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Anonymous wrote:Can folks clarify whether the guidance is to RTO full time or just more?

I’m a State Department employee presently working in-person 16 hours per week. Will the likely expectation be for me to work in-person something more like 24 hours per week (I.e., 60 percent), or to return to in-person almost full time?

FYI that I’m on annual leave right now so not receiving any guidance from my management or agency.

I've been on AL for a week too but my understanding is that there isn't official new guidance, just strong encouragement, which means that all new guidance is trickling out agency by agency right now. We can't say whether agencies will all increase from their current requirements or say "look we're already doing it!"

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

DP. I’ll never vote for republicans but I just sat out my local election for the first time, purely because I have just lost interest and patience and forgot to vote. Engagement is important. Turn people’s attention elsewhere (to the stress on their livelihoods for example) at your peril. Stressed out people don’t vote.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

I've seen what a complete dumpster fire the corrupt Biden administration has been.
And yes, there really is no hope for you.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

I've seen what a complete dumpster fire the corrupt Biden administration has been.
And yes, there really is no hope for you.

I have yet to see any indictments in the Biden Administration or his campaign. At this time in the Trump Administration there were dozens. Maybe rely on facts rather than the right wing echo chamber that has proven time, and time again, to lie to people like you.

Examples: Hillary murdered Seth Rich and Vince Foster. The democrats run a pedo-ring out of the basement at Comet Pizza (there was no pedo ring and Comet doesn't have a basement the 2020 election was stolen (Fox News paid how much to Dominion for their lies? Rudy just admitted he lied about GA poll workers etc) IOW, there is no proof to ANY corruption in the Biden Administration, and Hunter Biden has basically pled guilty to some stuff that has nothing to do with the White House, the Presidency, the Vice-Presidency, the Biden Campaign or anything else official.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

When exactly was that?

Oh I dunno, maybe during the multiple time periods when the controlled Congress and the Presidency.

Tell me you don't understand the filibuster without telling me you don't understand the filibuster.

Are all feds so ill-informed?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

I've seen what a complete dumpster fire the corrupt Biden administration has been.
And yes, there really is no hope for you.

So the lessons here are that (i) you are unoriginal, and can't even come up with your own insults, and (ii) you were never going to vote for Biden anyway, and RTO is just a fig leaf.

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Anonymous wrote:I love WFH more than anyone, but there’s no question that RTO is much better for the local economy. Lunches, metro rides, parking fees, dry cleaners, etc.

Need to rethink spaces. Turn offices into apartment buildings. Lots of us would love to be able to afford to live in the middle of the city so that we could walk everywhere especially on weekends.

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Anonymous wrote:Can folks clarify whether the guidance is to RTO full time or just more?

I’m a State Department employee presently working in-person 16 hours per week. Will the likely expectation be for me to work in-person something more like 24 hours per week (I.e., 60 percent), or to return to in-person almost full time?

FYI that I’m on annual leave right now so not receiving any guidance from my management or agency.

The reality is that it will be "just more" and not full-time RTO.

This is the beginning of the process to re-open discussion on the portion of the collective bargaining agreements to get people in the office with more frequency (to the extent that your approved home location is located near an office for your agency). My guess is that they will want 90%+ of federal employees reporting to an office 3 days per week.

Lots of agencies have consolidated leases and building footprints. For many agencies, they would no longer be able to host all employees 5 days per week. This is why I think it won't be a 5 days per week RTO - it's basically now impossible to implement with people who have permanent remote agreements and lack of desk space for everyone.

The one element that is still up in the air is how to handle people who still work on high level matters for federal HQ, but do so remotely from a place where no agency office is within 100 miles. Sure, they can adjust locality pay to match up. But clearly it will be impossible for them to report to an office 3 days/week and I can't see how the federal government can force them to move after it approved a new duty station. Those people will likely have a benefit others will never have again, but at the same time I doubt they will see career advancement.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

I've seen what a complete dumpster fire the corrupt Biden administration has been.
And yes, there really is no hope for you.

I have yet to see any indictments in the Biden Administration or his campaign. At this time in the Trump Administration there were dozens. Maybe rely on facts rather than the right wing echo chamber that has proven time, and time again, to lie to people like you.

Examples: Hillary murdered Seth Rich and Vince Foster. The democrats run a pedo-ring out of the basement at Comet Pizza (there was no pedo ring and Comet doesn't have a basement the 2020 election was stolen (Fox News paid how much to Dominion for their lies? Rudy just admitted he lied about GA poll workers etc) IOW, there is no proof to ANY corruption in the Biden Administration, and Hunter Biden has basically pled guilty to some stuff that has nothing to do with the White House, the Presidency, the Vice-Presidency, the Biden Campaign or anything else official.

That the DOJ and others have suppressed evidence is well known and documented now.

Pssst..
Check out Biden's poll numbers.
He's toast.

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I won’t vote for a Republican but I’m not donating money or energy to a Biden campaign because of this policy. I usually at least donate money to a presidential campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

NP. Oh, stop gaslighting. It is perfectly reasonable to vote against the president who causes a sharp decrease in your standard of living and personal happiness. Your entitlement is off the charts. Democrats aren’t owed the votes of fed workers.

I’m private sector with a competitive skill set (constantly recruited) and work hybrid. I like hybrid. But if I was made to go in every day, my resignation would happen the next day, as I am not worried about my ability to get a job. I don’t see why feds should not be expected to have the same freedom of choice, perhaps more because they make so much less for a similar skill set.

Of course the PP is going to vote against the president who makes her life much worse. Who wouldn’t?

I’m really amused by the feds who think their life would be better under a republican president, or that a R president and congress would t call them back to the office. Guess the stereotype about feds being not so bright has more truth to it than I realized.

You sound very dim.

There are plenty of feds who quite reasonably think their lives would be better under Republicans, and they have the work experience to prove it. You are just stupidly partisan and so don’t understand this.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

NP. Oh, stop gaslighting. It is perfectly reasonable to vote against the president who causes a sharp decrease in your standard of living and personal happiness. Your entitlement is off the charts. Democrats aren’t owed the votes of fed workers.

I’m private sector with a competitive skill set (constantly recruited) and work hybrid. I like hybrid. But if I was made to go in every day, my resignation would happen the next day, as I am not worried about my ability to get a job. I don’t see why feds should not be expected to have the same freedom of choice, perhaps more because they make so much less for a similar skill set.

Of course the PP is going to vote against the president who makes her life much worse. Who wouldn’t?

A lot of people. By that logic, I'd never vote for democrats, who want to increase the minimum wage, raise taxes on the wealthy, support labor unions, and (ironically) keep the federal government fully staffed and functioning. But I vote for them anyway, because it's the right thing to do, and I don't put my petty desires above everything else. And make no mistake about it, "I need to spend more time in the office than I do now" is really petty, comparatively speaking.

Also, that's not what gaslighting is. You sound like my teenager, who thinks anytime she hears something she doesn't like it's gaslighting, It makes you sound silly.

You are just lying to yourself to prop up your ego. You are absolutely a beautiful example of the progressive who likes to tell other people what to do but would never actually do whatever they are ordering yourself.

I’m genuinely laughing at the idea that you believe you are a good person for voting for Democrats. What a egotistical nutcase you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I won’t vote for a Republican but I’m not donating money or energy to a Biden campaign because of this policy. I usually at least donate money to a presidential campaign.

I stopped all ActBlue donations already. I don’t need or want the current Democratic Party, for a variety of reasons. RTO isn’t a big one for me because I’m already hybrid and I am private sector, but the idiocy of the policy and open kowtowing to big donor interests over loyal fed employees is such a turnoff.

I’m sitting this one out. The Democrats don’t want or need me anyhow, as they’ve made clear.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

When exactly was that?

Oh I dunno, maybe during the multiple time periods when the controlled Congress and the Presidency.

Tell me you don't understand the filibuster without telling me you don't understand the filibuster.

Are all feds so ill-informed?

they never even tried

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

NP. Oh, stop gaslighting. It is perfectly reasonable to vote against the president who causes a sharp decrease in your standard of living and personal happiness. Your entitlement is off the charts. Democrats aren’t owed the votes of fed workers.

I’m private sector with a competitive skill set (constantly recruited) and work hybrid. I like hybrid. But if I was made to go in every day, my resignation would happen the next day, as I am not worried about my ability to get a job. I don’t see why feds should not be expected to have the same freedom of choice, perhaps more because they make so much less for a similar skill set.

Of course the PP is going to vote against the president who makes her life much worse. Who wouldn’t?

A lot of people. By that logic, I'd never vote for democrats, who want to increase the minimum wage, raise taxes on the wealthy, support labor unions, and (ironically) keep the federal government fully staffed and functioning. But I vote for them anyway, because it's the right thing to do, and I don't put my petty desires above everything else. And make no mistake about it, "I need to spend more time in the office than I do now" is really petty, comparatively speaking.

Also, that's not what gaslighting is. You sound like my teenager, who thinks anytime she hears something she doesn't like it's gaslighting, It makes you sound silly.

You are just lying to yourself to prop up your ego. You are absolutely a beautiful example of the progressive who likes to tell other people what to do but would never actually do whatever they are ordering yourself.

I’m genuinely laughing at the idea that you believe you are a good person for voting for Democrats. What a egotistical nutcase you are.

I am absolutely not a progressive. And I have no idea what point you are trying to make. The fact is, people vote against their self-interest all the time, for the greater good. The fact that you think that is laughable really says a lot about you.

Also, what am I suggesting others do that I don't?