Why is the Foxhall Community Citizens Association scared of public school children?

[Anonymous]

Quick q: how common are yards in Foxhall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quick q: how common are yards in Foxhall?

Why is that relevant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quick q: how common are yards in Foxhall?

Why is that relevant?

Foxhallers have been claiming that their park space is irreplaceable because their houses have small yards. That line of reasoning shows their complete detachment from the reality of the rest of the city, where lots of people live in rowhouses or even -- gasp! -- high rises yet don't consider city-owned property their personal playground.

What that line of reasoning also ignores is that Foxhall is surrounded by literally thousands of acres of National Park Service land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quick q: how common are yards in Foxhall?

Why is that relevant?

Foxhallers have been claiming that their park space is irreplaceable because their houses have small yards. That line of reasoning shows their complete detachment from the reality of the rest of the city, where lots of people live in rowhouses or even -- gasp! -- high rises yet don't consider city-owned property their personal playground.

What that line of reasoning also ignores is that Foxhall is surrounded by literally thousands of acres of National Park Service land.

Somebody should buy those people a Duck Boat tour so they can see some other parts of the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey Tammy Wynette, how do you feel standing next to your man? That woman-hating nonsense he quoted to the Post must really make your feel good. But, oh, I'm sure he's different in private...

What does this mean? Sounds pretty sexist

The same “Save Hardy Park” post was sent to the neighborhood listserve, so the identity of the author is public knowledge. It also refers to an article in the Washington Post which quoted the FCCA president as saying: “ You have a bunch of stay-at-home moms in Spring Valley and their poor little kids worried about two shifts in the cafeteria.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone use their crystal ball to foretell what all this means for the Key trajectory and Hardy/Wilson over the upcoming years?

The wildcard is how the pandemic ends up affecting enrollment, but based on pre-pandemic trends:

Wilson is on an unsustainable trajectory, 2600 kids by 2026. The only practical way to prune enrollment is to drop a feeder, and that feeder is going to be Hardy. So the most likely scenario is that the Macarthur School is a new high school fed only by Hardy. Hardy will be fed by all of its current feeders plus a new Foxhall school.

MacArthur High will be the riches, whitest high school in the city. It will have a community that's been together since middle school, in many cases since elementary. It will be a good school academically. It will be small by DCPS standards and will struggle to offer a full selection of course offerings and extracurriculars. It probably won't have a football team and its sports will probably be generally weak.

Families in the Hardy feeder pattern are very sensitive to quality, as it is about half of them go private. Starting in about third grade the Hardy feeders see erosion as families leave for private. Having a boutique destination high school will buttress Hardy, and as Hardy improves the feeder schools will increase their capture rate. All of the feeder schools will get an enrollment bump.

This is all assuming that the pandemic doesn't radically change things. And that DCPS doesn't screw things up.

This is unbeleivable. A high school is needed for your richest, whitest kids ????????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone use their crystal ball to foretell what all this means for the Key trajectory and Hardy/Wilson over the upcoming years?

The wildcard is how the pandemic ends up affecting enrollment, but based on pre-pandemic trends:

Wilson is on an unsustainable trajectory, 2600 kids by 2026. The only practical way to prune enrollment is to drop a feeder, and that feeder is going to be Hardy. So the most likely scenario is that the Macarthur School is a new high school fed only by Hardy. Hardy will be fed by all of its current feeders plus a new Foxhall school.

MacArthur High will be the riches, whitest high school in the city. It will have a community that's been together since middle school, in many cases since elementary. It will be a good school academically. It will be small by DCPS standards and will struggle to offer a full selection of course offerings and extracurriculars. It probably won't have a football team and its sports will probably be generally weak.

Families in the Hardy feeder pattern are very sensitive to quality, as it is about half of them go private. Starting in about third grade the Hardy feeders see erosion as families leave for private. Having a boutique destination high school will buttress Hardy, and as Hardy improves the feeder schools will increase their capture rate. All of the feeder schools will get an enrollment bump.

This is all assuming that the pandemic doesn't radically change things. And that DCPS doesn't screw things up.

This is unbeleivable. A high school is needed for your richest, whitest kids ????????

High schools are needed where the students are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey Tammy Wynette, how do you feel standing next to your man? That woman-hating nonsense he quoted to the Post must really make your feel good. But, oh, I'm sure he's different in private...

What does this mean? Sounds pretty sexist

The same “Save Hardy Park” post was sent to the neighborhood listserve, so the identity of the author is public knowledge. It also refers to an article in the Washington Post which quoted the FCCA president as saying: “ You have a bunch of stay-at-home moms in Spring Valley and their poor little kids worried about two shifts in the cafeteria.”

YOu still sound just as sexist. But it made me want to read what she said. I thinks parks are important for people living in the city. OUr park is really important to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone use their crystal ball to foretell what all this means for the Key trajectory and Hardy/Wilson over the upcoming years?

The wildcard is how the pandemic ends up affecting enrollment, but based on pre-pandemic trends:

Wilson is on an unsustainable trajectory, 2600 kids by 2026. The only practical way to prune enrollment is to drop a feeder, and that feeder is going to be Hardy. So the most likely scenario is that the Macarthur School is a new high school fed only by Hardy. Hardy will be fed by all of its current feeders plus a new Foxhall school.

MacArthur High will be the riches, whitest high school in the city. It will have a community that's been together since middle school, in many cases since elementary. It will be a good school academically. It will be small by DCPS standards and will struggle to offer a full selection of course offerings and extracurriculars. It probably won't have a football team and its sports will probably be generally weak.

Families in the Hardy feeder pattern are very sensitive to quality, as it is about half of them go private. Starting in about third grade the Hardy feeders see erosion as families leave for private. Having a boutique destination high school will buttress Hardy, and as Hardy improves the feeder schools will increase their capture rate. All of the feeder schools will get an enrollment bump.

This is all assuming that the pandemic doesn't radically change things. And that DCPS doesn't screw things up.

This is unbeleivable. A high school is needed for your richest, whitest kids ????????

High schools are needed where the students are.

This scenario is the most likely but DCPS will find a way to keep feeding out of boundary students into this new high school so it doesn’t become too rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This means that the 550-student campus will be built on our relatively small park (Hardy Park and Rec Center).

It's not your park.

So I read that whole thing, and I can't tell what the point was. Certainly there was no "aha" moment where I thought, "hmm, she's got a point, I never thought of that..."

So once again, arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people.

I am seriously laughing and enjoying the comment, " arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people." The whole Foxhall fight against the school is totally insane. I live here and it's so nuts ..it not like they are building a garbage dump or nuclear power plant or sewage processor...it's a freaking school which most communities would welcome a new school or community center or stuff along those lines. And um...they say they are using just 5% of the Hardy park so what's the big deal!! Get a grip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey Tammy Wynette, how do you feel standing next to your man? That woman-hating nonsense he quoted to the Post must really make your feel good. But, oh, I'm sure he's different in private...

Do tell! Please give link to article...I'm not a subscriber so a link to one with no pay wall would be better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey Tammy Wynette, how do you feel standing next to your man? That woman-hating nonsense he quoted to the Post must really make your feel good. But, oh, I'm sure he's different in private...

What does this mean? Sounds pretty sexist

The same “Save Hardy Park” post was sent to the neighborhood listserve, so the identity of the author is public knowledge. It also refers to an article in the Washington Post which quoted the FCCA president as saying: “ You have a bunch of stay-at-home moms in Spring Valley and their poor little kids worried about two shifts in the cafeteria.”

YOu still sound just as sexist. But it made me want to read what she said. I thinks parks are important for people living in the city. OUr park is really important to us.

Parks are indeed very important. And if you think this has anything to do with a park, please go back to page one this thread and read the next 20 pages to get caught up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This means that the 550-student campus will be built on our relatively small park (Hardy Park and Rec Center).

It's not your park.

So I read that whole thing, and I can't tell what the point was. Certainly there was no "aha" moment where I thought, "hmm, she's got a point, I never thought of that..."

So once again, arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people.

I am seriously laughing and enjoying the comment, " arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people." The whole Foxhall fight against the school is totally insane. I live here and it's so nuts ..it not like they are building a garbage dump or nuclear power plant or sewage processor...it's a freaking school which most communities would welcome a new school or community center or stuff along those lines. And um...they say they are using just 5% of the Hardy park so what's the big deal!! Get a grip.

But that's the point, isn't it? The FCCA is reacting to a proposal to open a public school in much the same way as it would if the city were planning to build a nuclear waste facility in their backyard. And that tells us all we need to know about what they think of public school children. Once upon a time in Connecticut, a bunch of rich white elitists tried to claim a public space as their own. Here's what happened: https://youtu.be/0zr8rVYlNPk?t=698. Something similar needs to happen to Foxhall and "their" park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This means that the 550-student campus will be built on our relatively small park (Hardy Park and Rec Center).

It's not your park.

So I read that whole thing, and I can't tell what the point was. Certainly there was no "aha" moment where I thought, "hmm, she's got a point, I never thought of that..."

So once again, arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people.

I am seriously laughing and enjoying the comment, " arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people." The whole Foxhall fight against the school is totally insane. I live here and it's so nuts ..it not like they are building a garbage dump or nuclear power plant or sewage processor...it's a freaking school which most communities would welcome a new school or community center or stuff along those lines. And um...they say they are using just 5% of the Hardy park so what's the big deal!! Get a grip.

But that's the point, isn't it? The FCCA is reacting to a proposal to open a public school in much the same way as it would if the city were planning to build a nuclear waste facility in their backyard. And that tells us all we need to know about what they think of public school children. Once upon a time in Connecticut, a bunch of rich white elitists tried to claim a public space as their own. Here's what happened: https://youtu.be/0zr8rVYlNPk?t=698. Something similar needs to happen to Foxhall and "their" park.

The relevant segment is at 11:35.

[Anonymous]

In case you’re curious how that turned out, Greenwich CT’s public beaches are now available to the public.

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/connecticuts-highest-court-rules-favor-public-beach-access-non-residents