How much will Biden lose by?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

The old man drooling on himself while sleeping in the courtroom is anything but a leader. He can’t even make a coherent speech. I am voting for women’s right to healthcare. The whoremonger the GOP has fallen behind has one use for women.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

Dp- they were planning to stomp their feet, take a dump on the quad, and whine on tik tok.

Unintentional reminder progress comes one funeral at a time.

Are you talking about the death of college protesters future careers?

I’m talking about people who have had bad priors for decades and won’t update them now, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

Agreed. And how do you propose we do that in the 2024 election?

I'm going to keep saying this. Biden can step down as the DNC candidate at any minute. If he truly cared about the US he would do so.

Let’s live in this fantasy world for a minute. He steps down now, then what?

Kamala Harris?

Some other mythical candidate that can both satisfy you and have an actual chance of winning?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

Agreed. And how do you propose we do that in the 2024 election?

I'm going to keep saying this. Biden can step down as the DNC candidate at any minute. If he truly cared about the US he would do so.

NP. I would also suggest that everyone who even considered the 25th with Trump should push it for Biden. A little consistency by the well-funded ‘anti-Trump’ forces would go a long way to restore trust.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

Agreed. And how do you propose we do that in the 2024 election?

We can't. We can only look forward to 2028.

There’s a very good chance either/both Biden and Trump will be dead by then. And we have a crisis now. It absolutely makes sense to explore other possibilities, if only to have them ready whenever our political fever/gerontocracy breaks.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

The old man drooling on himself while sleeping in the courtroom is anything but a leader. He can’t even make a coherent speech. I am voting for women’s right to healthcare. The whoremonger the GOP has fallen behind has one use for women.

I love how making Trump seem worse is your only goal. PP talked about how both are a disaster for almost every one, which seems a good starting point for serious discussions. You just had to tell the world how much happier you personally are with one of those s———sandwiches, congratulations!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

Agreed. And how do you propose we do that in the 2024 election?

I'm going to keep saying this. Biden can step down as the DNC candidate at any minute. If he truly cared about the US he would do so.

Let’s live in this fantasy world for a minute. He steps down now, then what?

Kamala Harris?

Some other mythical candidate that can both satisfy you and have an actual chance of winning?

ANY non DNC hand-picked Democrat has a better chance of winning than Biden or Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.

I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.

I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.

Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.

That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

Agreed. And how do you propose we do that in the 2024 election?

I'm going to keep saying this. Biden can step down as the DNC candidate at any minute. If he truly cared about the US he would do so.

NP. I would also suggest that everyone who even considered the 25th with Trump should push it for Biden. A little consistency by the well-funded ‘anti-Trump’ forces would go a long way to restore trust.

Why? Just cite why. He hasn't tried to abuse the office so why?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

It's called leadership. It's something our country desperately needs and it's something Trump and Biden aren't capable of providing. They had their chance. Time to move on.

Agreed. And how do you propose we do that in the 2024 election?

I'm going to keep saying this. Biden can step down as the DNC candidate at any minute. If he truly cared about the US he would do so.

Let’s live in this fantasy world for a minute. He steps down now, then what?

Kamala Harris?

Some other mythical candidate that can both satisfy you and have an actual chance of winning?

ANY non DNC hand-picked Democrat has a better chance of winning than Biden or Trump.

OMG is is almost May so I thought we would be done with this stupidity. No other Democrat polls as well against Trump than Biden does, and the “hand-picking” you describe would cause incredible dissent within the party. Get over it, it’s not happening.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.

I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.

Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.

That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.

+1000.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.

I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.

Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.

That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.

+1

Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?

Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.

Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.

I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.

Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.

That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.

+1

Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?

Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.

“And I don’t care that American women will die in childbirth. It’s more important to send a message on foreign policy.”