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Anonymous wrote:Let's see if MITRE has more layoffs and they close Bldgs to match the reduction


More likely they will release leased office space elsewhere in Tysons...
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Anonymous wrote:This all will pass in a year. Are FFRDCs a bit bloated? Probably. Is it worth the risk to demolish them? No. Freeze their ceiling and step up audits.


What risk? Are you paying attention to what's happening in government?


If there’s another terrorist attack after all of these RIFs and resignations, who has the analytic shop to advise on what to do next? That shop takes decades to cultivate. Get rid of it and see what alternatives you have. That my friend is the risk.


How many analysts sit around twiddling their thumbs?


I have noticed staff from some of the studies and analysis FFRDCs are very very young - like a year out of undergrad + 1 year MA in security studies. They have no work experience besides writing a term paper or two in school.

Are these the folks my office is shelling out $800k+ to advise us on grand strategy with a 70%+ multiplier for overhead?


There's one FFRDC... that won't be named... who seems to be hiring a lot of very young, inexperienced FTE and placing them on our task orders. They are energetic but their work just isn't sophisticated, on average. What's worse, it seems this particular FFRDC is now letting these kiddos talk to news outlets and write articles in the press with minimal supervision... often about topics related to the task orders we are paying them to do. Sometimes they are saying the most idiotic things to get attention and I know the report we paid them for will have their names as coauthors on it, which just invites the current administration to give us even more hassle. It's incredibly frustrating.





Sounds like RAND. That’s one reason we’re not using them….


They also have fellows that were running around the pentagon spouting off about stuff they knew little about.
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Mitre has required people who have offices to be in office at least 3 days a week if not more for many years now. Policy changed prior to this administration.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's see if MITRE has more layoffs and they close Bldgs to match the reduction


More likely they will release leased office space elsewhere in Tysons...


NITRE has very few leased office spaces left, if any. Moreover they own the 4 buildings in Tysons.

They will have to find tenants for their existing spaces (which won't be easy), and likely consolidate operations into a smaller footprint.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's see if MITRE has more layoffs and they close Bldgs to match the reduction


More likely they will release leased office space elsewhere in Tysons...


NITRE has very few leased office spaces left, if any. Moreover they own the 4 buildings in Tysons.

They will have to find tenants for their existing spaces (which won't be easy), and likely consolidate operations into a smaller footprint.


Isn’t MITRE an R&D FFRDC? Don’t they need physical lab space?
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Anonymous wrote:Let's see if MITRE has more layoffs and they close Bldgs to match the reduction


More likely they will release leased office space elsewhere in Tysons...


NITRE has very few leased office spaces left, if any. Moreover they own the 4 buildings in Tysons.

They will have to find tenants for their existing spaces (which won't be easy), and likely consolidate operations into a smaller footprint.


Isn’t MITRE an R&D FFRDC? Don’t they need physical lab space?


I think most of their "labs" just have racks with electronics and computers. They are not primarily chemistry-type labs.
Anonymous
Mitre was a powerhouse only a few years ago and now it's laying off folks and struggling to keep their buildings. Jesus.
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I agree. It's sad.
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Anonymous wrote:Mitre was a powerhouse only a few years ago and now it's laying off folks and struggling to keep their buildings. Jesus.


Not really because Mitre grew too quickly and hired more staff than positions open. Also, in its early years, Mitre hired very technical engineers, SMEs and specialized staff but as it grew and evolved, Mitre took on similar work as for-profit government contractors and hired from the same pool of candidates (contract staff and former feds). But, as PPs pointed out, FFRDC staff carry a lot of overhead to perform similar work.
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Anonymous wrote:Mitre was a powerhouse only a few years ago and now it's laying off folks and struggling to keep their buildings. Jesus.


Not really because Mitre grew too quickly and hired more staff than positions open. Also, in its early years, Mitre hired very technical engineers, SMEs and specialized staff but as it grew and evolved, Mitre took on similar work as for-profit government contractors and hired from the same pool of candidates (contract staff and former feds). But, as PPs pointed out, FFRDC staff carry a lot of overhead to perform similar work.


This sounds kind of similar to what is happening at RAND. The current CEO (ironically also named Jason) has hired technical staff to quickly grow into AI policy, which all caries a lot of overhead. The only difference is that for some reason RAND's CEO took their FFRDCs for granted thinking they would always be printing money. Philanthropy became the primary focus. Under Trump, this approach has been a disaster and we seem to be headed for some serious RIFs.
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So far, over 1,000 MITRE employees laid off and more RIFs might come in summer/fall. The"new normal" under Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:Mitre was a powerhouse only a few years ago and now it's laying off folks and struggling to keep their buildings. Jesus.


Not really because Mitre grew too quickly and hired more staff than positions open. Also, in its early years, Mitre hired very technical engineers, SMEs and specialized staff but as it grew and evolved, Mitre took on similar work as for-profit government contractors and hired from the same pool of candidates (contract staff and former feds). But, as PPs pointed out, FFRDC staff carry a lot of overhead to perform similar work.


This. A former colleague was a Fed and part of his job duties was limiting the number of inexperienced new grads, who knew relatively little, that Mitre assigned to their part of the DoD.

Mitre originally had a minimal number of new grads and primarily hired genuine experts in various fields, and then had those experts actually doing work in their field. This started to fall apart in the Defense boom of the late 1980s when Mitre shifted to hiring tons of new grads and a surprisingly high number of “PhDs” from either no-name colleges or online PhD programs (rather than a PhD from VT or UMCP or similar quality universities). Yes, there still are some very good people at Mitre and many today have legitimate PhDs with an actual dissertation and refereed publications as a grad student — but Mitre does not today have the same overall quality as it did back in the 1970s or early 1980s.

MIT/LL has not grown as much or as quickly as Mitre, and also has done a better job of maintaining overall quality.
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Anonymous wrote:So far, over 1,000 MITRE employees laid off and more RIFs might come in summer/fall. The"new normal" under Trump.


No, Mitre always laid off employees when work levels were low... it was quietly handled and not obvious. I was laid off apx. 10+ years ago, along with several colleagues, because Mitre couldn't find me a suitable assignment that wasn't 30-50+ miles away. I could not commute from NoVA to sites in Maryland with strict school and daycare pickup schedules. Mitre called me back within a few weeks to ask me to return to a local assignment but I had already started another job (that I still hold today).

As PP said, Mitre recently hired too many employees. Unfortunately some long-time staff were let go in favor of the younger and cheaper... but that is a topic for another thread.
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CNA is downsizing.
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Anonymous wrote:CNA is downsizing.


Oh my. Geese. How many impacted?
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