Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:One word: Climate Change. Southern Universities will not just drop in enrollment, they will literally shut down. Tornado Alley is also moving southeast directly on top MS TN, AL.

LOL

Are you always this nutty or is this a particularly good day for you?

PS - climate change is two words.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

Tennessee cities and college towns are heavily Democratic. It's a shame that some states are run by Republicans just because they have large rural areas that vote Republican. And then I have to wonder what it is about rural people that compels them to vote Republican. It's the same in blue states.

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Anonymous wrote:One word: Climate Change. Southern Universities will not just drop in enrollment, they will literally shut down. Tornado Alley is also moving southeast directly on top MS TN, AL.

LOL

Are you always this nutty or is this a particularly good day for you?

PS - climate change is two words.

Wrong. It’s now climate crisis. Man-made climate crisis.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

Tennessee cities and college towns are heavily Democratic. It's a shame that some states are run by Republicans just because they have large rural areas that vote Republican. And then I have to wonder what it is about rural people that compels them to vote Republican. It's the same in blue states.

It’s not a shame at all. It’s their saving grace.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

[Anonymous]

There is a long running effort to split Jewish people from elite institutions. The arguments are sometimes a little disingenuous as seen here.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a long running effort to split Jewish people from elite institutions. The arguments are sometimes a little disingenuous as seen here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

The rich out of state kids who go to the Southern flagships can afford to fly out of state to take care of such things.

Please stop: most of us are concerned about emergency situations when women are turned away from ERs and forced to bleed out in parking lots

Good luck, southerners

These kinds of histrionics never fail to amuse me. The vast *vast* majority of abortions are not because of health reasons. I support abortion rights and don't like the six week laws or complete bans but how many women in a typical year are bleeding to death in a parking lot versus the number of abortions due to a one night stand?

Why did you throw in the one night stand? Do women have to meet your moral standards before they are alowed access to health care? What century are we living in?

The vast majority-maybe- but I wouldn’t want my kid to flirt with death because if an ectopic pregnancy in the south. It’s happening to someone’s daughter.

No. It is not. Just stop it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

It’s not that everyone is so conservative across the south. There are a lot of majority black cities in the south (Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, MS, Montgomery, Shreveport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge…all have a majority black population and politics that reflect that demographic) and those places solidly vote democratic.

+Savannah, Mobile, Augusta & Macon in GA. Soon the city of Atlanta will be majority black too w population shift there.

So I’d expect the south to become more democratic voters in the future too. The old guard, the good old boys type are thankfully thinning out.

LOL. You people are delusional. The people moving into the Red states from Blue states are more Republican than the existing population. Why do you think they’re moving?

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

It’s not that everyone is so conservative across the south. There are a lot of majority black cities in the south (Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, MS, Montgomery, Shreveport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge…all have a majority black population and politics that reflect that demographic) and those places solidly vote democratic.

+Savannah, Mobile, Augusta & Macon in GA. Soon the city of Atlanta will be majority black too w population shift there.

So I’d expect the south to become more democratic voters in the future too. The old guard, the good old boys type are thankfully thinning out.

LOL. You people are delusional. The people moving into the Red states from Blue states are more Republican than the existing population. Why do you think they’re moving?

for the weather you all touted for the first 5 pages of this thread and the cheap college costs.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.