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this Act, whose father or mother or both at the time of birth of such person was or is a citizen ofthe Unied States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."
Because this law was not in effect at the time of McCain's birth, experts such as University of Arizona law professor Prof. Gabriel J. Chin say that it came too late to make John McCain a natural-born citizen. At the time of McCain's birth, the relevant statute did grant citizenship to any child of an American parent "out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States." Professor Chin said the precise wording is important here, and that "out of the...jurisdiction" doesn't apply to the Panama Canal Zone which was under the jurisdiction of the United States at the time. Others argue that recognition of the "unintentional gap" is the reason that Congress passed the 1937 Canal Zone citizenship law.
The meaning of the term "natural born" citizen has long been debated and never convincingly resolved. So, while John McCain stands by his eligibility to hold the nation's highest office, his campaign sought a review from legal experts to put the issue to rest, just as it did in his first White House run in 2000.