ENCL Nationals - Girls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some underpaid and overworked coach pulling late social media duties clearly did not care to do any research.

BSC 3 in playoffs (2 CL)
MDU 2 in playofss (0 CL)

I doubt coaches on here despite what people say. Most would not be able to write or put a sentence together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some underpaid and overworked coach pulling late social media duties clearly did not care to do any research.

BSC 3 in playoffs (2 CL)
MDU 2 in playofss (0 CL)

I doubt coaches on here despite what people say. Most would not be able to write or put a sentence together.

I mean, technically they are the only team in MD who sent two teams... since Bethesda sent three?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything is terrible!!! Yet we manage to be one of the top Womens Teams in the world in every age group. If we manage to keep politics out of the USWNT, we’ll win the World Cup again next time around. Oh, and not punch anyone in the back of the head too.

Sour grapes everywhere. My DD is on track to play D1 and has perfect grades. We will happily take any help and play ugly soccer. Unlike what you think, we are far from rich and actually sacrifice vacations among other things for Club soccer. Because of that she has made friends, stays busy, stays out of trouble and learns leadership as well as how to work with others. Money well spent.

You are Sour grapes!!!!!

There are two different arguments here.

1. What soccer does for your daughter for her individual growth and future. I hope no one would dispute how awesome what you described is for her. Hopefully all of our girls come away with friendship, leadership, commitment and ethics. D1 or not. College scholarships are definitely a nice added bonus if a girl has that ambition and makes it happen.

2. Soccer in the DMV and I’d argue in the U.S. The DMV does have some of the worst soccer programming in the country. And the U.S. plays some of the worse soccer globally. The USWNT argument is a straw man. Our teams are the best when we compete in spaces where women’s teams haven’t been amplified or supported, which until recently was virtually every country. That’s why we dominated. With other countries beginning to put money behind their women’s teams now everything is changing. We see it with the USWNT in recent years. It’s slower to come at the younger youth ages where boys programs still dominate in other countries.

What the US can get and should get credit for is putting professional women’s soccer on the map and setting that trend globally. It is giving women all over the world opportunities they never had. That is huge and something to be proud of! But what we cannot get credit for is great soccer. The good news is that can absolutely change. The bad news is I see no indication that it is.

[Anonymous]

Believe in Emma Hayes, roster selections already telling quite the tale

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Believe in Emma Hayes, roster selections already telling quite the tale

Agree 100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some underpaid and overworked coach pulling late social media duties clearly did not care to do any research.

BSC 3 in playoffs (2 CL)
MDU 2 in playofss (0 CL)

I doubt coaches on here despite what people say. Most would not be able to write or put a sentence together.

Quite disrespectful

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I've noticed in other areas versus this area is a more clearly defined hierarchy of clubs. There are many ECNL cubs in Dallas, for example, but everyone there knows Solar is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there year after year. In NY/NJ, there are many ECNL clubs but everyone knows PDA is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there. In this area, you have 5+ ECNL teams all claiming to be the best but our talent is more spread out. When there were only two ECNL teams in the area, the top talent did consolidate and those teams had more success at that national level than we typically see today....

Exactly, we have too many ECNL teams. Brave/Union merger was great imo but we need at least one more merger/consolidation of ECNL teams in the area. We need 1 team for Prince William, 1 team for Loudoun and western Fairfax and 1 team for Fairfax/Alexandria and Arlington. Then teams will be competitive.

Agree with this but we need teams where it is purely based on performance. Not whose mom/dad is on the board, who the coach likes personally, which family donates the most to the club or anything other than soccer ability. That I not the case in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some underpaid and overworked coach pulling late social media duties clearly did not care to do any research.

BSC 3 in playoffs (2 CL)
MDU 2 in playofss (0 CL)

I doubt coaches on here despite what people say. Most would not be able to write or put a sentence together.

Quite disrespectful

Is it wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I've noticed in other areas versus this area is a more clearly defined hierarchy of clubs. There are many ECNL cubs in Dallas, for example, but everyone there knows Solar is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there year after year. In NY/NJ, there are many ECNL clubs but everyone knows PDA is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there. In this area, you have 5+ ECNL teams all claiming to be the best but our talent is more spread out. When there were only two ECNL teams in the area, the top talent did consolidate and those teams had more success at that national level than we typically see today....

Exactly, we have too many ECNL teams. Brave/Union merger was great imo but we need at least one more merger/consolidation of ECNL teams in the area. We need 1 team for Prince William, 1 team for Loudoun and western Fairfax and 1 team for Fairfax/Alexandria and Arlington. Then teams will be competitive.

Agree with this but we need teams where it is purely based on performance. Not whose mom/dad is on the board, who the coach likes personally, which family donates the most to the club or anything other than soccer ability. That I not the case in this area.

What club has any of those things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I've noticed in other areas versus this area is a more clearly defined hierarchy of clubs. There are many ECNL cubs in Dallas, for example, but everyone there knows Solar is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there year after year. In NY/NJ, there are many ECNL clubs but everyone knows PDA is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there. In this area, you have 5+ ECNL teams all claiming to be the best but our talent is more spread out. When there were only two ECNL teams in the area, the top talent did consolidate and those teams had more success at that national level than we typically see today....

Exactly, we have too many ECNL teams. Brave/Union merger was great imo but we need at least one more merger/consolidation of ECNL teams in the area. We need 1 team for Prince William, 1 team for Loudoun and western Fairfax and 1 team for Fairfax/Alexandria and Arlington. Then teams will be competitive.

Agree with this but we need teams where it is purely based on performance. Not whose mom/dad is on the board, who the coach likes personally, which family donates the most to the club or anything other than soccer ability. That I not the case in this area.

Dumb argument. Less teams will not lead to better players moving. Many at the youger ages would just play travel. People are not going to drive far to get to soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I've noticed in other areas versus this area is a more clearly defined hierarchy of clubs. There are many ECNL cubs in Dallas, for example, but everyone there knows Solar is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there year after year. In NY/NJ, there are many ECNL clubs but everyone knows PDA is the "best" and the top talent consolidates there. In this area, you have 5+ ECNL teams all claiming to be the best but our talent is more spread out. When there were only two ECNL teams in the area, the top talent did consolidate and those teams had more success at that national level than we typically see today....

Exactly, we have too many ECNL teams. Brave/Union merger was great imo but we need at least one more merger/consolidation of ECNL teams in the area. We need 1 team for Prince William, 1 team for Loudoun and western Fairfax and 1 team for Fairfax/Alexandria and Arlington. Then teams will be competitive.

Agree with this but we need teams where it is purely based on performance. Not whose mom/dad is on the board, who the coach likes personally, which family donates the most to the club or anything other than soccer ability. That I not the case in this area.

Dumb argument. Less teams will not lead to better players moving. Many at the youger ages would just play travel. People are not going to drive far to get to soccer.

I agree forcing more players into less teams won't make coaches, parents, docs, any better.

This is the same logic as "if we could just recruit bigger and faster" we'd win it all.

Sorry, at the highest levels everyone is big and fast. To win against the best teams you have to have superior coaching, leadership, and preparation.

[Anonymous]

So did ANY dmv teams actually make it to Richmond?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.

And what have you won?

College soccer is terrible. Seriously, next time you see it on TV watch for a while. Especially women's college soccer. Wait until the end of the game and the coaches will start subbing like crazy completely slowing down the game. This will kill any kind of pressure that normally happens coaches have to sit back and watch the players they've picked work like crazy until the game is over. This is when goals generally happen because everyone is tired and likely to make mistakes.

I’m not trying to win anything. My kid enjoys playing college soccer. I enjoy supporting her. If she enjoyed acting in plays or singing or debating I would support her there too. To us soccer is just an activity like any of these others. The entire ECNL ecosystem exists for people like me. It does what it’s supposed to. You want it to be something else. Fine, but maybe you’d be better off starting a whole new ecosystem that was catered for what you want

I think this is right. What ECNL does is provide a platform for those that want to go pro or play national team mostly from the top teams AND provides a platform for college soccer recruitment for the rest. Most of the girls being recruited could have devoted themselves to any number of other sports and been recruited. They chose soccer. Sorry it does not meet your standards but it is a system that works. But they have fun, will enjoy playing in college and without them there would be no grass roots support for women's soccer in the US. It also can get them some money D1 or a leg up in what is hard college admissions process. This is what the stakeholders (kids, parents, coaches, colleges) want.

My DD would love to win a national chamionship. DD went with the mindset that they could advance. They did not. Would have been great. Winning is a goal but not the goal. The goal is college recruitment to a college she wants to go to that fits what she is looking for.

Local team can win a championship the day that coaches end sabotaging the skilled players. Some players are not fully committed to the team e.g attend all practices, do individual training on their own, watch and analyze games, etc. yet coaches grant these players the full game, fixed positions, players never go out their confort zone, they miss practices and still get rewarded with playin time. Coaches never move players to different positions, different formations, etc. Coaches are more committed to these families because of their donations or other incentives than committed to the performance of the team. This is why there are so many players in the transfer portal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So did ANY dmv teams actually make it to Richmond?

Arlington 2011g

[Anonymous]

Bethesda?