Biden wants RTO

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I love WFH more than anyone, but there’s no question that RTO is much better for the local economy. Lunches, metro rides, parking fees, dry cleaners, etc.

I'll take metro, but won't do any of those other things (dry cleaning - my office is business casual, I wear Boden, which is machine wash; I bring lunch, I don't drive or buy coffee).

That's you. In aggregate, RTO will be a huge boost to local economies in downtown business districts. Not only do people spend more on transportation, parking, food, and services, but filling up downtown offices has the potential to also bring back downtown retail.

Complain about it all you want but this is the way the wind is blowing. Better get those Boden dresses ready.

I have limited sympathy for municipalities suffering from less activity because they partly brought it upon themselves by encouraging everyone to stay home for so long. Plenty of other areas re-opened schools and workplaces fall of 2020 but that was seen as too dangerous here, even with masks. But that was still at a time where folks weren't so used to WFH (I for one did not like it). The longer it went on, the more we adapted and questioned why we needed to go in so much.

YEP

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

+1. They wanted to continue to use it as a campaign issue and money-raising tactic. And still will, so win-win for the Dems.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

NP. Oh, stop gaslighting. It is perfectly reasonable to vote against the president who causes a sharp decrease in your standard of living and personal happiness. Your entitlement is off the charts. Democrats aren’t owed the votes of fed workers.

I’m private sector with a competitive skill set (constantly recruited) and work hybrid. I like hybrid. But if I was made to go in every day, my resignation would happen the next day, as I am not worried about my ability to get a job. I don’t see why feds should not be expected to have the same freedom of choice, perhaps more because they make so much less for a similar skill set.

Of course the PP is going to vote against the president who makes her life much worse. Who wouldn’t?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

NP. Oh, stop gaslighting. It is perfectly reasonable to vote against the president who causes a sharp decrease in your standard of living and personal happiness. Your entitlement is off the charts. Democrats aren’t owed the votes of fed workers.

I’m private sector with a competitive skill set (constantly recruited) and work hybrid. I like hybrid. But if I was made to go in every day, my resignation would happen the next day, as I am not worried about my ability to get a job. I don’t see why feds should not be expected to have the same freedom of choice, perhaps more because they make so much less for a similar skill set.

Of course the PP is going to vote against the president who makes her life much worse. Who wouldn’t?

I’m really amused by the feds who think their life would be better under a republican president, or that a R president and congress would t call them back to the office. Guess the stereotype about feds being not so bright has more truth to it than I realized.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

YES. This was what the Supreme Court indicated. Congress should codify it, not the SC.

[Anonymous]

Can folks clarify whether the guidance is to RTO full time or just more?

I’m a State Department employee presently working in-person 16 hours per week. Will the likely expectation be for me to work in-person something more like 24 hours per week (I.e., 60 percent), or to return to in-person almost full time?

FYI that I’m on annual leave right now so not receiving any guidance from my management or agency.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

Are you joking? The R front runner never thought COVID was a problem in the first place. Get real.

R's aren't totally unfriendly to their federal employees when in office. I mean the pandemic remote posture was during Trump and he gave fed employees raises that were higher than under Obama. Wasn't a big deal under GW Bush either. I do hope Democrats don't think they can just dump on fed employees and continue to get their vote because that just won't happen.

Trump also started paid parental leave, which is huge. I'd vote for him again if he gives us benefits like he did the last time.

He did? I’m on maternity leave right now. Where’s this paid parental leave?

Um are you a fed? We have 12 weeks paternal leave.

[Anonymous]

At a mgt. meeting and building teamwork and culture is a topic.

Remote work and Hybrid is killing team work and culture. Particularly new hires and new grads.

Nurses, Firemen, Military all are doing great.

Most new people don’t care about our mission, members, company, co-workers or even their job.

How do you change it?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

You seriously should read a paper sometime.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

When exactly was that?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

So you can be mostly a one issue voter, butt someone who disagrees with you can't? Yeah, ok.

First,if you need a laundry list of other ways a Republican President would be terrible, there's really no hope for you. Second, I identified two major issues. Third, being a one issue voter is pretty silly in any circumstance, but it's just absurd when the issue is, "I am being required to do something, once again, hat I did for years before the pandemic."

NP. Oh, stop gaslighting. It is perfectly reasonable to vote against the president who causes a sharp decrease in your standard of living and personal happiness. Your entitlement is off the charts. Democrats aren’t owed the votes of fed workers.

I’m private sector with a competitive skill set (constantly recruited) and work hybrid. I like hybrid. But if I was made to go in every day, my resignation would happen the next day, as I am not worried about my ability to get a job. I don’t see why feds should not be expected to have the same freedom of choice, perhaps more because they make so much less for a similar skill set.

Of course the PP is going to vote against the president who makes her life much worse. Who wouldn’t?

A lot of people. By that logic, I'd never vote for democrats, who want to increase the minimum wage, raise taxes on the wealthy, support labor unions, and (ironically) keep the federal government fully staffed and functioning. But I vote for them anyway, because it's the right thing to do, and I don't put my petty desires above everything else. And make no mistake about it, "I need to spend more time in the office than I do now" is really petty, comparatively speaking.

Also, that's not what gaslighting is. You sound like my teenager, who thinks anytime she hears something she doesn't like it's gaslighting, It makes you sound silly.

[Anonymous]

Ivanka Trump is responsible for the 12 weeks of paid leave for maternity and paternity leave.

[Anonymous]

I work at HHS. We've been back two days per pay period for the past two years per our division leadership. We received an email that 15s and SES should be in the office 3x a week starting in October for DC and December for regional offices. I thought this was ridiculous since all of my team (GS-11-14s) have been in the office 2x a week for the past two years since RTW.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

Yeah, because Rs screw up the economy so that Ds have to clean up a recession. That always comes with lower inflation.

I agree with you that Rs are awful, but no one has pointed to anything where the R presidential candidates said they would force federal employees back to the office. If Biden makes me spend 15 hours per week commuting just to please his rich donors, he is not getting my vote. I have no clue why anyone would support a candidate who gives such a strong middle finger to you. We don't know if a R would be better, but based on what Biden is advocating, it won't be any worse. So I'll take my chances.

I agree. The heck with all those women who may lose the right to choose. And I don't really care if corporate taxers are lowered to nothing. If I have ot do the commute I signed on for pre-pandemic, it'll turn me into a Trump voter. MAGA!!

The right to choose is already gone. Strange to hinge your vote on an issue that is no longer even up for debate at the national level. And what exactly has Biden done to raise corporate taxes?

Maybe the feckin’ useless Dems should have codified the right to choice and interstate reproductive services when they had the chance.

When exactly was that?

Oh I dunno, maybe during the multiple time periods when the controlled Congress and the Presidency.