Reasons why one would not accept TJ offer?

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Anonymous wrote:I support equity but not equity politics. In the realm of equity politics, political gains are often achieved at the expense of the suffering of the target segment that they claim to uplift. The callous school board members are gambling with the lives of innocent students from poorly equipped middle schools and their less informed parents.

So you feel things were better when only kids who could afford to buy the test answers got in?

Still using the same old build up to promote Curie?

Is Curie the enrichment center? We heard their curriculum is one of the toughest and a good number quit partway for that reason and likely others. Do they teach anything more than above grade math, science, english, etc.?

We first heard about Curie from this forum almost three years ago, and enrolled our child in math and english combined program. Thank you all.
Yes, Cure is not easy and not for everyone. Initially, they do placement evaluation, and enroll in bridge courses if child is weak in an area. Keeping up with homework is required and there are periodic evaluations. A good number of kids we know have quit halfway as their curriculum is tough, almost year and a half to two years above school grade. Instruction is excellent, but few kids find it frustrating not getting advanced concepts at the pace taught. They recommend moving down a level, and few kids do, but others leave as they dont not want to sit with lower grade kids. But if child likes Curie, then they really enjoy the challenge. Price is comparable to other enrichment, like kumon, rsm, etc., but way cheaper than AoPs. Our child does basketball travel league, and Curie costs less than what we spend on basketball yearly.

That is right. We prepare kids who would never be able to get a good grade without fully learning the material in advance.

So for example, we would fully teach your kid AP Physics C, even before they step into the classroom. That way they can think of school as just review - having already learnt all the material beforehand. Having practiced all the tests beforehand. So you do not leave it chance. They can play video games in school if they want (an additional advantage).

We hope you employ our services when your child goes to college as well, so they are fully prepared before each course. Of course, you have the option of getting tutors.

Thanks again for your patronage.

- The Real Curie Owner

Hello Real Curie Owner, We were told current AP Physics C class is full. Will you be starting a second class? Thanks.

Absolutely. We cater to lazy parents as well who do not bother to keep abreast of our courses.

We find the same parents also bring their children to classes a little late. So our new class has a built in 30 minute delay from advertised start time. Children who come on time get 30 minute of video games - all STEM certified.

- The Real Curie Owner

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

I for one miss the good old days where you could just buy your way into TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

What do you mean "not that kind of test"? Personally, I think switching to the essay-based exam is even worse for non-preppers as it's a skill that's less likely to be known by those who don't prep. Great for prep companies, not so great for everyone who doesn't use them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

What do you mean "not that kind of test"? Personally, I think switching to the essay-based exam is even worse for non-preppers as it's a skill that's less likely to be known by those who don't prep. Great for prep companies, not so great for everyone who doesn't use them.

Guess it depends on what they're looking for. Probably not for polished essays, though.

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Anonymous wrote:epping for the Cogat wrecks it, they have not become TO for AAP. For TJ, the situation was different. Prepping for the quant test does wreck it but the cheating scandal was much worse, when they were working off of actual test questions, copied by students and given to the prep school in violation of the honor code. A bad business all around and not something for anyone to be proud of.

This is just a guess.

Not a guess.

It is a guess. What student said they gave answers to Curie?

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If you are looking to increase the number of girls, an essay is an excellent choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

Thank you for your continued support. We do have referral bonus.

- The Real Curie Owner

I for one miss the good old days where you could just buy your way into TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

I for one miss the good old days where you could just buy your way into TJ.

Thank you for your continued support. We do have referral bonus.

- The Real Curie Owner

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

Cram and jam, it is!
Advanced post AP/DE Math classes are still offered at TJ, and mostly taken by advanced math students entering with Geometry or Algebra 2 credits. The big shift that occurred along with admissions change is more Algebra 1 kids needing remedial math are being admitted, which makes it quite challenging for these students to go past the bare minimum AP Calc AB. So you can say, the math path for these bottom kids has been ratcheted down.

Curie's 8th grade full year curriculum includes not just algebra2 but also trig.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

I for one miss the good old days where you could just buy your way into TJ.

#backdoorKaren

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Anonymous wrote:Does Curie offer Summer classes?

Yes, Curie offers a wide range of summer STEM courses. We are enrolled at Curie during the year for academics, and DC wants to continue challenge during the summer as well, but do something more interesting. We enrolled in Robotics & Arduinos last summer, and this summer looking forward to Product Design STEM Camp. There is also the Creative Writing Bootcamp, where as part of final project DC wrote an amazing story about visiting Galapagos Islands with their favorite Marvel characters.

Thank you we will look into those classes right way. DC is a hard core marvel fan too. lol.

We are very happy with Curie, but almost every Curie class is full. Please be considerate to existing students and don't make it more crowded. Please consider other enrichment centers.

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Anonymous wrote:Reasons to not accept:
1. Commute
2. Friends live far away on weekends
3. Too Asian (if you’re white)
4. Sports teams suck

Which sports teams suck, exactly? TJ's actually been significantly outperforming expectations in most sports for the past several years since they were moved out of districts with schools that are way bigger than them in terms of student population.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

Cram and jam, it is!
Advanced post AP/DE Math classes are still offered at TJ, and mostly taken by advanced math students entering with Geometry or Algebra 2 credits. The big shift that occurred along with admissions change is more Algebra 1 kids needing remedial math are being admitted, which makes it quite challenging for these students to go past the bare minimum AP Calc AB. So you can say, the math path for these bottom kids has been ratcheted down.

Curie's 8th grade full year curriculum includes not just algebra2 but also trig.

Silly post. Now we can see that you don't know what you're talking about.

For others who are reading this thread, TJ accommodates highly accelerated kids but is designed to provide great opportunities to regular STEM gifted kids. The math class acceleration only started in the past 10 years or so and it can stop now.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

Cram and jam, it is!
Advanced post AP/DE Math classes are still offered at TJ, and mostly taken by advanced math students entering with Geometry or Algebra 2 credits. The big shift that occurred along with admissions change is more Algebra 1 kids needing remedial math are being admitted, which makes it quite challenging for these students to go past the bare minimum AP Calc AB. So you can say, the math path for these bottom kids has been ratcheted down.

Curie's 8th grade full year curriculum includes not just algebra2 but also trig.

Silly post. Now we can see that you don't know what you're talking about.

For others who are reading this thread, TJ accommodates highly accelerated kids but is designed to provide great opportunities to regular STEM gifted kids. The math class acceleration only started in the past 10 years or so and it can stop now.

Nah it will continue as it should. there will just be a noticeable difference between the top group of performers and the bottom group of performers.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd they couldn’t figure out new questions every year?

They did. The notion that the problems seen at Curie were the exact same as those asked in future admissions test is false. "Buying the answers" really means "buying past questions and answers".

Personally, I think the solution would have been to publicly release past exams to reduce the benefit of places like Curies

No, it's not that kind of test. The solution was to scrap it and change to a different type of test. Which they did. Problem solved. People complain, but people complain about everything.

Your BS story has been sending more traffic towards Curie, and demand for math and science enrichment has grown multifold after the test was scrapped. Do you work for Curie?

If people want to send their children to a cram school associated with that behavior, that's on them.

The changes made to the admissions process have successfully racheted down the math class arms race. Thankfully.

Cram and jam, it is!
Advanced post AP/DE Math classes are still offered at TJ, and mostly taken by advanced math students entering with Geometry or Algebra 2 credits. The big shift that occurred along with admissions change is more Algebra 1 kids needing remedial math are being admitted, which makes it quite challenging for these students to go past the bare minimum AP Calc AB. So you can say, the math path for these bottom kids has been ratcheted down.

Curie's 8th grade full year curriculum includes not just algebra2 but also trig.

Silly post. Now we can see that you don't know what you're talking about.

For others who are reading this thread, TJ accommodates highly accelerated kids but is designed to provide great opportunities to regular STEM gifted kids. The math class acceleration only started in the past 10 years or so and it can stop now.

Nah it will continue as it should. there will just be a noticeable difference between the top group of performers and the bottom group of performers.

I've been around TJ for a lot longer than pretty much anyone on this forum. There has ALWAYS been a noticeable difference between the top group of performers and the bottom group of performers. That has not changed significantly with the new classes.

The biggest difference is that now, most of the kids who are struggling on some level get their support from inside the school building - which is how it should be - because they are more open about their struggles and because they can't afford getting the help from outside.

As much as it harms the pernicious narrative, there just isn't that much difference between the TJ of 5-10 years ago and the TJ of today when it comes to ability. A few more kids are entering in geometry and a few more kids need a little bit of extra help to keep up. But there is a huge difference in the way the kids treat each other and the way they interact with their environment - and there's an even bigger difference in the parent cohort and their attitude toward the educational process. Once the last of the nutjob parents graduate with the Class of 2024, that process will be complete and TJ will be a much healthier place than it has been.