New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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I don't see the desire to play for ECNL (Girls) teams lessening at all, personally. Rightly or wrongly, the perception at this moment in time (doesn't mean it won't shift in the future) is that the ECNL Girls platform is by far the top one (amongst female players & families).

The change now is that there are WAY fewer ECNL spots available with teams moving to the GA (which could cause a change in local mentality, perhaps), but those spots will be very hard to get, so the talent will still flock. Then, it will be distributed to the "next best thing." Will some go to VDA's ECNL-RL with hopes of moving up vs a GA spot? Maybe, maybe not.

It is not about there being too many League Spots/Clubs in a league (I think more localized games is a huge bonus), but when the numbers get to what they are looking like (and who knows if the GA adds more potentially, or are they done?), then there just isn't the depth of top-end talent to field teams who can compete on a National level (local yes, national no).

Historically, it has shown that a large chunk of the local talent on ONE team puts the area in the conversation, but if it is spread out, it won't be possible consistently at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So now there's to many clubs? Is this what the ECNL hats are saying?

The whole "watering down" concept is BS. Clubs develop players. Top players in the club development program filter up to the clubs top teams. The top teams success is because of all the work clubs put into training their top players.

ECNL parents don't understand this because they're used to recruiting the top players from other clubs development programs. When they say watered down what they're really saying is their club can't compete when they're forced to develop players from littles all the way to u19.


TRUTH - The only time I hear watered down or over saturated is from "elite" clubs trying to sell people on why they should switch clubs/leagues.

Markets are watered down or over saturated, you see areas where clubs go 2-3 teams deep and those teams are far better then a lot of other states top teams. Why? TRAINING....Some clubs actually train while others are content trying to recruit the best players from other clubs.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this right? Now there are 7 GA teams in NoVa?
Mclean
Loudoun
NVA
Revolution
SYC
Alexandria
St James

7 GA and the 3 ECNL teams makes 10 national platform teams? 11 if Bethesda is included. Does any other metro have anything close to this many teams?


SoCal, Atlanta, NYC and some others depending on if you just asking about an actual metro area of an specific area size.

You also forgot Skyline


Plus Armour Celtic and MDU if we are talking about the MSI. And coppermine. Too many.

Last year all the ECNL hats were laughing because they thought no club would switch from ECNL to GA.

This year apparently too many ECNL clubs have switched to GA.

The nonsense never stops with the hats.


No top ECNL club would switch to ga. Plenty of mediocre ones have.

Give it time.

Next phase is for MLSN to start pressing clubs that have girls ECNL into GA.

Kick and scream all you want. Slowly you'll be surrounded.


So GA is CCL rebooted?


EXACTLY! Sad...but true.
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Anonymous wrote:So now there's to many clubs? Is this what the ECNL hats are saying?

The whole "watering down" concept is BS
. Clubs develop players. Top players in the club development program filter up to the clubs top teams. The top teams success is because of all the work clubs put into training their top players.

ECNL parents don't understand this because they're used to recruiting the top players from other clubs development programs. When they say watered down what they're really saying is their club can't compete when they're forced to develop players from littles all the way to u19.



It's not BS. It's a fact. The pool of "elite" players in this area, by age group, is pretty static. Sure, a few new ones can work their way in, but instead of spreading that talent over a handful of teams (like it was years ago), it's spread over 10+ teams and waters them all down.
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"Atlanta has 5 ECNL/4 GA
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True but 3 of the 4 Girls Academy teams most talented Atlanta players would never consider joining. Girls who are on TopHat Navy, SSA, and AFC likely are those who can't make any ECNL roster or TopHat Gold. And the talent on those teams is really watered down. So not sure Atlanta having 9 teams is a good example of a market that can handle that many "top" level teams.

In the 2011-2012 girls years the second Concorde Fire team ECNL Premier team isn't even based out of Atlanta anymore (same with 2013s coming up). It's based out of a regional CF club in Columbus 2 hours away. This is also because of watered down talent in Atlanta with Premier teams 2010 and older having such poor performance.

Watering down the market with too many GA and ECNL teams means some teams will be very poorly performing.


Or to ne de ilsa advocate it can give more talent time to shine. Let's be real we all know teams have favorite players

you seem familiar with the Atlanta area. do you know why AFC U17 in Georgia played no games this year? Did the GA not let them or not enough players? all their other age groups played
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"Atlanta has 5 ECNL/4 GA
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True but 3 of the 4 Girls Academy teams most talented Atlanta players would never consider joining. Girls who are on TopHat Navy, SSA, and AFC likely are those who can't make any ECNL roster or TopHat Gold. And the talent on those teams is really watered down. So not sure Atlanta having 9 teams is a good example of a market that can handle that many "top" level teams.

In the 2011-2012 girls years the second Concorde Fire team ECNL Premier team isn't even based out of Atlanta anymore (same with 2013s coming up). It's based out of a regional CF club in Columbus 2 hours away. This is also because of watered down talent in Atlanta with Premier teams 2010 and older having such poor performance.

Watering down the market with too many GA and ECNL teams means some teams will be very poorly performing.


you seem familiar with the Atlanta area. do you know why AFC U17 in Georgia played no games this year? Did the GA not let them or not enough players? all their other age groups played
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anyone familiar with the Atlanta area know why AFC U17 in Georgia played no games this year? Did the GA not let them or not enough players? all their other age groups played
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Don't confused talent with training. Clubs, especially ECNL, have become complacent knowing they'd never be removed and that they effectively blocked certain competing clubs from entering. Ever think why and area with a larger population would have less clubs in ECNL or GA then some other areas? They don't breed them different in Texas, Georgia, or Cal they just train them better.


Sorry but this is just so untrue. The market size and pool of players to pull from in those areas is just so much deeper. While the DC MSA is seventh largest in the country, it only has 6.4M people. Los Angeles MSA is more than twice that size (12.9M) and Dallas and Houston each individually are bigger (8.3M; 7.8M) Atlanta is behind at eight and roughly the same size but how many combined GA and ECNL teams are their in this region (11? 12 with Bethesda which is in the MSA?)

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GA added elmbrook united today from e64
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True but 3 of the 4 Girls Academy teams most talented Atlanta players would never consider joining. Girls who are on TopHat Navy, SSA, and AFC likely are those who can't make any ECNL roster or TopHat Gold. And the talent on those teams is really watered down. So not sure Atlanta having 9 teams is a good example of a market that can handle that many "top" level teams.

In the 2011-2012 girls years the second Concorde Fire team ECNL Premier team isn't even based out of Atlanta anymore (same with 2013s coming up). It's based out of a regional CF club in Columbus 2 hours away. This is also because of watered down talent in Atlanta with Premier teams 2010 and older having such poor performance.

Watering down the market with too many GA and ECNL teams means some teams will be very poorly performing.


Or to ne de ilsa advocate it can give more talent time to shine. Let's be real we all know teams have favorite players


you seem familiar with the Atlanta area. do you know why AFC U17 in Georgia played no games this year? Did the GA not let them or not enough players? all their other age groups played

AFC is going down on the girls sode
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Anonymous wrote:anyone familiar with the Atlanta area know why AFC U17 in Georgia played no games this year? Did the GA not let them or not enough players? all their other age groups played


couldn't field a team at that age group.
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Anonymous wrote:GA added elmbrook united today from e64


I guess we're seeing a consolidation of leagues here. E64 being absorbed by ga/ ecnl. Dpl absorbed.
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Anonymous wrote:GA added elmbrook united today from e64


Looks like a good add. #99 Girls club in the nation. Have at least 3 teams at every age. In WI of the U13-U19 they have ranks of 3 @ #1, 1 @ #2, 1 @ #3, and 1 @ #5




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Anyone hear when the conference alignment is going to be announced for GA?
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Anonymous wrote:GA added elmbrook united today from e64



#99 ranked club on the girls side
#130 ranked club on the girls side

#88 ranked club overall
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