Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

DTSS to Blair is 15 min.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.

Which they attend by choice.

And 45 minutes < 65 minutes

again, what is your alternative suggestion?

What do you mean, "again"? Are you asking me for what I think MCPS should decide with regards to the boundary study? I mean I have an opinion but the point of my post above is that sending the low income kids who opt in to Whitman involves much longer trips than those in Option 3.

alternative suggestion to not make the bus ride so long.

Any of the options offered by the consultants would make kids' bus rides shorter

shorter than...the one specific case proposed on this board regarding a central location to Whitman? Or shorter than what they have now?

we don't have data on any of that but I'm willing to bet that Option 3 increases the average bus ride length for a kid in the Woodward boundary study.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.

+1

And it's not necessary. CC is the CC is B-CC. B-CC is walkable for those in CC.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids already have 45 min bus rides for CES.

Which they attend by choice.

And 45 minutes < 65 minutes

again, what is your alternative suggestion?

What do you mean, "again"? Are you asking me for what I think MCPS should decide with regards to the boundary study? I mean I have an opinion but the point of my post above is that sending the low income kids who opt in to Whitman involves much longer trips than those in Option 3.

alternative suggestion to not make the bus ride so long.

Any of the options offered by the consultants would make kids' bus rides shorter

shorter than...the one specific case proposed on this board regarding a central location to Whitman? Or shorter than what they have now?

we don't have data on any of that but I'm willing to bet that Option 3 increases the average bus ride length for a kid in the Woodward boundary study.

Again, I have an opinion but the point of my post above is that sending the low income kids who opt in to Whitman involves much longer trips than those in Option 3.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.

+1

And it's not necessary. CC is the CC is B-CC. B-CC is walkable for those in CC.

I'll buy that the school bus trip is 45 minutes, not 65 minutes as some are demanding low income kids do if they care about their futures

[Anonymous]

The commute times are def. not as long/far as people are saying. The only thing that would take 45 is Germsmtown to SS. Rockville, Bethesda, are all around 25-35 min tops. I do not inderstand where people are coming up with 45 minutes?!! I travel back and forth from these places all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The commute times are def. not as long/far as people are saying. The only thing that would take 45 is Germsmtown to SS. Rockville, Bethesda, are all around 25-35 min tops. I do not inderstand where people are coming up with 45 minutes?!! I travel back and forth from these places all the time.

I think they are saying 45 minutes with multiple stops

Then some folks are rounding up to an hour to justify their proposal to have low income kids travel to centralized bus stops to get to Whitman (it's okay because would be their "choice")

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.

+1

And it's not necessary. CC is the CC is B-CC. B-CC is walkable for those in CC.

I'll buy that the school bus trip is 45 minutes, not 65 minutes as some are demanding low income kids do if they care about their futures

the Whitman suggestion arose because involuntary busing won't equalize FARMS rates because people will segregate (because they always do). the question became how can you increase the FARMS rate at Whitman, given it is so far away, without involuntary busing. the suggestion was to allow kids to voluntarily lottery in. the challenge is of course the length of the bus ride.

[Anonymous]

Most people will not move… this ridiculous idea keeps coming up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The commute times are def. not as long/far as people are saying. The only thing that would take 45 is Germsmtown to SS. Rockville, Bethesda, are all around 25-35 min tops. I do not inderstand where people are coming up with 45 minutes?!! I travel back and forth from these places all the time.

I think they are saying 45 minutes with multiple stops

Then some folks are rounding up to an hour to justify their proposal to have low income kids travel to centralized bus stops to get to Whitman (it's okay because would be their "choice")

buses also go slower than cars, and are not going on direct routes because they are picking up multiple kids. it's definitely longer than a car ride (which others have suggested might indeed by 45 min itself).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.

+1

And it's not necessary. CC is the CC is B-CC. B-CC is walkable for those in CC.

I'll buy that the school bus trip is 45 minutes, not 65 minutes as some are demanding low income kids do if they care about their futures

the Whitman suggestion arose because involuntary busing won't equalize FARMS rates because people will segregate (because they always do). the question became how can you increase the FARMS rate at Whitman, given it is so far away, without involuntary busing. the suggestion was to allow kids to voluntarily lottery in. the challenge is of course the length of the bus ride.

Why are you making proposals that only impact kids in other communities? Maybe stfu with your paternalistic bs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people will not move… this ridiculous idea keeps coming up.

of course people will move. the history of self-segregation shows that to be true.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.

+1

And it's not necessary. CC is the CC is B-CC. B-CC is walkable for those in CC.

I'll buy that the school bus trip is 45 minutes, not 65 minutes as some are demanding low income kids do if they care about their futures

the Whitman suggestion arose because involuntary busing won't equalize FARMS rates because people will segregate (because they always do). the question became how can you increase the FARMS rate at Whitman, given it is so far away, without involuntary busing. the suggestion was to allow kids to voluntarily lottery in. the challenge is of course the length of the bus ride.

Why are you making proposals that only impact kids in other communities? Maybe stfu with your paternalistic bs

yikes why don't you care about poor kids' education?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The commute times are def. not as long/far as people are saying. The only thing that would take 45 is Germsmtown to SS. Rockville, Bethesda, are all around 25-35 min tops. I do not inderstand where people are coming up with 45 minutes?!! I travel back and forth from these places all the time.

I think they are saying 45 minutes with multiple stops

Then some folks are rounding up to an hour to justify their proposal to have low income kids travel to centralized bus stops to get to Whitman (it's okay because would be their "choice")

buses also go slower than cars, and are not going on direct routes because they are picking up multiple kids. it's definitely longer than a car ride (which others have suggested might indeed by 45 min itself).

any trip might be 45 minutes with unusually bad traffic. It does not take 45 minutes to get from Chevy Chase to Blair on a normal morning, that's absurd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cheby chase or Bethesda to downtown SS is def. not an hour maybe 30 minutes tops. I used to do the commute for work..

on a bus with multiple stops and not using 495 it's easily 45 minutes. Blair isn't quite in dtss.

+1

And it's not necessary. CC is the CC is B-CC. B-CC is walkable for those in CC.

I'll buy that the school bus trip is 45 minutes, not 65 minutes as some are demanding low income kids do if they care about their futures

the Whitman suggestion arose because involuntary busing won't equalize FARMS rates because people will segregate (because they always do). the question became how can you increase the FARMS rate at Whitman, given it is so far away, without involuntary busing. the suggestion was to allow kids to voluntarily lottery in. the challenge is of course the length of the bus ride.

Why are you making proposals that only impact kids in other communities? Maybe stfu with your paternalistic bs

whitman parents getting freaked about farms kids? who would have guessed.