If you work in tech: what are your salaries?

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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



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Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.


Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?


^^ NP working at FAANG. Easiest way to get past the resume screen is to have an internal referral. Any internal referral will do (e.g. doesn't need to be strong glowing recommendation directly to the hiring manager, at my FAANG you just submit a quick form to HR) -- it puts you in a different queue. Almost every candidate we interview comes this way.
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.


Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?


^^ NP working at FAANG. Easiest way to get past the resume screen is to have an internal referral. Any internal referral will do (e.g. doesn't need to be strong glowing recommendation directly to the hiring manager, at my FAANG you just submit a quick form to HR) -- it puts you in a different queue. Almost every candidate we interview comes this way.


Noted. Will do.
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Anonymous wrote:Not in the job market currently but Microsoft recruiter found my resume and LinkedIn profile. He is trying to poach me and said salary can be up to $350k. This is for a DC area position.


What role or skill commands that much salary without even applying?

Cloud architect with TS/SCI clearance.


Yep, now that all of the cloud vendors wone the latest competition, they all need to staff up quickly between poaching from AWS skilled people and also just training anyone with a clearance and a heartbeat.


I have an unrelated BA degree but a TS SCI. Would I need a degree or can certs suffice?
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Anonymous wrote:Netflix pays better than the others but has bad benefits.


How to get a job at Netflix or Google? Do they hire folks who only have DoD experience? (But on old technology). However, I am a hard worker and learn quickly (smart if I say so myself and get all with most folks) so definitely can pick up new skills - not sure if I can get hired without these skills but can't get them in the current job.


Those are top jobs. You'd need to impress in an interview.


As a dev? You need relevant experience to get an interview then you have to pass the interview. Many engineers get interviews but it's not easy to crack them.


Netflix pays 450k cash and only hire senior level engineers.


Has to be more than that now. I remember hearing the 450k figure thrown around even 4-5 years ago but big tech salaries have increased a lot since then. Netflix is a place that will fire you at the drop of a hat too.


What kind of skills does a senior level engineer need? What is in demand?


If you are asking this on DCUM, Netflix won’t be in the cards for you. They are ruthless.

But post questions on Hacker News for more general career advice.



Agree. I don't have the skills to join Netflix as I am working in old technology for too long. If I don't have programming skills but have the ability to get a TS (with full scope poly) and other good skills, wonder if I should get a non programming job in these companies even if I start from a lower level and work my way up. Would the pay be worth it?


I can’t see any reason Netflix would want a TS, but AWS and Azure with gov support would use it, but I doubt pay will be that stellar


AWS and Azure both pay a clearance bonus on top of the regular software engineer compensation. Typically around 40-60k. You can easily hit 300-400k TC in these positions.


To be a software engineer though I would need to take a bootcamp and get a degree or will certs suffice for such a high pay job?


Degree, certifications and clearance.


Which certs? I have an unrelated BA degree and work in tech but no programming experience.
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Anonymous wrote:Not in the job market currently but Microsoft recruiter found my resume and LinkedIn profile. He is trying to poach me and said salary can be up to $350k. This is for a DC area position.


What role or skill commands that much salary without even applying?

Cloud architect with TS/SCI clearance.


Yep, now that all of the cloud vendors wone the latest competition, they all need to staff up quickly between poaching from AWS skilled people and also just training anyone with a clearance and a heartbeat.


I have an unrelated BA degree but a TS SCI. Would I need a degree or can certs suffice?


You need to put a bit of effort into this.
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.


Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?


^^ NP working at FAANG. Easiest way to get past the resume screen is to have an internal referral. Any internal referral will do (e.g. doesn't need to be strong glowing recommendation directly to the hiring manager, at my FAANG you just submit a quick form to HR) -- it puts you in a different queue. Almost every candidate we interview comes this way.


Interesting. One of my former coworkers who just had an Associates degree got into FAANG. She was very driven though but I was amazed she did because she stayed at my job 2 months and left. Where do I find these FAANG people?
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How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


They aren’t fine if you aren’t getting through the screening. Redo your resume and study for the interviews. He had none of those things. He worked his way up and it took 20 years.


What are you talking about? By screening I mean the resume screening; I don’t get a chance to code anything. Have you ever applied to Google? You don’t get to code away after applying.

Does he work for Amazon, they do screen any applicant. I’ve turned down their offers because I am not interested in a sweatshop.


You sound difficult. Amazon is not a sweatshop. You need to take what ever you can get and have experience.
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Anonymous wrote:Not in the job market currently but Microsoft recruiter found my resume and LinkedIn profile. He is trying to poach me and said salary can be up to $350k. This is for a DC area position.


What role or skill commands that much salary without even applying?

Cloud architect with TS/SCI clearance.


Yep, now that all of the cloud vendors wone the latest competition, they all need to staff up quickly between poaching from AWS skilled people and also just training anyone with a clearance and a heartbeat.


I have an unrelated BA degree but a TS SCI. Would I need a degree or can certs suffice?


You need to put a bit of effort into this.


Explain?
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.


Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?


You were dumb to turn down Amazon. You need to work on your resume. 40 is no big deal.
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.


Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?


You were dumb to turn down Amazon. You need to work on your resume. 40 is no big deal.


Well, they keep calling for me to reapply. I’ll consider it now that they have higher base salary. Their comp was based on stock rising, but if I had taken It then I would have been in the window when the stock fell, so dodged a bullet. I’m going to call in a favor from college roommate and get referred to Google first.
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


If you were interviewing fine you’d be getting past the screen.


Again, I’m talking about the resume screen. If they call me i move on; had an offer from Amazon but no interest in sweatshop or risking being their hire to fire ( which may be the PP).

I assume we are talking past each other. I mean the resume screen where a device or maybe some HR drone scans your resume and you get connected to a person to talk to. When I talk to somebody, I always move onto interviews and coding challenges, and have gotten a bunch of offers but most not paying the $250k+ I am looking for. I did get a decent offer from Amazon, but it’s so shady as mentioned above I passed on it.

I’m asking as a 40 year old how to get that interview with a top flight tech company and pass the resume screen. I think they have someone looking for graduation dates, and since PP has a recent grad date they get setup to talk to someone. My graduation date is not listed or is from a different century, so is THAT my problem? If I get a recent grad date will it get past the HR drone?


You were dumb to turn down Amazon. You need to work on your resume. 40 is no big deal.


I would be interested in “work on my resume”. I can’t change my grad dates so what exactly are you suggesting?
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Am I underpaid? Software Engineer with 4.5 years of experience, base is 180k, 40k/yr cash bonus, 60k/yr RSU so 280k TC (not including 401k match and benefits)
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


They aren’t fine if you aren’t getting through the screening. Redo your resume and study for the interviews. He had none of those things. He worked his way up and it took 20 years.


What are you talking about? By screening I mean the resume screening; I don’t get a chance to code anything. Have you ever applied to Google? You don’t get to code away after applying.

Does he work for Amazon, they do screen any applicant. I’ve turned down their offers because I am not interested in a sweatshop.


You sound difficult. Amazon is not a sweatshop. You need to take what ever you can get and have experience.


Average tenures at Amazon is 18 months, it is one path to maybe getting into othe FAANGs, but it is hardly guaranteed.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29410451

At 40, I would expect this is the more likely path: https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/amazons-controversial-hire-to-fire-practice-reveals-a-brutal-truth-about-management.html
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Anonymous wrote:FAANG is Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google


How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


They aren’t fine if you aren’t getting through the screening. Redo your resume and study for the interviews. He had none of those things. He worked his way up and it took 20 years.


What are you talking about? By screening I mean the resume screening; I don’t get a chance to code anything. Have you ever applied to Google? You don’t get to code away after applying.

Does he work for Amazon, they do screen any applicant. I’ve turned down their offers because I am not interested in a sweatshop.


You sound difficult. Amazon is not a sweatshop. You need to take what ever you can get and have experience.
He isn't the first to call Amazon a sweatshop-name a company that has bigger rep for this. I can only think of Invertix and perhaps a small handful. They definitely seem like they'll waste people's time to hit diversity regulations.
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How to get into one of these companies? Do I need to get a referral from someone who works there? I have a lot of DoD experience and clearance but not a SDE (as I am not working on cutting edge so I won't be able to compete ). Not sure what other jobs besides SDE I can do as I have a lot of analytical skills etc. Where do you look for FAANG jobs?


Have you tried their websites? Or did you not find jobs listed that match your interest/experience?


It seems like there are a lot of SDE jobs but I have old skills for that job. Maybe I should look under people jobs vs engineering - I might need to start at entry level due to competition and work my way up.


They will never hire someone over 30 for entry level.


Not true. My spouse didn't get his degree and first job till early 40's.



Veteran in cybersecurity?


Nope and nope.


So what is his secret sauce? I’m a computer science major with a degree from an elite university in my 40s and I can’t land a job paying FAANG rates in tech.


My spouse went to a no name college. It is skill. You either are not good or don’t interview well.


Haha, my skills are fine. I interview fine but can’t get past the screen to interview for the high paying companies. How does he get the interview and chance to show that skill? Does he demo a project on GitHub? Or have a project demo from when he was in school?


They aren’t fine if you aren’t getting through the screening. Redo your resume and study for the interviews. He had none of those things. He worked his way up and it took 20 years.


What are you talking about? By screening I mean the resume screening; I don’t get a chance to code anything. Have you ever applied to Google? You don’t get to code away after applying.

Does he work for Amazon, they do screen any applicant. I’ve turned down their offers because I am not interested in a sweatshop.


You sound difficult. Amazon is not a sweatshop. You need to take what ever you can get and have experience.
He isn't the first to call Amazon a sweatshop-name a company that has bigger rep for this. I can only think of Invertix and perhaps a small handful. They definitely seem like they'll waste people's time to hit diversity regulations.


Amazon has a horrible reputation in the tech industry. They greatly increased their pay in the past 1-2 years because they're having difficulty finding talent (all companies are these days, but it is especially pronounced at Amazon). Amazon now pays more than FB/Google at the top end of their bands (350-400k for SDE II, 500-600k for Senior SDE), which is incredible considering Amazon has always been a tier below F/G in terms of prestige, but it's because you will earn every penny working there. I work for a different FAANG and we get tons of ex Amazonians. Could be selection bias since I'm only hearing from the ones who left, but literally every single ex Amazonian I know will bad mouth Amazon at the slightest opportunity. Even some of the current Amazon guys who I'm in contact with say they hate working there and are only staying for the $$$.
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