study shows how 42M recipients spend their food stamps

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Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

How many hours do you work/week? What's your HHI? How old are your children? What's your child care coverage?

Yeah, none of that impacts eating healthy. It’s about choices. We should limit those to healthy foods for snap recipients. You can keep yelling, but it’s just the truth.

If I can go on fking YouTube and learn how to make a huge thing of granola for $5 that will feed me for a week at breakfast, so can the person receiving free subsidized internet. Just saying your excuses are perpetual. We subsidize bad choices at present.

Just another person with no understanding of how poor and working people live. All of that impacts eating healthy. All of it.

LOL on granola - one big sugar carb fest.

You do realize that the majority of folks on SNAP - poor rural whites - often do not have access to an internet because the areas are not wired.

But keep riding your high horse.

Granola can easily be made with no sugar.

As for carbs, you sort of need them to survive. Complex carbs that is.

I mean this. I made like 4 pounds of it for less than $5. I added a less than 1/5 a cup of honey. It’s heart healthy. I really think we are doing the country a disservice by subsidizing so many unhealthy foods like heart clogging chips and diabetes inducing soda. I don’t know why that’s so controversial. We can get a panel of experts (hopefully excluding too much of the junk food industry) to decide which foods should qualify for food stamps. We’d have better outcomes in society.

So what’s your strategy? How are you going to pull together this panel? How are you going to beat back Big Ag? How are you going to eliminate subsidies to the Fanjul family?

Oh fck it. Let’s just double down and make snap benefits valid only at Dunkin Donuts. I mean they’re everywhere and it’s just easier than trying to nudge society, who clearly don’t know better at all, into eating somewhat healthy.

Seriously. Folks are explaining the hurdles for healthy food due to Big Ag and your retort is more like Big A$$. Either be part of the answer or continue to be part of the problem.

And the irony is that we’re all eating the same crappy food. We’re all ingesting the pesticides and ubiquitous high fructose corn syrup that big ag has polluted our food with.

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Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

How many hours do you work/week? What's your HHI? How old are your children? What's your child care coverage?

Yeah, none of that impacts eating healthy. It’s about choices. We should limit those to healthy foods for snap recipients. You can keep yelling, but it’s just the truth.

If I can go on fking YouTube and learn how to make a huge thing of granola for $5 that will feed me for a week at breakfast, so can the person receiving free subsidized internet. Just saying your excuses are perpetual. We subsidize bad choices at present.

Just another person with no understanding of how poor and working people live. All of that impacts eating healthy. All of it.

LOL on granola - one big sugar carb fest.

You do realize that the majority of folks on SNAP - poor rural whites - often do not have access to an internet because the areas are not wired.

But keep riding your high horse.

Granola can easily be made with no sugar.

As for carbs, you sort of need them to survive. Complex carbs that is.

I mean this. I made like 4 pounds of it for less than $5. I added a less than 1/5 a cup of honey. It’s heart healthy. I really think we are doing the country a disservice by subsidizing so many unhealthy foods like heart clogging chips and diabetes inducing soda. I don’t know why that’s so controversial. We can get a panel of experts (hopefully excluding too much of the junk food industry) to decide which foods should qualify for food stamps. We’d have better outcomes in society.

Go to a Dollar Tree or a Dollar General and make your heart-healthy granola for under $5. It’s called a food dessert, hon. Look it up. Poor people don’t have a Whole Foods or even a Safeway within an accessible distance.

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Anyone here watch Clarkson's Farm on Prime?

Fantastic show.

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Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

How many hours do you work/week? What's your HHI? How old are your children? What's your child care coverage?

Yeah, none of that impacts eating healthy. It’s about choices. We should limit those to healthy foods for snap recipients. You can keep yelling, but it’s just the truth.

If I can go on fking YouTube and learn how to make a huge thing of granola for $5 that will feed me for a week at breakfast, so can the person receiving free subsidized internet. Just saying your excuses are perpetual. We subsidize bad choices at present.

Just another person with no understanding of how poor and working people live. All of that impacts eating healthy. All of it.

LOL on granola - one big sugar carb fest.

You do realize that the majority of folks on SNAP - poor rural whites - often do not have access to an internet because the areas are not wired.

But keep riding your high horse.

Granola can easily be made with no sugar.

As for carbs, you sort of need them to survive. Complex carbs that is.

I mean this. I made like 4 pounds of it for less than $5. I added a less than 1/5 a cup of honey. It’s heart healthy. I really think we are doing the country a disservice by subsidizing so many unhealthy foods like heart clogging chips and diabetes inducing soda. I don’t know why that’s so controversial. We can get a panel of experts (hopefully excluding too much of the junk food industry) to decide which foods should qualify for food stamps. We’d have better outcomes in society.

So what’s your strategy? How are you going to pull together this panel? How are you going to beat back Big Ag? How are you going to eliminate subsidies to the Fanjul family?

Oh fck it. Let’s just double down and make snap benefits valid only at Dunkin Donuts. I mean they’re everywhere and it’s just easier than trying to nudge society, who clearly don’t know better at all, into eating somewhat healthy.

Seriously. Folks are explaining the hurdles for healthy food due to Big Ag and your retort is more like Big A$$. Either be part of the answer or continue to be part of the problem.

And the irony is that we’re all eating the same crappy food. We’re all ingesting the pesticides and ubiquitous high fructose corn syrup that big ag has polluted our food with.

Maybe the anti-chippers are dozing right now due to their pseudo-healthy lunch. "It wasn't soda!"

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Anonymous wrote:I had two egg whites, two pieces of toast with olive oil and some berries for lunch. I am full. It took 10 minutes to make and it was less than $5. I am not on snap. This meal doesn’t cause obesity. America is massively obese. We should not subsidize heart attacks. Anyone claiming different is poorly educated and wrong.

I ate pretty healthy as well today. And worked out. And I’m nurse so I’m all about prevention. But you sound like such a self-righteous, condescending ((insert adjective that would probably make you clutch your pearls)). I can’t believe the GOP is back to the let’s kick people off welfare bit again. Do you all feel this strongly about corporate welfare?

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We supply free healthy food at our workplace. We have bananas, apples, oranges, grapes and salad ingredients.
We supply strawberries and blueberries when they are in season.
Only two of our workers partake from the free healthy food and they are first generation Haitian Americans.

The other workers only will eat the free processed bagged snacks.

Even if you make healthy foods free, many will not eat them.

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Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

How many hours do you work/week? What's your HHI? How old are your children? What's your child care coverage?

Yeah, none of that impacts eating healthy. It’s about choices. We should limit those to healthy foods for snap recipients. You can keep yelling, but it’s just the truth.

If I can go on fking YouTube and learn how to make a huge thing of granola for $5 that will feed me for a week at breakfast, so can the person receiving free subsidized internet. Just saying your excuses are perpetual. We subsidize bad choices at present.

Just another person with no understanding of how poor and working people live. All of that impacts eating healthy. All of it.

LOL on granola - one big sugar carb fest.

You do realize that the majority of folks on SNAP - poor rural whites - often do not have access to an internet because the areas are not wired.

But keep riding your high horse.

Most of the posters on this board have no idea about the demographics of snap recipients. They are imagining it’s primarily urban people of color.

But no. The primary recipients of government aid of all types is rural white people.

No, it’s about people on SNAP buying sugary soda. Take soda out of the SNAP matrix. That is it. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

I don’t expect people to cook a delicious, healthy meal at home. I don’t expect people to down a bag of Doritos and wash it all down with a 2 liter bottle of pop either. There is a reasonable, middle ground in there somewhere. There must be some common sense regulations and better education about food choices.

Why do you feel the need to control the poor?

People here are hateful and live in a bubble. It is disgusting.

Food banks are mostly boxed or canned foods because that is what keeps. Many poor people rely on processed foods because it's cheaper, plain and simple. You can get a package of yellow rice and that has a ton more flavor because the seasonings come with it.

People here can cook tasty food because they have a pantry of seasonings and oils the poor don't have. They also have access to a full working kitchen which the poor often lack.

When I delivered food to the poor from food banks I would stop by a store to grab milk because there was none included from the food banks.

The client I help with his shopping gets $35 a week. Because of the resource level he eats the same meals for breakfast each day. Yogurt, toast and milk. Lunches are a soda, sandwich, chips, a piece of fruit. Dinners are frozen meals, including a pizza some nights.

Which of these things would you take from him??? He can't drive, use a bus alone or go anywhere without help.

What else should he give up in his life to MAKE YOU SATISFIED he's not living it up on your dime??

You people are despicable.

He gets SSI or SSDI?

He lives in Section 8 housing?

He is on medicaid or medicare?

How does he only qualify for $140 per month SNAP? He must have other income that brings his SNAP down. What other income does he have?

Disabled. No income. Just SSI and Medicaid. He rents a room in a home with the SSI.

Ok, how much is his room rental? Does he pay utilities? What are his expenses? His medical care is fully covered. He gets $943 per month in SSI, plus $140 from SNAP. His total is $1,083 and he only has $35 a week for food?

Man, just look at what you wrote. This income is well below poverty level.

And all these squealing DCUMers who make $400K whining about today's grocery prices, but telling others eating on $35 a week is easy peasy.

If this man only has $35 a week for groceries, something is wrong with his budget. Yes, he is disabled and has public benefits. Lots of people are. He has $1083 per month to live. How does he rent a room, not have a car, have his medical care and prescriptions completely covered, and only have $35 a week for food?

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

I don’t expect people to cook a delicious, healthy meal at home. I don’t expect people to down a bag of Doritos and wash it all down with a 2 liter bottle of pop either. There is a reasonable, middle ground in there somewhere. There must be some common sense regulations and better education about food choices.

Why do you feel the need to control the poor?

People here are hateful and live in a bubble. It is disgusting.

Food banks are mostly boxed or canned foods because that is what keeps. Many poor people rely on processed foods because it's cheaper, plain and simple. You can get a package of yellow rice and that has a ton more flavor because the seasonings come with it.

People here can cook tasty food because they have a pantry of seasonings and oils the poor don't have. They also have access to a full working kitchen which the poor often lack.

When I delivered food to the poor from food banks I would stop by a store to grab milk because there was none included from the food banks.

The client I help with his shopping gets $35 a week. Because of the resource level he eats the same meals for breakfast each day. Yogurt, toast and milk. Lunches are a soda, sandwich, chips, a piece of fruit. Dinners are frozen meals, including a pizza some nights.

Which of these things would you take from him??? He can't drive, use a bus alone or go anywhere without help.

What else should he give up in his life to MAKE YOU SATISFIED he's not living it up on your dime??

You people are despicable.

He gets SSI or SSDI?

He lives in Section 8 housing?

He is on medicaid or medicare?

How does he only qualify for $140 per month SNAP? He must have other income that brings his SNAP down. What other income does he have?

Disabled. No income. Just SSI and Medicaid. He rents a room in a home with the SSI.

Ok, how much is his room rental? Does he pay utilities? What are his expenses? His medical care is fully covered. He gets $943 per month in SSI, plus $140 from SNAP. His total is $1,083 and he only has $35 a week for food?

Man, just look at what you wrote. This income is well below poverty level.

And all these squealing DCUMers who make $400K whining about today's grocery prices, but telling others eating on $35 a week is easy peasy.

If this man only has $35 a week for groceries, something is wrong with his budget. Yes, he is disabled and has public benefits. Lots of people are. He has $1083 per month to live. How does he rent a room, not have a car, have his medical care and prescriptions completely covered, and only have $35 a week for food?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're truly that out of touch about how expensive the cost of living is these days.

Are you under the impression that getting places is free when you don't have a car? Or that the average rent on a 2 bedroom apartment split with a roommate is over $1300/month before utilities?

I swear it's like some of you live on a different planet. You have no idea what life is like for most people, yet you sit up on your high horse preaching the virtues of rice and beans as the pathway out of poverty. You sound like the avocado toast morons.

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

I don’t expect people to cook a delicious, healthy meal at home. I don’t expect people to down a bag of Doritos and wash it all down with a 2 liter bottle of pop either. There is a reasonable, middle ground in there somewhere. There must be some common sense regulations and better education about food choices.

Why do you feel the need to control the poor?

People here are hateful and live in a bubble. It is disgusting.

Food banks are mostly boxed or canned foods because that is what keeps. Many poor people rely on processed foods because it's cheaper, plain and simple. You can get a package of yellow rice and that has a ton more flavor because the seasonings come with it.

People here can cook tasty food because they have a pantry of seasonings and oils the poor don't have. They also have access to a full working kitchen which the poor often lack.

When I delivered food to the poor from food banks I would stop by a store to grab milk because there was none included from the food banks.

The client I help with his shopping gets $35 a week. Because of the resource level he eats the same meals for breakfast each day. Yogurt, toast and milk. Lunches are a soda, sandwich, chips, a piece of fruit. Dinners are frozen meals, including a pizza some nights.

Which of these things would you take from him??? He can't drive, use a bus alone or go anywhere without help.

What else should he give up in his life to MAKE YOU SATISFIED he's not living it up on your dime??

You people are despicable.

He gets SSI or SSDI?

He lives in Section 8 housing?

He is on medicaid or medicare?

How does he only qualify for $140 per month SNAP? He must have other income that brings his SNAP down. What other income does he have?

Disabled. No income. Just SSI and Medicaid. He rents a room in a home with the SSI.

Ok, how much is his room rental? Does he pay utilities? What are his expenses? His medical care is fully covered. He gets $943 per month in SSI, plus $140 from SNAP. His total is $1,083 and he only has $35 a week for food?

Man, just look at what you wrote. This income is well below poverty level.

And all these squealing DCUMers who make $400K whining about today's grocery prices, but telling others eating on $35 a week is easy peasy.

If this man only has $35 a week for groceries, something is wrong with his budget. Yes, he is disabled and has public benefits. Lots of people are. He has $1083 per month to live. How does he rent a room, not have a car, have his medical care and prescriptions completely covered, and only have $35 a week for food?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're truly that out of touch about how expensive the cost of living is these days.

Are you under the impression that getting places is free when you don't have a car? Or that the average rent on a 2 bedroom apartment split with a roommate is over $1300/month before utilities?

I swear it's like some of you live on a different planet. You have no idea what life is like for most people, yet you sit up on your high horse preaching the virtues of rice and beans as the pathway out of poverty. You sound like the avocado toast morons.

pp specifically stated he rents a room, not an apartment. How much does room rent cost?

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

I don’t expect people to cook a delicious, healthy meal at home. I don’t expect people to down a bag of Doritos and wash it all down with a 2 liter bottle of pop either. There is a reasonable, middle ground in there somewhere. There must be some common sense regulations and better education about food choices.

Why do you feel the need to control the poor?

People here are hateful and live in a bubble. It is disgusting.

Food banks are mostly boxed or canned foods because that is what keeps. Many poor people rely on processed foods because it's cheaper, plain and simple. You can get a package of yellow rice and that has a ton more flavor because the seasonings come with it.

People here can cook tasty food because they have a pantry of seasonings and oils the poor don't have. They also have access to a full working kitchen which the poor often lack.

When I delivered food to the poor from food banks I would stop by a store to grab milk because there was none included from the food banks.

The client I help with his shopping gets $35 a week. Because of the resource level he eats the same meals for breakfast each day. Yogurt, toast and milk. Lunches are a soda, sandwich, chips, a piece of fruit. Dinners are frozen meals, including a pizza some nights.

Which of these things would you take from him??? He can't drive, use a bus alone or go anywhere without help.

What else should he give up in his life to MAKE YOU SATISFIED he's not living it up on your dime??

You people are despicable.

He gets SSI or SSDI?

He lives in Section 8 housing?

He is on medicaid or medicare?

How does he only qualify for $140 per month SNAP? He must have other income that brings his SNAP down. What other income does he have?

Disabled. No income. Just SSI and Medicaid. He rents a room in a home with the SSI.

Ok, how much is his room rental? Does he pay utilities? What are his expenses? His medical care is fully covered. He gets $943 per month in SSI, plus $140 from SNAP. His total is $1,083 and he only has $35 a week for food?

Man, just look at what you wrote. This income is well below poverty level.

And all these squealing DCUMers who make $400K whining about today's grocery prices, but telling others eating on $35 a week is easy peasy.

If this man only has $35 a week for groceries, something is wrong with his budget. Yes, he is disabled and has public benefits. Lots of people are. He has $1083 per month to live. How does he rent a room, not have a car, have his medical care and prescriptions completely covered, and only have $35 a week for food?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're truly that out of touch about how expensive the cost of living is these days.

Are you under the impression that getting places is free when you don't have a car? Or that the average rent on a 2 bedroom apartment split with a roommate is over $1300/month before utilities?

I swear it's like some of you live on a different planet. You have no idea what life is like for most people, yet you sit up on your high horse preaching the virtues of rice and beans as the pathway out of poverty. You sound like the avocado toast morons.

pp specifically stated he rents a room, not an apartment. How much does room rent cost?

What the hell do you think rents a room means??? He shares a home, likely an apartment with roommates. And I just told you, average rent people are paying for a 2 bedroom apartment, splitting it with a roommate is over $1300/month. My guess is it would still be around the same for a room in a house.

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Anonymous wrote:Pasta, rice and beans are super cheap. You can get a box of whole wheat pasta for less than. $1.50 and it will last for multiple meals.

If you worked 2 jobs, and had to take the bus for both jobs, just how much time do you think you'd have to cook dinner from scratch?

My mother worked a low level job and cooked from scratched. She was up at 5am, worked, came home and finished prepping meals, then cleaned up. She finally finished at 9pm and then just went to bed. Rinse and repeat. She at least had a ride to work. She never helped us with hw or anything else. Too tired (and I don't blame her).

I'd like to see you be a low income person, work a low income job, take public transit to work, and cook from scratch.

I am now fortunate to wfh and earn a good income. So, we can cook from scratch and do most nights.

Are you serious? So throwing pasta in a pot of boiling water for 6-7 mins is cooking from scratch? Dumping a can of beans in a pot for five mins is too much work? Okay.

Are you serious? They may throw some mac and cheese in the microwave or whatever, but cooking pasta from "scratch" is more than just throwing in pasta in boiling water. And beans? Sure, they eat beans. But, are you suggesting that they eat beans as snacks ?

We're having pasta tonight. Saute some fresh vegetables with garlic and olive oil, topped with grilled salmon. I don't expect low income people to be able to whip that together as easily when they're working two jobs and taking public transport.

Should they eat plain pasta and rice and beans all the time, including for snacks? You want them to eat fresh fruits for snacks as if they have the time to buy fresh fruits that are perishable.

I'm not saying what they are doing is fine, but seriously , some of you have zero clue about what it's like to be poor, uneducated and live in an urban area.

We could just put this here on repeat. One thing conservatives are consistent about is not understanding a problem until it is a problem for them personally.

So did Michelle Obama not know what it’s like to be poor, uneducated, and live in an urban area?

Michelle Obama would know more about that than an UMC R white dude.

MO knew that this was an issue. It's also why she started the vegetable garden at the WH. She was trying to promote healthy eating.

Yet, when she tried to at least tackle unhealthy school lunches I recall Rs claiming it won't work because kids don't like that kind of crap food.

Yet, now we have Rs claiming that these same kids should not be eating unhealthy with money from tax dollars.

Childhood obesity is a problem. But, it's not just an easy "drink less soda" problem. Children in low income urban areas also cannot go out to play like, ride a bike, be in little league, etc.. like other children can.

Then there is education: uneducated parents like this don't realize just how unhealthy it is to drink so much soda. There are people who live in suburbia who drink a shlt ton of soda. Some people just don't like the fact that the poors are using tax money to buy soda rather than water.

They were right about that part. Sugar, fat, and salt covers up low quality ingredients and lack of cooking skill. UDSA pays less than $3 a meal. The quality is going to be crap and with nothing to hide it, kids noticed

Right, yet some people expect poor people to be able to cook delicious healthy meals at home? please. Even a lot of middle class people can't cook healthy, delicious meals at home.

I don’t expect people to cook a delicious, healthy meal at home. I don’t expect people to down a bag of Doritos and wash it all down with a 2 liter bottle of pop either. There is a reasonable, middle ground in there somewhere. There must be some common sense regulations and better education about food choices.

Why do you feel the need to control the poor?

People here are hateful and live in a bubble. It is disgusting.

Food banks are mostly boxed or canned foods because that is what keeps. Many poor people rely on processed foods because it's cheaper, plain and simple. You can get a package of yellow rice and that has a ton more flavor because the seasonings come with it.

People here can cook tasty food because they have a pantry of seasonings and oils the poor don't have. They also have access to a full working kitchen which the poor often lack.

When I delivered food to the poor from food banks I would stop by a store to grab milk because there was none included from the food banks.

The client I help with his shopping gets $35 a week. Because of the resource level he eats the same meals for breakfast each day. Yogurt, toast and milk. Lunches are a soda, sandwich, chips, a piece of fruit. Dinners are frozen meals, including a pizza some nights.

Which of these things would you take from him??? He can't drive, use a bus alone or go anywhere without help.

What else should he give up in his life to MAKE YOU SATISFIED he's not living it up on your dime??

You people are despicable.

He gets SSI or SSDI?

He lives in Section 8 housing?

He is on medicaid or medicare?

How does he only qualify for $140 per month SNAP? He must have other income that brings his SNAP down. What other income does he have?

Disabled. No income. Just SSI and Medicaid. He rents a room in a home with the SSI.

Ok, how much is his room rental? Does he pay utilities? What are his expenses? His medical care is fully covered. He gets $943 per month in SSI, plus $140 from SNAP. His total is $1,083 and he only has $35 a week for food?

Man, just look at what you wrote. This income is well below poverty level.

And all these squealing DCUMers who make $400K whining about today's grocery prices, but telling others eating on $35 a week is easy peasy.

If this man only has $35 a week for groceries, something is wrong with his budget. Yes, he is disabled and has public benefits. Lots of people are. He has $1083 per month to live. How does he rent a room, not have a car, have his medical care and prescriptions completely covered, and only have $35 a week for food?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're truly that out of touch about how expensive the cost of living is these days.

Are you under the impression that getting places is free when you don't have a car? Or that the average rent on a 2 bedroom apartment split with a roommate is over $1300/month before utilities?

I swear it's like some of you live on a different planet. You have no idea what life is like for most people, yet you sit up on your high horse preaching the virtues of rice and beans as the pathway out of poverty. You sound like the avocado toast morons.

pp specifically stated he rents a room, not an apartment. How much does room rent cost?

So nice to live in a 24/7 world of Clueless where you think life is circa 1997.

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I was on food stamps )before they called it SNAP) for many years. Very rarely bought any junk food and very few processed foods (mostly, when I did, processed meant dry cereal, tortilla chips and salsa, ice cream, bacon, bread) and sometimes a 2 liter of cola or root beer or a snack for my kid--didn't stockpile snacks.

But for several months I let a young woman I knew, who had lost her housing, stay with me along with her four kids. Some of my observations: she had minimal cooking skills. She had grown up poor, in a household where people would be sober for 2 weeks and then everyone drunk the next two. She told me about being little and she and her siblings eating spoonsful of dry milk powder when they were hungry. Once her mom got a winter squash in a food pantry basket and sent her over to my house to ask how to cook it. Her own cooking repertoire consisted of fried potatoes, boiled hot dogs, fry bread (she was Native American--so the squash thing seemed really ironic, but she came from ancestors who had been forced into Indian boarding schools and families split up and separated) and a really delicious hamburger soup[ made with hamburger meat, cabbage, onions, and tomato sauce.

The other thing was that, with no money for activities and entertainment for her kids, entertaining them mostly meant snacking on candy and cookies and sodas when the SNAP benefits came in, then on dry ramen noodles (something I had never heard of as a snack) when the initial stash of junk food was gone. Games on mobile phones (that didn't have minutes but were used as gaming devices) and watching YouTube cartoons on my TV. (She was mostly on her own regarding food, the housing was supposed to be short term but ended up much longer than intended, and she did have the SNAP benefits and some money in child support as well as SSI for one child who had learning disabilities and vision impairment).

So junk food seemed to be used a lot as recreation, and I suspect that is often the case, whether for one's kids or for adults themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I was on food stamps )before they called it SNAP) for many years. Very rarely bought any junk food and very few processed foods (mostly, when I did, processed meant dry cereal, tortilla chips and salsa, ice cream, bacon, bread) and sometimes a 2 liter of cola or root beer or a snack for my kid--didn't stockpile snacks.

But for several months I let a young woman I knew, who had lost her housing, stay with me along with her four kids. Some of my observations: she had minimal cooking skills. She had grown up poor, in a household where people would be sober for 2 weeks and then everyone drunk the next two. She told me about being little and she and her siblings eating spoonsful of dry milk powder when they were hungry. Once her mom got a winter squash in a food pantry basket and sent her over to my house to ask how to cook it. Her own cooking repertoire consisted of fried potatoes, boiled hot dogs, fry bread (she was Native American--so the squash thing seemed really ironic, but she came from ancestors who had been forced into Indian boarding schools and families split up and separated) and a really delicious hamburger soup[ made with hamburger meat, cabbage, onions, and tomato sauce.

The other thing was that, with no money for activities and entertainment for her kids, entertaining them mostly meant snacking on candy and cookies and sodas when the SNAP benefits came in, then on dry ramen noodles (something I had never heard of as a snack) when the initial stash of junk food was gone. Games on mobile phones (that didn't have minutes but were used as gaming devices) and watching YouTube cartoons on my TV. (She was mostly on her own regarding food, the housing was supposed to be short term but ended up much longer than intended, and she did have the SNAP benefits and some money in child support as well as SSI for one child who had learning disabilities and vision impairment).

So junk food seemed to be used a lot as recreation, and I suspect that is often the case, whether for one's kids or for adults themselves.

Thank you for sharing this. These people live on the moon. They have no idea how people live or why they make the choices they do, but feel the need to stand in judgement.

Poor people aren't stupid. There are reasons they make decision that don't make sense to you. They have different priorities, experiences, and perspectives.

That soda you're judging them for may very well be the only self-indulgent pleasure they have, kinda like you wine moms and your nightly chardonnay you drink while looking down your nose on others.

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Junk food is easy. It's tasty! I'm UMC and I love junk food too It's awful for you and I know it. I'm highly educated and I still love it! I don't eat it every day and it's certainly not my go-to meal. But I'm just saying - if you are poor and uneducated - you go for what is easiest, tastiest and that's junk food.

Do you know how much damn time it takes to cook a nutritious farm fresh meal? Sorry but fresh ingredients may be healthy but without a way to make it delicious, it's bland as hell.

I find a lot of healthy stuff like coconut water gross. I find a lot of healthy snacks gross. On the other hand, 3/4 of what you eat that isn't considered junk food - like Kraft Mac and Cheese is not as healthy as you people think. REAL healthy meal take time and effort to prepare. A salad is less yummy without yummy salad dressing. Who sits there and just eats raw veggies all day - are you a rabbit or something?

It's more than providing SNAP benefits to the poor. IT's a cultural thing in the US in terms of eating well prepared foods. Let me just say for the record that 1/2 the stuff sold in Safeway/Giant are pretty bad for you even if it's not Doritos. Between the food coloring, preservatives and salt/sugar content, seriously, you all are eating junk food as well. I'd define most of what's served in our K-12 public schools as junk food - we should probably start defining what healthy food is first!

Who is advocating cooking a farm to table fresh meal? This isn’t a Michelin star restaurant. Tax payers are simply tired of subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. Give the poors a sweet potato. So many cry babies in this thread. Fking grow up.

So what do you eat consistently? You really eating sweet potatoes weekly and drinking only juice and water? Cause your subsidizing something unhealthy even if it's not high fructose corn syrup unless you eat like a rabbit or have a personal chef or devote hours to creating healthy meals for EVERY SINGLE MEAL! It's not about eating Michelin. It's about eating stuff that doesn't contain a ton of chemicals. You have no idea how hard that is - you may not have a ton of it but I guarantee that unless you live on a farm or have a ton of money, you are subsidizing junk food just like we all are.

I am advocating snap benefits exclude soft drinks, and a lot of deserts, and chips and a panel of experts or consultants design a menu of foods that don’t cause cancer and childhood obesity.

We pay for this stuff. Why overburden our health care system? You’re not doing anyone any favors defending cola as a snap choice.

And yes, I generally eat chicken, rice, veggies, a lot of peanut butter and cheap veggies and it’s not
weird and it takes the exact same time to make as any food. Not sure why you’re willing to die on this hill.

How many hours do you work/week? What's your HHI? How old are your children? What's your child care coverage?

Yeah, none of that impacts eating healthy. It’s about choices. We should limit those to healthy foods for snap recipients. You can keep yelling, but it’s just the truth.

If I can go on fking YouTube and learn how to make a huge thing of granola for $5 that will feed me for a week at breakfast, so can the person receiving free subsidized internet. Just saying your excuses are perpetual. We subsidize bad choices at present.

Just another person with no understanding of how poor and working people live. All of that impacts eating healthy. All of it.

LOL on granola - one big sugar carb fest.

You do realize that the majority of folks on SNAP - poor rural whites - often do not have access to an internet because the areas are not wired.

But keep riding your high horse.

Granola can easily be made with no sugar.

As for carbs, you sort of need them to survive. Complex carbs that is.

I mean this. I made like 4 pounds of it for less than $5. I added a less than 1/5 a cup of honey. It’s heart healthy. I really think we are doing the country a disservice by subsidizing so many unhealthy foods like heart clogging chips and diabetes inducing soda. I don’t know why that’s so controversial. We can get a panel of experts (hopefully excluding too much of the junk food industry) to decide which foods should qualify for food stamps. We’d have better outcomes in society.

Go to a Dollar Tree or a Dollar General and make your heart-healthy granola for under $5. It’s called a food dessert, hon. Look it up. Poor people don’t have a Whole Foods or even a Safeway within an accessible distance.

Granola 4 lb under $5? I buy oatmeal in bulk at a natural food store, where it is cheaper than the grocery store. A 5 lb bag is currently $7.45 (9.45 if I go organic). That's 5.96 for 4 pounds. At the supermarket it will cost more than that. A pound of honey runs about $9, so a fifth of a cup is 90 cents. Granola usually includes a bit of oil, which would be negligible but not free. Dry fruit? Raisins run $4/lb. Maybe some walnuts? $2 for 2 ounces in your homemade granola. Sunflower seeds I can buy a 12 ounce package for about $3 so maybe 4 ounces of those instead of walnuts. Homemade granola is going to run $7 to $8 for 4 pounds minimum by my calculations. Incidentally, I tried the cheapest store brand rolled oats at the supermarket once, probably similar to what they sell at a dollar store. Pretty awful. They used to have 1 lb pouches of Quaker Old Fashioned Oats for $1.09 but several years ago they relabeled them Gluten Free!! and changed the price to 2.79. The cylinder containers are I think around 30 ounces (under 2 lb) and those are $4 or more.

I can buy a 20 oz loaf of the cheapest white bread for about $2.50, but usually spend around $5 for whichever whole grain bread is on sale for a 24 ounce loaf (so far I refuse to buy a 20 oz load of bread, will hold out as long as I can).