MoCo “Attainable Housing” plan and property values

[Anonymous]

This form that creates an email with select questions may also be used to reach Council Members.
These are all good questions:
https://form.jotform.com/242007485386157

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need “community input”. That’s a term used to infinitely delay getting things done. You all are the same kind of people that in the workplace like to “shop around ideas” and “socialize” ideas to people before officially pitching them. It’s super inefficient. We already know the good policy outcomes from upzoning. You just need to let it rip and let people do what they please with their land.

No, people “shop around ideas” and “socialize ideas” before they are implemented, not pitched. If they aren’t pitched, then you can’t gather input. Gathering the input of the stakeholders is how projects work in the adult world.

I think that most people think that it’s best to have a solid plan before you”let it rip.”

This is why we can’t take you seriously.

This is why you have a slave mentality and are destined for failure. You can’t think big. We used to think big in this country. We built the railroads spanning ocean to ocean. Skyscrapers. Your mentality is why we can’t expand the metro, why the housing market is stuck, why city governance is so sclerotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need “community input”. That’s a term used to infinitely delay getting things done. You all are the same kind of people that in the workplace like to “shop around ideas” and “socialize” ideas to people before officially pitching them. It’s super inefficient. We already know the good policy outcomes from upzoning. You just need to let it rip and let people do what they please with their land.

No, people “shop around ideas” and “socialize ideas” before they are implemented, not pitched. If they aren’t pitched, then you can’t gather input. Gathering the input of the stakeholders is how projects work in the adult world.

I think that most people think that it’s best to have a solid plan before you”let it rip.”

This is why we can’t take you seriously.

This is why you have a slave mentality and are destined for failure. You can’t think big. We used to think big in this country. We built the railroads spanning ocean to ocean. Skyscrapers. Your mentality is why we can’t expand the metro, why the housing market is stuck, why city governance is so sclerotic.

This is very racist and YIMBYs are the true racists. They are a bunch of entitled white biker bros that want to force their lifestyle on everyone else. Not everyone wants to live in your overcrowded urban fantasy where cars are banned and everyone bikes to work. Many people want to stay in their peaceful and quiet suburban neighborhoods and you are trying eliminate choices by forcing your preferences on the entire county.

[Anonymous]

There are so many Potomac properties like this one, that have high values despite very old and unappealing houses, because they are located in appealing areas (and the linked one below is on a large plot of land). It makes sense to me that these would be extremely valuable for developers to buy up and convert, and it could dramatically transform parts of the Potomac. Any thoughts on that?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/13008-Foxden-Dr-20850/home/10504472

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need “community input”. That’s a term used to infinitely delay getting things done. You all are the same kind of people that in the workplace like to “shop around ideas” and “socialize” ideas to people before officially pitching them. It’s super inefficient. We already know the good policy outcomes from upzoning. You just need to let it rip and let people do what they please with their land.

No, people “shop around ideas” and “socialize ideas” before they are implemented, not pitched. If they aren’t pitched, then you can’t gather input. Gathering the input of the stakeholders is how projects work in the adult world.

I think that most people think that it’s best to have a solid plan before you”let it rip.”

This is why we can’t take you seriously.

This is why you have a slave mentality and are destined for failure. You can’t think big. We used to think big in this country. We built the railroads spanning ocean to ocean. Skyscrapers. Your mentality is why we can’t expand the metro, why the housing market is stuck, why city governance is so sclerotic.

This is very racist and YIMBYs are the true racists. They are a bunch of entitled white biker bros that want to force their lifestyle on everyone else. Not everyone wants to live in your overcrowded urban fantasy where cars are banned and everyone bikes to work. Many people want to stay in their peaceful and quiet suburban neighborhoods and you are trying eliminate choices by forcing your preferences on the entire county.

I meant slave in the Nietzschean sense. Read theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are so many Potomac properties like this one, that have high values despite very old and unappealing houses, because they are located in appealing areas (and the linked one below is on a large plot of land). It makes sense to me that these would be extremely valuable for developers to buy up and convert, and it could dramatically transform parts of the Potomac. Any thoughts on that?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/13008-Foxden-Dr-20850/home/10504472

That is a mid-century time capsule. The kitchen is to die for. Real appliances that will work another 30 years!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are so many Potomac properties like this one, that have high values despite very old and unappealing houses, because they are located in appealing areas (and the linked one below is on a large plot of land). It makes sense to me that these would be extremely valuable for developers to buy up and convert, and it could dramatically transform parts of the Potomac. Any thoughts on that?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/13008-Foxden-Dr-20850/home/10504472

That is a mid-century time capsule. The kitchen is to die for. Real appliances that will work another 30 years!

"They just don't make them like they use to!" is something a certain generation loves to repeat that does not hold up under scrutiny. I bought a place that had "real appliances that will work for another 30 years" and replaced them all immediately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are so many Potomac properties like this one, that have high values despite very old and unappealing houses, because they are located in appealing areas (and the linked one below is on a large plot of land). It makes sense to me that these would be extremely valuable for developers to buy up and convert, and it could dramatically transform parts of the Potomac. Any thoughts on that?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/13008-Foxden-Dr-20850/home/10504472

That is a mid-century time capsule. The kitchen is to die for. Real appliances that will work another 30 years!

"They just don't make them like they use to!" is something a certain generation loves to repeat that does not hold up under scrutiny. I bought a place that had "real appliances that will work for another 30 years" and replaced them all immediately.

not PP, but it sounds like you replaced all your appliances before you could even test that claim.

Anyway, prior appliances did last longer (says this Millenial). Less plastic, less electronics (especially near heating elements), easier maintenance due to a simplified design, etc. Where older appliances fall short is cost, power/water consumption, sheer size, and secondary uses (a zillion different washing cycles...). Newer appliances have been value engineered to an inch of their warranty lifespan because of economics in a global, connected marketplace that didn't exist in the same capacity 40 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are so many Potomac properties like this one, that have high values despite very old and unappealing houses, because they are located in appealing areas (and the linked one below is on a large plot of land). It makes sense to me that these would be extremely valuable for developers to buy up and convert, and it could dramatically transform parts of the Potomac. Any thoughts on that?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/13008-Foxden-Dr-20850/home/10504472

That is a mid-century time capsule. The kitchen is to die for. Real appliances that will work another 30 years!

"They just don't make them like they use to!" is something a certain generation loves to repeat that does not hold up under scrutiny. I bought a place that had "real appliances that will work for another 30 years" and replaced them all immediately.

not PP, but it sounds like you replaced all your appliances before you could even test that claim.

Anyway, prior appliances did last longer (says this Millenial). Less plastic, less electronics (especially near heating elements), easier maintenance due to a simplified design, etc. Where older appliances fall short is cost, power/water consumption, sheer size, and secondary uses (a zillion different washing cycles...). Newer appliances have been value engineered to an inch of their warranty lifespan because of economics in a global, connected marketplace that didn't exist in the same capacity 40 years ago.

Old appliances are far less effective at their intended purpose than newer ones. It turns out that we actually have made a lot of technological progress over the years, people just whine and fixate on nitpicky things. If old appliances were really that great, they would be worth a fortune and highly sought after. But they're not, they're useless garbage. They limp along indefinitely and get your clothes half washed and your dishes half cleaned. People just continue to mindlessly repeat "they don't make them like they used to!!!!" while not actually using the old garbage they supposedly revere.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know when public consultation would begin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need “community input”. That’s a term used to infinitely delay getting things done. You all are the same kind of people that in the workplace like to “shop around ideas” and “socialize” ideas to people before officially pitching them. It’s super inefficient. We already know the good policy outcomes from upzoning. You just need to let it rip and let people do what they please with their land.

No, people “shop around ideas” and “socialize ideas” before they are implemented, not pitched. If they aren’t pitched, then you can’t gather input. Gathering the input of the stakeholders is how projects work in the adult world.

I think that most people think that it’s best to have a solid plan before you”let it rip.”

This is why we can’t take you seriously.

This is why you have a slave mentality and are destined for failure. You can’t think big. We used to think big in this country. We built the railroads spanning ocean to ocean. Skyscrapers. Your mentality is why we can’t expand the metro, why the housing market is stuck, why city governance is so sclerotic.

I forgot to that I posted as the PP, just coming back to the thread.

Your reply is stupid and we should all feel more stupid for having read it. Please, for the good of the site, leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don’t need “community input”. That’s a term used to infinitely delay getting things done. You all are the same kind of people that in the workplace like to “shop around ideas” and “socialize” ideas to people before officially pitching them. It’s super inefficient. We already know the good policy outcomes from upzoning. You just need to let it rip and let people do what they please with their land.

No, people “shop around ideas” and “socialize ideas” before they are implemented, not pitched. If they aren’t pitched, then you can’t gather input. Gathering the input of the stakeholders is how projects work in the adult world.

I think that most people think that it’s best to have a solid plan before you”let it rip.”

This is why we can’t take you seriously.

This is why you have a slave mentality and are destined for failure. You can’t think big. We used to think big in this country. We built the railroads spanning ocean to ocean. Skyscrapers. Your mentality is why we can’t expand the metro, why the housing market is stuck, why city governance is so sclerotic.

This is very racist and YIMBYs are the true racists. They are a bunch of entitled white biker bros that want to force their lifestyle on everyone else. Not everyone wants to live in your overcrowded urban fantasy where cars are banned and everyone bikes to work. Many people want to stay in their peaceful and quiet suburban neighborhoods and you are trying eliminate choices by forcing your preferences on the entire county.

I meant slave in the Nietzschean sense. Read theory.

Oh, I get it.

Edgy college freshman. It’s very exciting being away from your parents, isn’t it?

Get yourself some clove cigarettes, did you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This form that creates an email with select questions may also be used to reach Council Members.
These are all good questions:
https://form.jotform.com/242007485386157

I sent in questions through this jotform and received a response from Councilmember Jawando.

I encourage you to use this form as it is mentioned in the response alongside the questions sent through it.

The response also says this:
“ The next step in this process is for the Council to hold listening sessions in the fall to gather feedback as the Planning Board is preparing proposed legislation to implement the recommendations and zoning changes from the initiative. Any proposed legislation and ZTAs will go through the normal Council processes, including an opportunity for public feedback in public hearings as well as committee worksessions.”

TIME IS TICKING- PLEASE ENGAGE!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are so many Potomac properties like this one, that have high values despite very old and unappealing houses, because they are located in appealing areas (and the linked one below is on a large plot of land). It makes sense to me that these would be extremely valuable for developers to buy up and convert, and it could dramatically transform parts of the Potomac. Any thoughts on that?

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/13008-Foxden-Dr-20850/home/10504472

WTF? That house has beautiful bones and will make a lovely family home with a spruce up. We bought a very similar one recently and will live here till the end of our days.

[Anonymous]

That area does not have public water / sewer. These are the kind of places that will be safe from upzoning.