So is MOCO just never opening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

E-L-R-I-C-H.

And the point is that restrictions in Montgomery County are ineffective if Hogan allows everyone to go cavort in Ocean City.

Well, we'll see what happens. Ocean City has been open for several weeks at this point and we haven't seen a spike in hospitalizations or deaths. Quite the opposite. I suppose you'll tell me to wait until 3-4 weeks from now, given that we just had Memorial Day weekend, but I doubt we'll see some horrific spike then either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

I know. It makes no sense.

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[Anonymous]

Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

E-L-R-I-C-H.

And the point is that restrictions in Montgomery County are ineffective if Hogan allows everyone to go cavort in Ocean City.

Well, we'll see what happens. Ocean City has been open for several weeks at this point and we haven't seen a spike in hospitalizations or deaths. Quite the opposite. I suppose you'll tell me to wait until 3-4 weeks from now, given that we just had Memorial Day weekend, but I doubt we'll see some horrific spike then either.

By and large, older people get very sick and die from COVID-19. That's not exactly the crowd going to Ocean City.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

E-L-R-I-C-H.

And the point is that restrictions in Montgomery County are ineffective if Hogan allows everyone to go cavort in Ocean City.

Well, we'll see what happens. Ocean City has been open for several weeks at this point and we haven't seen a spike in hospitalizations or deaths. Quite the opposite. I suppose you'll tell me to wait until 3-4 weeks from now, given that we just had Memorial Day weekend, but I doubt we'll see some horrific spike then either.

We won't have to wait until 3-4 weeks from now for the number of cases to go up, but you're right, hospitalizations are a lagging indicator, and deaths an even more lagging one. By the time hospitalizations go up, it's too already too late.

My kid's IG is full of high school seniors doing Beach Week in Ocean City.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

E-L-R-I-C-H.

And the point is that restrictions in Montgomery County are ineffective if Hogan allows everyone to go cavort in Ocean City.

Well, we'll see what happens. Ocean City has been open for several weeks at this point and we haven't seen a spike in hospitalizations or deaths. Quite the opposite. I suppose you'll tell me to wait until 3-4 weeks from now, given that we just had Memorial Day weekend, but I doubt we'll see some horrific spike then either.

By and large, older people get very sick and die from COVID-19. That's not exactly the crowd going to Ocean City.

People who get sick and die from covid-19: primarily older people
People who can get covid-19: everybody
People who can infect other people with covid-19: everybody

It's an infectious disease. That's how infectious diseases work. They're diseases that are infectious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

I think the communication from MoCo is fine; it's the criteria that are stupid.

It's also worth noting a couple things:

1. MoCo is not in the same situation as PG County; PG County is doing much worse than MoCo.

2. Even so, PG County has started to reopen a bit.

The bulk of the impact on MoCo is in Silver Spring and is among older residents, especially nursing home residents. They account for about 70% of our deaths. The only hospitals that have been overwhelmed in MoCo have been in Silver Spring and one in Germantown. There's a clearly concentrated area where the impact has been. No sense from Elrich or Gayles that they are focusing on those areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

E-L-R-I-C-H.

And the point is that restrictions in Montgomery County are ineffective if Hogan allows everyone to go cavort in Ocean City.

Well, we'll see what happens. Ocean City has been open for several weeks at this point and we haven't seen a spike in hospitalizations or deaths. Quite the opposite. I suppose you'll tell me to wait until 3-4 weeks from now, given that we just had Memorial Day weekend, but I doubt we'll see some horrific spike then either.

We won't have to wait until 3-4 weeks from now for the number of cases to go up, but you're right, hospitalizations are a lagging indicator, and deaths an even more lagging one. By the time hospitalizations go up, it's too already too late.

My kid's IG is full of high school seniors doing Beach Week in Ocean City.

And you know what? They will almost certainly been fine if they get COVID.

MD's hospitalizations have gone down, despite cases going up. Why? Because cases have skewed younger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

Lack of communication? I'm getting multiple daily e-mails. This councilmember, that councilmember, this department, that department, this spokesperson, that newsletter... Not to mention everything all over social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t get is Erlich demanding the right to keep MOCo closed and two weeks later, complaining Hogan allowed him to do that.

E-L-R-I-C-H.

And the point is that restrictions in Montgomery County are ineffective if Hogan allows everyone to go cavort in Ocean City.

Well, we'll see what happens. Ocean City has been open for several weeks at this point and we haven't seen a spike in hospitalizations or deaths. Quite the opposite. I suppose you'll tell me to wait until 3-4 weeks from now, given that we just had Memorial Day weekend, but I doubt we'll see some horrific spike then either.

We won't have to wait until 3-4 weeks from now for the number of cases to go up, but you're right, hospitalizations are a lagging indicator, and deaths an even more lagging one. By the time hospitalizations go up, it's too already too late.

My kid's IG is full of high school seniors doing Beach Week in Ocean City.

And you know what? They will almost certainly been fine if they get COVID.

MD's hospitalizations have gone down, despite cases going up. Why? Because cases have skewed younger.

If you want to keep them all in quarantine in Ocean City until they've recovered from covid and are no longer infectious, I'm fine with that. But they're not going to stay in Ocean City; they're going to come home and spread the infection. We could have crushed the spread for the benefit of everybody in society, but evidently that was too hard for too many people, and so instead the more vulnerable among our population are going to have to stay home for the foreseeable future with no end in sight. But, you know, Beach Week!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

Lack of communication? I'm getting multiple daily e-mails. This councilmember, that councilmember, this department, that department, this spokesperson, that newsletter... Not to mention everything all over social media.

I checked the county's twitter page. No update or clue posted today about when tf we'll open. I'm in a part of town where there are over 1,000 positives. Most of those cases are in nursing homes. Itis becoming clear that there is no plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

Lack of communication? I'm getting multiple daily e-mails. This councilmember, that councilmember, this department, that department, this spokesperson, that newsletter... Not to mention everything all over social media.

NP - I get the comms too. What I don’t get are clear guidance on what metrics they are really using to make a decision. Maybe that is purposeful as you can go either direction

There is also no transparency on the nursing home data even though published at state level

So it’s a lot of communicate to communicate, but not giving the real information on decisions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

Lack of communication? I'm getting multiple daily e-mails. This councilmember, that councilmember, this department, that department, this spokesperson, that newsletter... Not to mention everything all over social media.

I don't get the emails (lucky me?). I just checked the Montgomery County Government facebook page and saw information- thanks for pointing me in that direction. I suppose I want them to communicate with us how much closer we are to opening, not opening and to compare daily number to their reopening criteria. Honestly the Moco show guy does a million times better job at communicating this information to us.
I suppose I want to know when we will see light at the end of the tunnel, or even where the tunnel ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

Lack of communication? I'm getting multiple daily e-mails. This councilmember, that councilmember, this department, that department, this spokesperson, that newsletter... Not to mention everything all over social media.

NP - I get the comms too. What I don’t get are clear guidance on what metrics they are really using to make a decision. Maybe that is purposeful as you can go either direction

There is also no transparency on the nursing home data even though published at state level

So it’s a lot of communicate to communicate, but not giving the real information on decisions

Here's the data dashboard: https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/HHS/RightNav/Coronavirus-data.html

Here's yesterday's Bethesda Beat piece about the data in the dashboard: https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/coronavirus/covid-19-hospitalizations-falling-consistently-in-montgomery-county-this-month/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Howard County is reopening more starting on Friday. I think Hogan is and did a good job. Montgomery and PG county's needs are far different than Garret's or Worchester's.

What I don't like is that lack of communication from Montgomery County.

Lack of communication? I'm getting multiple daily e-mails. This councilmember, that councilmember, this department, that department, this spokesperson, that newsletter... Not to mention everything all over social media.

I don't get the emails (lucky me?). I just checked the Montgomery County Government facebook page and saw information- thanks for pointing me in that direction. I suppose I want them to communicate with us how much closer we are to opening, not opening and to compare daily number to their reopening criteria. Honestly the Moco show guy does a million times better job at communicating this information to us.
I suppose I want to know when we will see light at the end of the tunnel, or even where the tunnel ends.

PP, everyone wants to know that, but unfortunately nobody has yet invented crystal ball that actually works.