Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
No, they've been killed because Hamas is hiding behind them.
Was Hamas hiding behind the woman and her elderly mother who were committing the sin of walking across a Catholic Church courtyard in Gaza when a sniper shot them dead?
You have nothing to hide behind. The world sees you, and this time, nobody is forgetting who you are, what you stand for, and your tether to pure evil.
I don't know where Hamas was hiding, and neither do you. Hamas knew full well where to find the Israeli military yet they attacked a music festival.
Pick a lane.
EITHER Hamas was hiding behind innocent men, women, and children OR you don’t know where they are hiding at all. Your words, not mine.
Really? So really you just consume and regurgitate the Israeli propaganda to justify killing innocent civilians. The solution to uncertainty is to indiscriminately bomb and strafe a blockaded land, killing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process?
As for the festival attack, it’s obvious that the Hamas attacks were based on convenience. I’m sure they would have preferred to commit those atrocities on more IDF personnel in those moments. Otherwise, it’s silly to suggest that they should have marched right up to an IDF tank and started throwing hands at the steel like idiots. Attacks should involve strategy, right? Who attacks head-on? Just pointing out the obvious.
Anyway, you are pretty terrible at debate. I hope you perform your day job to greater effect.
I will choose to believe that you do, and that you’re an otherwise lovely person except for your pro-Israel views.
You're defending the festival attack, but sure, I'm terrible at debate.
Your argument is that Hamas should have evaded detection while invading Israel, knocked on the front door of an IDF outpost with their dukes up, and fought "like a real man!" ... and you say this while cowering like a baby girl from behind Uncle Sam's pants leg, you coward.
You're not just terrible at debate, you don't know when to take an L and shut your mouth.
Dp- please stop. You aren’t good at this. You aren’t persuasive, and you are doubling down on the terrorist attack on the music festival. Just stop.
DP. If only it was that easy to silence others when they are wiping the floor with your piss-poor Zionist propaganda!
DP. I’m not one to spout the Russian troll thing, but it’s just impossible for me to imagine you as a fellow US citizen. You’re so off-base and hateful! On the terrorists’ side?! I so hope that you’re not ever anywhere near normal, decent people.
NP. Are you a bigot? A fool? A paid hasbarist? You’re questioning an American’s Americaness because they don’t support a genocidal regime, that’s pathetic.
Anonymous wrote:Why oh why didn’t either party put another candidate through? It would have been a slam dunk.
They were selected by primary voters. There were other candidates. The voters didn’t like them.
On the GOP side. Nobody serious ran on the Dem side because the DNC wouldn't back them (to their detriment now).
That’s ridiculous.
There was another candidate. People weren’t interested.
What serious candidate was running against Biden? You'd have to be a billionaire and self-finance your campaign. Also, you do know that in 2019 I was not able to vote for my preferred Dem candidate because we have a stupid system as were millions of others.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
No, they've been killed because Hamas is hiding behind them.
Was Hamas hiding behind the woman and her elderly mother who were committing the sin of walking across a Catholic Church courtyard in Gaza when a sniper shot them dead?
You have nothing to hide behind. The world sees you, and this time, nobody is forgetting who you are, what you stand for, and your tether to pure evil.
I don't know where Hamas was hiding, and neither do you. Hamas knew full well where to find the Israeli military yet they attacked a music festival.
Pick a lane.
EITHER Hamas was hiding behind innocent men, women, and children OR you don’t know where they are hiding at all. Your words, not mine.
Really? So really you just consume and regurgitate the Israeli propaganda to justify killing innocent civilians. The solution to uncertainty is to indiscriminately bomb and strafe a blockaded land, killing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process?
As for the festival attack, it’s obvious that the Hamas attacks were based on convenience. I’m sure they would have preferred to commit those atrocities on more IDF personnel in those moments. Otherwise, it’s silly to suggest that they should have marched right up to an IDF tank and started throwing hands at the steel like idiots. Attacks should involve strategy, right? Who attacks head-on? Just pointing out the obvious.
Anyway, you are pretty terrible at debate. I hope you perform your day job to greater effect.
I will choose to believe that you do, and that you’re an otherwise lovely person except for your pro-Israel views.
You're defending the festival attack, but sure, I'm terrible at debate.
Your argument is that Hamas should have evaded detection while invading Israel, knocked on the front door of an IDF outpost with their dukes up, and fought "like a real man!" ... and you say this while cowering like a baby girl from behind Uncle Sam's pants leg, you coward.
You're not just terrible at debate, you don't know when to take an L and shut your mouth.
Dp- please stop. You aren’t good at this. You aren’t persuasive, and you are doubling down on the terrorist attack on the music festival. Just stop.
DP. If only it was that easy to silence others when they are wiping the floor with your piss-poor Zionist propaganda!
DP. I’m not one to spout the Russian troll thing, but it’s just impossible for me to imagine you as a fellow US citizen. You’re so off-base and hateful! On the terrorists’ side?! I so hope that you’re not ever anywhere near normal, decent people.
NP. Are you a bigot? A fool? A paid hasbarist? You’re questioning an American’s Americaness because they don’t support a genocidal regime, that’s pathetic.
You’re losing and your sad selves know it.
You OTOH are supporting actual terrorists.
As opposed to you who is supporting a genocide regime??? I mean can you really defend your corner? Does no other human life matters to you except for Jewish lives?
Anonymous wrote:Why oh why didn’t either party put another candidate through? It would have been a slam dunk.
It would have been a slam dunk had either party been able to put forth a viable presidential candidate. What the American people want and what the wealthy and powerful elites at the RNC and DNC want are two different things and unfortunately, it's the elites who have more say in who is or isn't a viable candidate. We're at the mercy of the rich and powerful folks running our political show and the 2024 POTUS election debacle is where that has taken us. It's Trump vs Biden in 2024 regardless of how awful that sounds.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
No, they've been killed because Hamas is hiding behind them.
Was Hamas hiding behind the woman and her elderly mother who were committing the sin of walking across a Catholic Church courtyard in Gaza when a sniper shot them dead?
You have nothing to hide behind. The world sees you, and this time, nobody is forgetting who you are, what you stand for, and your tether to pure evil.
I don't know where Hamas was hiding, and neither do you. Hamas knew full well where to find the Israeli military yet they attacked a music festival.
Pick a lane.
EITHER Hamas was hiding behind innocent men, women, and children OR you don’t know where they are hiding at all. Your words, not mine.
Really? So really you just consume and regurgitate the Israeli propaganda to justify killing innocent civilians. The solution to uncertainty is to indiscriminately bomb and strafe a blockaded land, killing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process?
As for the festival attack, it’s obvious that the Hamas attacks were based on convenience. I’m sure they would have preferred to commit those atrocities on more IDF personnel in those moments. Otherwise, it’s silly to suggest that they should have marched right up to an IDF tank and started throwing hands at the steel like idiots. Attacks should involve strategy, right? Who attacks head-on? Just pointing out the obvious.
Anyway, you are pretty terrible at debate. I hope you perform your day job to greater effect.
I will choose to believe that you do, and that you’re an otherwise lovely person except for your pro-Israel views.
You're defending the festival attack, but sure, I'm terrible at debate.
Your argument is that Hamas should have evaded detection while invading Israel, knocked on the front door of an IDF outpost with their dukes up, and fought "like a real man!" ... and you say this while cowering like a baby girl from behind Uncle Sam's pants leg, you coward.
You're not just terrible at debate, you don't know when to take an L and shut your mouth.
Dp- please stop. You aren’t good at this. You aren’t persuasive, and you are doubling down on the terrorist attack on the music festival. Just stop.
DP. If only it was that easy to silence others when they are wiping the floor with your piss-poor Zionist propaganda!
DP. I’m not one to spout the Russian troll thing, but it’s just impossible for me to imagine you as a fellow US citizen. You’re so off-base and hateful! On the terrorists’ side?! I so hope that you’re not ever anywhere near normal, decent people.
NP. Are you a bigot? A fool? A paid hasbarist? You’re questioning an American’s Americaness because they don’t support a genocidal regime, that’s pathetic.
You’re losing and your sad selves know it.
You OTOH are supporting actual terrorists.
As opposed to you who is supporting a genocide regime??? I mean can you really defend your corner? Does no other human life matters to you except for Jewish lives?
Yet another DP. Hamas killed Americans and took other Americans hostage. What would you have done in Biden's shoes?
Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. He is such an amoral person. This Israel stuff has shown he is worst vs Trump. Watching 35,000 Palestinians women and children being killed and all Biden cares about is if the IDF triggers finger is getting tired.
Vladimir, your trolling in the employment of Mother Russia would be so much effective if you took the time to use proper grammar.
“This Israel stuff has shown he is worst vs Trump”? No, it’s “worse than Trump”. You can’t be “worst” when you’re comparing between two entities.
Oh, and it’s either “Palestinians” or “Palestinian women and children”.
Finally, it’s IDF “trigger finger” if you’re talking about the IDF as a singular entity, or about the typical IDF soldier. It’s “trigger fingers” if you’re emphasizing the plural, the collection of IDF soldiers. You don’t use two successive plural nouns as you do here: “triggers fingers”.
Stupid foreign policy ideas come in pairs, like GWOT+Iraq War 2.0. Now we are set to lose in Ukraine AND supply a genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. It seems like a group of DMV anoles is once again committed to its own pair of idiocies, EXCEPT, this group is going to blow up their own world much faster than they had even thought possible.
Watch out folks, the stupid*violent animal has realized it’s corned!
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
No, they've been killed because Hamas is hiding behind them.
Was Hamas hiding behind the woman and her elderly mother who were committing the sin of walking across a Catholic Church courtyard in Gaza when a sniper shot them dead?
You have nothing to hide behind. The world sees you, and this time, nobody is forgetting who you are, what you stand for, and your tether to pure evil.
I don't know where Hamas was hiding, and neither do you. Hamas knew full well where to find the Israeli military yet they attacked a music festival.
Pick a lane.
EITHER Hamas was hiding behind innocent men, women, and children OR you don’t know where they are hiding at all. Your words, not mine.
Really? So really you just consume and regurgitate the Israeli propaganda to justify killing innocent civilians. The solution to uncertainty is to indiscriminately bomb and strafe a blockaded land, killing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process?
As for the festival attack, it’s obvious that the Hamas attacks were based on convenience. I’m sure they would have preferred to commit those atrocities on more IDF personnel in those moments. Otherwise, it’s silly to suggest that they should have marched right up to an IDF tank and started throwing hands at the steel like idiots. Attacks should involve strategy, right? Who attacks head-on? Just pointing out the obvious.
Anyway, you are pretty terrible at debate. I hope you perform your day job to greater effect.
I will choose to believe that you do, and that you’re an otherwise lovely person except for your pro-Israel views.
You're defending the festival attack, but sure, I'm terrible at debate.
Your argument is that Hamas should have evaded detection while invading Israel, knocked on the front door of an IDF outpost with their dukes up, and fought "like a real man!" ... and you say this while cowering like a baby girl from behind Uncle Sam's pants leg, you coward.
You're not just terrible at debate, you don't know when to take an L and shut your mouth.
Dp- please stop. You aren’t good at this. You aren’t persuasive, and you are doubling down on the terrorist attack on the music festival. Just stop.
DP. If only it was that easy to silence others when they are wiping the floor with your piss-poor Zionist propaganda!
DP. I’m not one to spout the Russian troll thing, but it’s just impossible for me to imagine you as a fellow US citizen. You’re so off-base and hateful! On the terrorists’ side?! I so hope that you’re not ever anywhere near normal, decent people.
NP. Are you a bigot? A fool? A paid hasbarist? You’re questioning an American’s Americaness because they don’t support a genocidal regime, that’s pathetic.
You’re losing and your sad selves know it.
You OTOH are supporting actual terrorists.
As opposed to you who is supporting a genocide regime??? I mean can you really defend your corner? Does no other human life matters to you except for Jewish lives?
Yet another DP. Hamas killed Americans and took other Americans hostage. What would you have done in Biden's shoes?
Proportional response, 35000 dead children and women is not the answer. We are dammed for what evil we have supported.
Anonymous wrote:Why oh why didn’t either party put another candidate through? It would have been a slam dunk.
They were selected by primary voters. There were other candidates. The voters didn’t like them.
On the GOP side. Nobody serious ran on the Dem side because the DNC wouldn't back them (to their detriment now).
That’s ridiculous.
There was another candidate. People weren’t interested.
What serious candidate was running against Biden? You'd have to be a billionaire and self-finance your campaign. Also, you do know that in 2019 I was not able to vote for my preferred Dem candidate because we have a stupid system as were millions of others.
Yeah sweetie, there was an actual multimillionaire on the ballot. That you don’t know that, is the least surprising thing I’ve read here in ages.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
No, they've been killed because Hamas is hiding behind them.
Was Hamas hiding behind the woman and her elderly mother who were committing the sin of walking across a Catholic Church courtyard in Gaza when a sniper shot them dead?
You have nothing to hide behind. The world sees you, and this time, nobody is forgetting who you are, what you stand for, and your tether to pure evil.
I don't know where Hamas was hiding, and neither do you. Hamas knew full well where to find the Israeli military yet they attacked a music festival.
Pick a lane.
EITHER Hamas was hiding behind innocent men, women, and children OR you don’t know where they are hiding at all. Your words, not mine.
Really? So really you just consume and regurgitate the Israeli propaganda to justify killing innocent civilians. The solution to uncertainty is to indiscriminately bomb and strafe a blockaded land, killing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process?
As for the festival attack, it’s obvious that the Hamas attacks were based on convenience. I’m sure they would have preferred to commit those atrocities on more IDF personnel in those moments. Otherwise, it’s silly to suggest that they should have marched right up to an IDF tank and started throwing hands at the steel like idiots. Attacks should involve strategy, right? Who attacks head-on? Just pointing out the obvious.
Anyway, you are pretty terrible at debate. I hope you perform your day job to greater effect.
I will choose to believe that you do, and that you’re an otherwise lovely person except for your pro-Israel views.
You're defending the festival attack, but sure, I'm terrible at debate.
Your argument is that Hamas should have evaded detection while invading Israel, knocked on the front door of an IDF outpost with their dukes up, and fought "like a real man!" ... and you say this while cowering like a baby girl from behind Uncle Sam's pants leg, you coward.
You're not just terrible at debate, you don't know when to take an L and shut your mouth.
Dp- please stop. You aren’t good at this. You aren’t persuasive, and you are doubling down on the terrorist attack on the music festival. Just stop.
DP. If only it was that easy to silence others when they are wiping the floor with your piss-poor Zionist propaganda!
DP. I’m not one to spout the Russian troll thing, but it’s just impossible for me to imagine you as a fellow US citizen. You’re so off-base and hateful! On the terrorists’ side?! I so hope that you’re not ever anywhere near normal, decent people.
NP. Are you a bigot? A fool? A paid hasbarist? You’re questioning an American’s Americaness because they don’t support a genocidal regime, that’s pathetic.
You’re losing and your sad selves know it.
You OTOH are supporting actual terrorists.
As opposed to you who is supporting a genocide regime??? I mean can you really defend your corner? Does no other human life matters to you except for Jewish lives?
Yet another DP. Hamas killed Americans and took other Americans hostage. What would you have done in Biden's shoes?
Proportional response, 35000 dead children and women is not the answer. We are dammed for what evil we have supported.
We all agree that Netanyahu is horrible. But what should *Biden* do? Supporting a regime change in Israel is not on the table.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
No, they've been killed because Hamas is hiding behind them.
Was Hamas hiding behind the woman and her elderly mother who were committing the sin of walking across a Catholic Church courtyard in Gaza when a sniper shot them dead?
You have nothing to hide behind. The world sees you, and this time, nobody is forgetting who you are, what you stand for, and your tether to pure evil.
I don't know where Hamas was hiding, and neither do you. Hamas knew full well where to find the Israeli military yet they attacked a music festival.
Pick a lane.
EITHER Hamas was hiding behind innocent men, women, and children OR you don’t know where they are hiding at all. Your words, not mine.
Really? So really you just consume and regurgitate the Israeli propaganda to justify killing innocent civilians. The solution to uncertainty is to indiscriminately bomb and strafe a blockaded land, killing tens of thousands of innocent people in the process?
As for the festival attack, it’s obvious that the Hamas attacks were based on convenience. I’m sure they would have preferred to commit those atrocities on more IDF personnel in those moments. Otherwise, it’s silly to suggest that they should have marched right up to an IDF tank and started throwing hands at the steel like idiots. Attacks should involve strategy, right? Who attacks head-on? Just pointing out the obvious.
Anyway, you are pretty terrible at debate. I hope you perform your day job to greater effect.
I will choose to believe that you do, and that you’re an otherwise lovely person except for your pro-Israel views.
You're defending the festival attack, but sure, I'm terrible at debate.
Your argument is that Hamas should have evaded detection while invading Israel, knocked on the front door of an IDF outpost with their dukes up, and fought "like a real man!" ... and you say this while cowering like a baby girl from behind Uncle Sam's pants leg, you coward.
You're not just terrible at debate, you don't know when to take an L and shut your mouth.
Dp- please stop. You aren’t good at this. You aren’t persuasive, and you are doubling down on the terrorist attack on the music festival. Just stop.
DP. If only it was that easy to silence others when they are wiping the floor with your piss-poor Zionist propaganda!
DP. I’m not one to spout the Russian troll thing, but it’s just impossible for me to imagine you as a fellow US citizen. You’re so off-base and hateful! On the terrorists’ side?! I so hope that you’re not ever anywhere near normal, decent people.
NP. Are you a bigot? A fool? A paid hasbarist? You’re questioning an American’s Americaness because they don’t support a genocidal regime, that’s pathetic.
You’re losing and your sad selves know it.
You OTOH are supporting actual terrorists.
As opposed to you who is supporting a genocide regime??? I mean can you really defend your corner? Does no other human life matters to you except for Jewish lives?
Yet another DP. Hamas killed Americans and took other Americans hostage. What would you have done in Biden's shoes?
Proportional response, 35000 dead children and women is not the answer. We are dammed for what evil we have supported.
We all agree that Netanyahu is horrible. But what should *Biden* do? Supporting a regime change in Israel is not on the table.
why not? what's so special about them?
just as jewish issues split Americans here, why not agitate over there to sow fissures in Israel?
Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.
LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.
There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.
But, sure carry on with the head scratching.
Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.
The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.
If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.
I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.
It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.
Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.
There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.
Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.
Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.
This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.
Correct?
If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.
You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.
Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.
If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.
If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.
DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.
NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.
We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.
We had all that and worse with Trump. You have to acknowledge that.
Tell me which genocide we supplied with materiel and diplomatic support or STFU.
I don't agree with the use of "genocide" to describe what's happening in Gaza. The term was coined during WW2 to describe what Hitler did to the Jews for the crime of simply existing. What Israel is doing now is a response to an attack that killed hundreds of civilians and took hundreds more hostage.
Cutting off the food and water to a civilian population is genocide, especially when Israeli Ministers regularly use genocidal language for their intent.
That you can’t see it or refuse to see it is entirely a reflection on you.
+1
Just shocking that people cannot understand the extremism in the positions they are taking. This isn’t genocide because people are not being killed just for being? Really?
Are you paying attention? Tens of thousands of people have already been killed just for being.
What will happen under Trump? How will this situation improve?
Loooool if the Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel happened under Trump, Trump would have told Bibi to use the nukes himself. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Those two are cut from the same cloth.
I agree. But I am confused by those who are ok with Trump winning because they are vehemently against Biden’s handling of the situation. So they want Trump, who will be worse? Or are they just too ignorant of Trump’s polices to understand that?
The closest I got to an answer previously on this board was that they actually don’t care if Trump is worse, as long as Dems dump Israel as an ally in 2028. So basically they don’t actually care about people dying, or at least don’t seem to care if it gets worse under Trump. As long as Dem learn their lesson in 4 years. It’s an odd and heartless thought process, given how many women, poor and minorities will also suffer under Trump.
You d*ckhwads have zero clue what we are doing in Israel. It sure as sh—- isn’t going to be featured on CNN anytime soon.
It’s been widely reposted that Biden and Bibi don’t like each other. That’s it.
What we do behind the scenes to tank his ass and bust up his coalition isn’t for us to know..
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