If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Jon Benet was molested and killed by her older brother and the family covered it up. My father was one of the lead investigators.


I need more please. I really want to know how your father knew this, with facts, and how this never came out. Please.


DP. I met a psychologist at a conference many years after the case who had been an expert consultant. She said the mother was molesting her, and Jon Benet would have told her to stop or resisted in some way. Likely she had learned at school that it was inappropriate. The woman said her mom would have felt like it was her arm telling her it wanted to amputate itself. Like she was so enmeshed her daughter’s “rebellion” was like losing a body part, and that scared her enough to kill her.


What? No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jon Benet was molested and killed by her older brother and the family covered it up. My father was one of the lead investigators.


I need more please. I really want to know how your father knew this, with facts, and how this never came out. Please.


DP. I met a psychologist at a conference many years after the case who had been an expert consultant. She said the mother was molesting her, and Jon Benet would have told her to stop or resisted in some way. Likely she had learned at school that it was inappropriate. The woman said her mom would have felt like it was her arm telling her it wanted to amputate itself. Like she was so enmeshed her daughter’s “rebellion” was like losing a body part, and that scared her enough to kill her.


Ok this makes sense. In all the interviews, Patsy comes across as lying and cray.


Yeah, but she also comes across as drugged.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Were the Menendez brothers legitimately molested by their Father or did they just use the “abuse excuse” to try to avoid prison time??

OF COURSE THEY WERE MOLESTED.

If not - they did a pretty decent acting performance during their first trial.

Their recent claims that the main reason the killed their parents was because they were afraid their Father was going to murder them so they killed their parents as a form of self~defense.

But they were both adults - if they truly feared for their lives they could have just left home.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF ABUSE.

And why did they feel the need to spend so. much. money so soon after being forced to shoot their parents in self-defense?

IT WAS THE LATE 80S IN BEVERLY HILLS. THIS WAS THE CULTURE. EVERYONE WAS SPENDING LIKE THIS.

When if the letter to the cousin re: being molested was intentionally written 9 mos. prior to the murders as part of the murder plan?
When if they had planned the murders ahead of time then waited the nine mos. so the letter could not be used as a motive for the murder in its initial stage??

OCCUM'S RAZOR. YOU THINK THEY PLANNED THIS FOR 9 MONTHS? NO WAY.

Why did Erik confess to murdering his folks to his therapist yet made no mention of being molested?
I mean, if you feel comfortable confessing something as huge as murdering your own parents to a therapist then you should also feel 💯% comfortable discussing sexual abuse.

NO.

I am the same age as the brothers are now (55) and I disagree with the fact that sexual molestation was super taboo during 1989.
While it wasn’t discussed as much as it is these days - it certainly wasn’t taboo.

I'M 54. IT WAS VERY MUCH TABOO, ESPECIALLY FOR MEN.

I would love to know the mystery of if any incest actually took place prior to the murders….


Still, they were 18 and 21 when they shot their parents. They could have easily rented a place together, so whatever happened in the house doesn't excuse the horrible crime. Remember they also threatened to kill their shrink. These two should never be released.

+1 And if you believe they were abused and they’re justified for killing their father, it’s not an excuse for killing their mother.


A mother who allows this to happen to her children deserves it even more than the one who committed the abuse. The abuser is clearly sick. The mother? She allowed it because it was easier for her. Hotter place in hell for her. Plenty of reason, let alone excuse, to kill her.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel like Burke accidentally whacking JB too hard is most likely scenario, but what trips me up here is the staging of the body afterward. I can maybe see the parent(s) applying the duct tape and wrist ties... but not the business with the garotte and the paintbrush, nor can I see a little kid Burke's age coming up with that. I just can't picture loving parents doing that to their child even as part of staging a crime scene.


I just watched the first episode and it doesn’t add up. Her wrists were not lightly bound; but very tight. Those neck wounds from the garret (which took quite a bit of skill). She was alive when the garter was made (her hair was caught in it) and the neck torture occurred at about the same time as the head trauma. The autopsy tells a story of torture, not an accidental wack on the head after she stole a piece of Burke’s pineapple or a “cover up.” Patsy comes across as a complete liar and the Fad comes across as innocent-ish. Burke is clearly autistic but that doesn’t make him a psychopath. I would pick Patsy if it wasn’t for the sexual assault with the paintbrush. It had to be the Dad.


And the fact that the police got the DNA results that exonerated all three Ramseys and suppressed that? That DNA was found under her fingernails and on her underwear that belonged to an unidentified male? And that Boulder police planted stories with friendly reporters that were fake implying the Ramseys did it?



Do you have more info about the DNA? I had read that it was “touch DNA” that could have been from whoever manufactured the underwear, and that it was not enough to make the police think anyone else had really touched her body


Under her fingernails too?

The police were obsessed with explaining away the DNA and tried to trace it back to the manufacturer. But how would that have gotten under her nails?


I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking if you read anything different. I didn’t read that it was this large amount of DNA or even that it was skin under her nails. Just the same touch DNA which I read could have been just from her putting on the new underwear with her hands. But I don’t know of course.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am thinking about how I would handle this as a parent if god forbid one of my kids was killed in my house and their siblings were here as well. I think I would definitely do everything I could to shield them from what is going on to lessen the trauma on them. I would not interrogate them and I would send them to a trusted friend's house. Burke was only 9. He was not a teenager.

I do not think it was anyone in the family, though they were a weird family. Again, I think it was someone close to them, probably the guy who dressed up as Santa (who is dead now.)


but if you believe the DNA exonerated the parents, then it also exonerates the Santa because it did not match him either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Were the Menendez brothers legitimately molested by their Father or did they just use the “abuse excuse” to try to avoid prison time??

OF COURSE THEY WERE MOLESTED.

If not - they did a pretty decent acting performance during their first trial.

Their recent claims that the main reason the killed their parents was because they were afraid their Father was going to murder them so they killed their parents as a form of self~defense.

But they were both adults - if they truly feared for their lives they could have just left home.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF ABUSE.

And why did they feel the need to spend so. much. money so soon after being forced to shoot their parents in self-defense?

IT WAS THE LATE 80S IN BEVERLY HILLS. THIS WAS THE CULTURE. EVERYONE WAS SPENDING LIKE THIS.

When if the letter to the cousin re: being molested was intentionally written 9 mos. prior to the murders as part of the murder plan?
When if they had planned the murders ahead of time then waited the nine mos. so the letter could not be used as a motive for the murder in its initial stage??

OCCUM'S RAZOR. YOU THINK THEY PLANNED THIS FOR 9 MONTHS? NO WAY.

Why did Erik confess to murdering his folks to his therapist yet made no mention of being molested?
I mean, if you feel comfortable confessing something as huge as murdering your own parents to a therapist then you should also feel 💯% comfortable discussing sexual abuse.

NO.

I am the same age as the brothers are now (55) and I disagree with the fact that sexual molestation was super taboo during 1989.
While it wasn’t discussed as much as it is these days - it certainly wasn’t taboo.

I'M 54. IT WAS VERY MUCH TABOO, ESPECIALLY FOR MEN.

I would love to know the mystery of if any incest actually took place prior to the murders….


Still, they were 18 and 21 when they shot their parents. They could have easily rented a place together, so whatever happened in the house doesn't excuse the horrible crime. Remember they also threatened to kill their shrink. These two should never be released.

+1 And if you believe they were abused and they’re justified for killing their father, it’s not an excuse for killing their mother.


A mother who allows this to happen to her children deserves it even more than the one who committed the abuse. The abuser is clearly sick. The mother? She allowed it because it was easier for her. Hotter place in hell for her. Plenty of reason, let alone excuse, to kill her.


I’m sorry but this sort of anti woman BS makes my blood boil. So a father repeatedly r*pes his son, and the mother is too scared to stop it, and the MOTHER deserves MORE blame than… the r*pist? What??
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:How the royal family had Diana killed in Paris and made it look like an accident. The only person who survived was Diana's Met protection officer.



Same. The chauffeur's family and friends emphatically stated he did not drink, but the authorities claimed his blood alcohol level was very high. Uh, huh.


I think to royal family sold Diana out, just like they did Megan and Harry, and intentionally put their her/lives in danger. I don't know they purposefully intended for it to kill Diana and/or Megan but were rather indifferent. Their selling stories, lapses in security and open hostility to anyone other than Charles/William and their immediate orbit. The family is totally bizarly coddling Camila and catherine but destroyed Diana and Megan. I believe in our lifetime the truth will come out about how $hitty that family is and what they've done to destroy Diana. The truth behind what they did to Megan will come in my children's lifetime.
Anonymous
Here's a new addition to who really killed Kennedy. A Dallas policeman who knew both Oswald and Jack Ruby (who was allowed to be so close to Oswald to kill him). Makes a lot of sense that a Dallas policeman was involved.

https://l.smartnews.com/p-13yrTFb/2CONeL
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How the royal family had Diana killed in Paris and made it look like an accident. The only person who survived was Diana's Met protection officer.



Same. The chauffeur's family and friends emphatically stated he did not drink, but the authorities claimed his blood alcohol level was very high. Uh, huh.


I think to royal family sold Diana out, just like they did Megan and Harry, and intentionally put their her/lives in danger. I don't know they purposefully intended for it to kill Diana and/or Megan but were rather indifferent. Their selling stories, lapses in security and open hostility to anyone other than Charles/William and their immediate orbit. The family is totally bizarly coddling Camila and catherine but destroyed Diana and Megan. I believe in our lifetime the truth will come out about how $hitty that family is and what they've done to destroy Diana. The truth behind what they did to Megan will come in my children's lifetime.


You people are crazy! Get a life. Diana died for one very simple reason: she was not wearing her seat belt. The only person who didn't die was Trevor Rees-Jones, her bodyguard, because he did wear him seat belt. As for Meghan and Harry, world class whiners and narcissists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Were the Menendez brothers legitimately molested by their Father or did they just use the “abuse excuse” to try to avoid prison time??

OF COURSE THEY WERE MOLESTED.

If not - they did a pretty decent acting performance during their first trial.

Their recent claims that the main reason the killed their parents was because they were afraid their Father was going to murder them so they killed their parents as a form of self~defense.

But they were both adults - if they truly feared for their lives they could have just left home.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF ABUSE.

And why did they feel the need to spend so. much. money so soon after being forced to shoot their parents in self-defense?

IT WAS THE LATE 80S IN BEVERLY HILLS. THIS WAS THE CULTURE. EVERYONE WAS SPENDING LIKE THIS.

When if the letter to the cousin re: being molested was intentionally written 9 mos. prior to the murders as part of the murder plan?
When if they had planned the murders ahead of time then waited the nine mos. so the letter could not be used as a motive for the murder in its initial stage??

OCCUM'S RAZOR. YOU THINK THEY PLANNED THIS FOR 9 MONTHS? NO WAY.

Why did Erik confess to murdering his folks to his therapist yet made no mention of being molested?
I mean, if you feel comfortable confessing something as huge as murdering your own parents to a therapist then you should also feel 💯% comfortable discussing sexual abuse.

NO.

I am the same age as the brothers are now (55) and I disagree with the fact that sexual molestation was super taboo during 1989.
While it wasn’t discussed as much as it is these days - it certainly wasn’t taboo.

I'M 54. IT WAS VERY MUCH TABOO, ESPECIALLY FOR MEN.

I would love to know the mystery of if any incest actually took place prior to the murders….


Still, they were 18 and 21 when they shot their parents. They could have easily rented a place together, so whatever happened in the house doesn't excuse the horrible crime. Remember they also threatened to kill their shrink. These two should never be released.

+1 And if you believe they were abused and they’re justified for killing their father, it’s not an excuse for killing their mother.


A mother who allows this to happen to her children deserves it even more than the one who committed the abuse. The abuser is clearly sick. The mother? She allowed it because it was easier for her. Hotter place in hell for her. Plenty of reason, let alone excuse, to kill her.


I’m sorry but this sort of anti woman BS makes my blood boil. So a father repeatedly r*pes his son, and the mother is too scared to stop it, and the MOTHER deserves MORE blame than… the r*pist? What??


What? This is an anti-woman at all. You cannot bring children into this world and then fail to protect them to that degree. Full stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am thinking about how I would handle this as a parent if god forbid one of my kids was killed in my house and their siblings were here as well. I think I would definitely do everything I could to shield them from what is going on to lessen the trauma on them. I would not interrogate them and I would send them to a trusted friend's house. Burke was only 9. He was not a teenager.

I do not think it was anyone in the family, though they were a weird family. Again, I think it was someone close to them, probably the guy who dressed up as Santa (who is dead now.)


but if you believe the DNA exonerated the parents, then it also exonerates the Santa because it did not match him either.


If you watch the Netflix series, John Ramsay recently petitioned the state to retest the DNA and test items that hadn’t been tested yet. He hopes that DNA advances will allow a positive ID.
Anonymous
JFK because of the implications that resonate to this day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Were the Menendez brothers legitimately molested by their Father or did they just use the “abuse excuse” to try to avoid prison time??

OF COURSE THEY WERE MOLESTED.

If not - they did a pretty decent acting performance during their first trial.

Their recent claims that the main reason the killed their parents was because they were afraid their Father was going to murder them so they killed their parents as a form of self~defense.

But they were both adults - if they truly feared for their lives they could have just left home.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF ABUSE.

And why did they feel the need to spend so. much. money so soon after being forced to shoot their parents in self-defense?

IT WAS THE LATE 80S IN BEVERLY HILLS. THIS WAS THE CULTURE. EVERYONE WAS SPENDING LIKE THIS.

When if the letter to the cousin re: being molested was intentionally written 9 mos. prior to the murders as part of the murder plan?
When if they had planned the murders ahead of time then waited the nine mos. so the letter could not be used as a motive for the murder in its initial stage??

OCCUM'S RAZOR. YOU THINK THEY PLANNED THIS FOR 9 MONTHS? NO WAY.

Why did Erik confess to murdering his folks to his therapist yet made no mention of being molested?
I mean, if you feel comfortable confessing something as huge as murdering your own parents to a therapist then you should also feel 💯% comfortable discussing sexual abuse.

NO.

I am the same age as the brothers are now (55) and I disagree with the fact that sexual molestation was super taboo during 1989.
While it wasn’t discussed as much as it is these days - it certainly wasn’t taboo.

I'M 54. IT WAS VERY MUCH TABOO, ESPECIALLY FOR MEN.

I would love to know the mystery of if any incest actually took place prior to the murders….


Still, they were 18 and 21 when they shot their parents. They could have easily rented a place together, so whatever happened in the house doesn't excuse the horrible crime. Remember they also threatened to kill their shrink. These two should never be released.

+1 And if you believe they were abused and they’re justified for killing their father, it’s not an excuse for killing their mother.


A mother who allows this to happen to her children deserves it even more than the one who committed the abuse. The abuser is clearly sick. The mother? She allowed it because it was easier for her. Hotter place in hell for her. Plenty of reason, let alone excuse, to kill her.


I’m sorry but this sort of anti woman BS makes my blood boil. So a father repeatedly r*pes his son, and the mother is too scared to stop it, and the MOTHER deserves MORE blame than… the r*pist? What??


What? This is an anti-woman at all. You cannot bring children into this world and then fail to protect them to that degree. Full stop.


But the father also brought them into this world and actively raped and tortured them. And yet the mother , according to PP, deserves MORE blame than the father despite the father being the actual rapist. Tell me how this is not anti woman.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am thinking about how I would handle this as a parent if god forbid one of my kids was killed in my house and their siblings were here as well. I think I would definitely do everything I could to shield them from what is going on to lessen the trauma on them. I would not interrogate them and I would send them to a trusted friend's house. Burke was only 9. He was not a teenager.

I do not think it was anyone in the family, though they were a weird family. Again, I think it was someone close to them, probably the guy who dressed up as Santa (who is dead now.)


but if you believe the DNA exonerated the parents, then it also exonerates the Santa because it did not match him either.


If you watch the Netflix series, John Ramsay recently petitioned the state to retest the DNA and test items that hadn’t been tested yet. He hopes that DNA advances will allow a positive ID.

I hope so too
Anonymous
Ylva Hagner - Disappeared in 1996. My parents were friends with the “professor” in question.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/bay-area-nasa-worker-probed-disappearance-18102740.php
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