What’s going on at Wootton?

[Anonymous]

Teacher here. DCC high school. Black kids use the N word all the time. I have not heard a non-black kid use it.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. DCC high school. Black kids use the N word all the time. I have not heard a non-black kid use it.

A Wootton parent here. My kid (minority and non Black) heard that Black kids say the N-words all the time on bus or on campus. She is not aware of other kids saying it. Just an anecdotal observation.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

Tge tide is turning so try to catch up. 30 years ago we had the n word debate in my uni. Back then, it was generally accepted that black people reclaiming the word was a positive but whites should not say it. That was largely because white people were widely using the n word in a derogatory manner. Today that's not the case. I have never heard a non black use that word as a slur in about 30 years.
I have heard black people use it freely towards both other blacks and to whites. Always in a manner that csn be considered endearing or familiar.

The words been reclaimed and changed. Time to stop the white savior bs and admit the black community killed the original meaning of the words themselves without the teary victim mentality some try to impsose on the community.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

I know several black parents who use the word. I don't believe you dont.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

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ng that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

So what do you think MCPS's official policy should be regarding the use of the word, by anyone?

Does mcps go to these extremes for other slurs?

No, they don't. Either ban every slur or. Ban no slurs. Making one group more protected than other groups drives wedges where there weren't any.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. DCC high school. Black kids use the N word all the time. I have not heard a non-black kid use it.

I never hear that are you sure you're a teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

Tge tide is turning so try to catch up. 30 years ago we had the n word debate in my uni. Back then, it was generally accepted that black people reclaiming the word was a positive but whites should not say it. That was largely because white people were widely using the n word in a derogatory manner. Today that's not the case. I have never heard a non black use that word as a slur in about 30 years.
I have heard black people use it freely towards both other blacks and to whites. Always in a manner that csn be considered endearing or familiar.

The words been reclaimed and changed. Time to stop the white savior bs and admit the black community killed the original meaning of the words themselves without the teary victim mentality some try to impsose on the community.

Do you read the news? These are all separate incidents, by the way.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/25/632191533/ga-lawmaker-resigns-after-dropping-pants-shouting-slurs-on-sacha-baron-cohen-sho
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/md-legislative-black-caucus-to-meet-with-lawmaker-accused-of-using-the-n-word/2019/02/25/b66a5850-38fe-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html
https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2024/11/17/pro-gun-advocate-drops-the-n-word-during-testimony-to-michigan-senate-committee/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-lawmaker-uses-racist-slur-recorded-council-meeting-faces-calls-n1274603

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one isdon't.

ng that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

So what do you think MCPS's official policy should be regarding the use of the word, by anyone?

Does mcps go to these extremes for other slurs?

No, they don't. Either ban every slur or. Ban no slurs. Making one group more protected than other groups drives wedges where there weren't any.

Other slurs ARE banned. Why would you think they aren't?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one isdon't.

ng that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

So what do you think MCPS's official policy should be regarding the use of the word, by anyone?

Does mcps go to these extremes for other slurs?

No, they don't. Either ban every slur or. Ban no slurs. Making one group more protected than other groups drives wedges where there weren't any.

Other slurs ARE banned. Why would you think they aren't?

When's the last time we had a parent meeting and fired a principal over the 100 times a day at every school some kid calls something or someone "gay" when the target isn't interested in romancing in-gender?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. DCC high school. Black kids use the N word all the time. I have not heard a non-black kid use it.

I never hear that are you sure you're a teacher?

dp.. my kids are at RM (not black), and they say they hear it all the time from black kids. They never hear it from non black kids, and my kids know not to use it.

I went to a majority minority HS with lots of black kids, and they used it *a lot*.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened at Wootton is no different than the N Word card incident at Churchill that made national news about 6 years ago. Dr. Moran was Director then. Churchill had a meeting similar to the Wootton meeting tonight. Dr. Moran speaks a good speech but there was little action taken to create a meaningful change at Churchill. I’m not expecting much to change at Wootton.

Frankly, MCPS should have a K to 12 plan for teaching respect for all students and staff including a plan to end bullying and racism in all schools. Why is MCPS always reacting to hate incidents instead of preventing them?

+1. I'm on my third kid through Churchill and had one there at the time that kids thought it was fun to be handing out N Word cards. I haven't seen any change over those many years. My current student says Black kids won't speak up or report bad behavior because they'll be ostracized by the majority. But DC complains about kids saying inappropriate things regularly. (DC is also impressed that Wootton kids took action and seemingly got something done.)

What did they get done, besides a round of musical chairs at the Principal's desk? Are Black students going to stop writing the N-word now?

i've no idea about how often the black kids use it as a term of empowerment (sort of). but I do know that white kids have yelled it at my black kid at school events. and that white kids regularly say things besides this particular word that are racist on their face. i'm less worried about the former (which is often not done in a hateful way or intended to denigrate) than the latter (which clearly are both). this is the point. every white kid (and parent) knows that aiming that word at a minority is done to humiliate or put them down. there's literally no reason to use that word unless you're okay with this outcome. why people on this board openly and repeatedly say that is acceptable is beyond me.

No one is saying that it's acceptable. Some people have reported that they hear/see the word being used often in schools and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Perhaps you don't find it acceptable, but clearly there are people on this board who draw an equivalence between the way Black people use the term and the way White people do.

LOL. So it's fine when black kids say the n-word to each other, but if a non-black person tries to fit in with them and say the exact same word and trying to be cool, the non-black kid will be branded forever as racist??!?!?

WTF!!!! YOU'RE CRAZY!!!!

If you cannot see why a non-black kid cannot say the word, you're dumber than I thought, and this area is supposed to be well educated??
-White person

Tge tide is turning so try to catch up. 30 years ago we had the n word debate in my uni. Back then, it was generally accepted that black people reclaiming the word was a positive but whites should not say it. That was largely because white people were widely using the n word in a derogatory manner. Today that's not the case. I have never heard a non black use that word as a slur in about 30 years.
I have heard black people use it freely towards both other blacks and to whites. Always in a manner that csn be considered endearing or familiar.

The words been reclaimed and changed. Time to stop the white savior bs and admit the black community killed the original meaning of the words themselves without the teary victim mentality some try to impsose on the community.

Do you read the news? These are all separate incidents, by the way.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/25/632191533/ga-lawmaker-resigns-after-dropping-pants-shouting-slurs-on-sacha-baron-cohen-sho
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/md-legislative-black-caucus-to-meet-with-lawmaker-accused-of-using-the-n-word/2019/02/25/b66a5850-38fe-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html
https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2024/11/17/pro-gun-advocate-drops-the-n-word-during-testimony-to-michigan-senate-committee/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-lawmaker-uses-racist-slur-recorded-council-meeting-faces-calls-n1274603

dp.. but you don't really hear it from non black people around here, a very progressive area. If you did, it would be big news, and the person would be outed.

[Anonymous]

I grew up in Frederick county. I heard some whites people use the N-word (hard R) quite regularly especially when describing DC. Clan was still active and having rallies.

Most black kids use the soft N-word, but I also hear the hard R version from them especially when they are mad at someone. The hard R version is much more common in rap/hiphop now than even a few years ago. So, the kids are using it more.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. DCC high school. Black kids use the N word all the time. I have not heard a non-black kid use it.

I never hear that are you sure you're a teacher?

dp.. my kids are at RM (not black), and they say they hear it all the time from black kids. They never hear it from non black kids, and my kids know not to use it.

I went to a majority minority HS with lots of black kids, and they used it *a lot*.

I work at a nearby HS and have never heard it. Seems like you are making this up to push your agenda.