Boundaries assessment update 2023

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Students don’t learn well in a school as big as West Potomac and there are areas near MV zoned to West Po.

Tell that to the families at Chantilly who are glad their kids go there. 2914 at last count. West Potomac: 2679

There are definitely people at Chantilly unhappy about the size of the school. Same at Centreville. But in these cases, unlike at West Potomac, there also wasn't really anywhere else for the kids to go.

That's easy to say. Kind of interesting that someone has such a finger on the pulse of Chantilly, Centreville, and West Potomac.

It's not unimportant to look at situations across the county, as opposed to just letting individual politicians like Corbett Sanders get what they want.

I keep hearing that, but I haven't heard anyone say where they would prefer the line drawn and how that wouldn't just result in MVHS and WestPo having their farms portions flipped. I guess it's just easier to blame politicians than admit that entrenched poverty along Rt 1 means whatever high schools take those is going to be high poverty. Hayfield is exempt for whatever reason, so they get split between West Po and MVHS. If it makes you feel better, most of the new large low income buildings being built will be zoned to Bucknell and then Sanberg and WestPO. If you want to blame politicians, blame them for subsidizing building and granting variances in a way that concentrates poverty and lets large portions of the county (including those with metro access) remain unaffected

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Students don’t learn well in a school as big as West Potomac and there are areas near MV zoned to West Po.

Tell that to the families at Chantilly who are glad their kids go there. 2914 at last count. West Potomac: 2679

There are definitely people at Chantilly unhappy about the size of the school. Same at Centreville. But in these cases, unlike at West Potomac, there also wasn't really anywhere else for the kids to go.

That's easy to say. Kind of interesting that someone has such a finger on the pulse of Chantilly, Centreville, and West Potomac.

It's not unimportant to look at situations across the county, as opposed to just letting individual politicians like Corbett Sanders get what they want.

Well. I live in the Chantilly community. Honestly, no one i know complains about the size. There is something for everyone there. The kids find their niche. I will admit that graduation exercises get a little too long.

Another thing going on w/Chantilly is that the boundaries are fairly compact and people don't necessarily want to get bussed a long way to Westfield or Oakton, neither of which has much extra space anyway.

Kind of a different situation than West Po, where the boundaries aren't as compact, some areas are about the same distance to MV and West Po, and there's space at a nearby school.

We're a Carson/Oakton family and would MUCH rather our neighborhood be zoned to Chantilly. The neighborhood next door is zoned to Chantilly and it's so much closer. Also fewer entitled rich kids.

[Anonymous]

Towards the end of last night's meeting boundaries came up again as they discussed "right-sizing" schools that are overcrowded. Specifically mentioned Glasgow, LBSS, and Chantilly.

In Megan's words, "when we recognize there is overcrowding, the use of modulars is not a reason that we're fine and meanwhile we've got capacity in surrounding schools." But in the end they put the ball in Dr. Reid's court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Towards the end of last night's meeting boundaries came up again as they discussed "right-sizing" schools that are overcrowded. Specifically mentioned Glasgow, LBSS, and Chantilly.

In Megan's words, "when we recognize there is overcrowding, the use of modulars is not a reason that we're fine and meanwhile we've got capacity in surrounding schools." But in the end they put the ball in Dr. Reid's court.

They are mostly lame ducks just making noise now.

Ricardy Anderson is making a big stink about Glasgow because any time there is a boundary study elsewhere in the county she demands a boundary study in Mason. It was built to be a big school. But they can move AAP kids back to Holmes and Poe if they want - no doubt it’s a chaotic school.

Lake Braddock was by design built to be big. In percentage terms it’s not especially overcrowded.

Chantilly is a different situation, and they’ve neglected the overcrowding there for many years. Maybe the negligence of SB members like Pekarsky stands out less if they lump Chantilly together with other schools like Glasgow and LB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Towards the end of last night's meeting boundaries came up again as they discussed "right-sizing" schools that are overcrowded. Specifically mentioned Glasgow, LBSS, and Chantilly.

In Megan's words, "when we recognize there is overcrowding, the use of modulars is not a reason that we're fine and meanwhile we've got capacity in surrounding schools." But in the end they put the ball in Dr. Reid's court.

They are mostly lame ducks just making noise now.

Ricardy Anderson is making a big stink about Glasgow because any time there is a boundary study elsewhere in the county she demands a boundary study in Mason. It was built to be a big school. But they can move AAP kids back to Holmes and Poe if they want - no doubt it’s a chaotic school.

Lake Braddock was by design built to be big. In percentage terms it’s not especially overcrowded.

Chantilly is a different situation, and they’ve neglected the overcrowding there for many years. Maybe the negligence of SB members like Pekarsky stands out less if they lump Chantilly together with other schools like Glasgow and LB.

Once more, Chantilly parents are not complaining. The boundary is compact. Little new construction.

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Anonymous wrote:Towards the end of last night's meeting boundaries came up again as they discussed "right-sizing" schools that are overcrowded. Specifically mentioned Glasgow, LBSS, and Chantilly.

In Megan's words, "when we recognize there is overcrowding, the use of modulars is not a reason that we're fine and meanwhile we've got capacity in surrounding schools." But in the end they put the ball in Dr. Reid's court.

They are mostly lame ducks just making noise now.

Ricardy Anderson is making a big stink about Glasgow because any time there is a boundary study elsewhere in the county she demands a boundary study in Mason. It was built to be a big school. But they can move AAP kids back to Holmes and Poe if they want - no doubt it’s a chaotic school.

Lake Braddock was by design built to be big. In percentage terms it’s not especially overcrowded.

Chantilly is a different situation, and they’ve neglected the overcrowding there for many years. Maybe the negligence of SB members like Pekarsky stands out less if they lump Chantilly together with other schools like Glasgow and LB.

Once more, Chantilly parents are not complaining. The boundary is compact. Little new construction.

Since Chantilly parents say they aren’t complaining (that is, they don’t want to be moved to a less affluent school or one further away), let’s take them at their word. We can spend money elsewhere and relocate more trailers to Chantilly, if needed. There may be little new construction there but they’ll get more kids since fewer Rocky Run and Carson kids are getting into TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Towards the end of last night's meeting boundaries came up again as they discussed "right-sizing" schools that are overcrowded. Specifically mentioned Glasgow, LBSS, and Chantilly.

In Megan's words, "when we recognize there is overcrowding, the use of modulars is not a reason that we're fine and meanwhile we've got capacity in surrounding schools." But in the end they put the ball in Dr. Reid's court.

They are mostly lame ducks just making noise now.

Ricardy Anderson is making a big stink about Glasgow because any time there is a boundary study elsewhere in the county she demands a boundary study in Mason. It was built to be a big school. But they can move AAP kids back to Holmes and Poe if they want - no doubt it’s a chaotic school.

Lake Braddock was by design built to be big. In percentage terms it’s not especially overcrowded.

Chantilly is a different situation, and they’ve neglected the overcrowding there for many years. Maybe the negligence of SB members like Pekarsky stands out less if they lump Chantilly together with other schools like Glasgow and LB.

Once more, Chantilly parents are not complaining. The boundary is compact. Little new construction.

Yeah, the parents aren't complaining because they have their own motives for choosing Chantlly: it's a high-SES school on average and the high-SES kids there test well.

But there was a group of kids sometime last year, I believe, who showed up at a school board meeting and spoke about how overcrowded the halls are and they were pleading the Board for a solution. So what actually matters? The real-life experience of kids and the issues they want to be addressed, or the whims of parents?

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I’m surprised to hear that about LB. It’s a big school but never seemed over-crowded to me. Not sure what the solution is, as WSHS is always bordering on overenrolled, and Robinson is also big but not necessarily crowded. A few neighborhoods could maybe be cut loose to South County but I suspect the bus rides would be long, and that area of the county is seeing some building and development, so the new development combined with absorbing some of LB’s students could make for a situation where you just move the crowding from one building to another.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hunt Valley/Orange Hunt/WSHS thing would be easy. 1) cut off HV south of the parkway and send those kids to Newington Forest. That gets them out of the WSHS pyramid entirely since Newington Forest goes to South County. Which is probably about the same distance as WSHS for those kids.

2) change overcrowded OH boundaries to send some kids to now under capacity HV. The schools are physically quite close to one another so you have plenty of options. Also in that area, a not insignificant number of families would elect to stay at OH for the German immersion program so you could likely pick up a larger section of OH’s current boundaries than you might think.

3) if possible, fix the Rolling Valley split feeder and send all the kids to Irving/WSHS if there is still capacity at WSHS.

Now OH and HV aren’t bursting at the seams and we’ve even done a little to fix overenrollment at WSHS. And no one is getting bussed down the parkway to the other side of 95 to do it.

We're at RVES (Irving and WSHS) and it really stinks that Rolling Valley is a split feeder, because most years it's only about 10% of the class that goes to Key/Lee. I wish they would change it either way - either have those kids go to Irving/WSHS or change them to a different elementary school, like Saratoga, with more student who go to Key/Lee. But those few kids aren't really going to make a difference at either school.

How about fixing the Rolling Valley split feeder by sending the RV (split) students to Saratoga? They already go to Key and Lewis. Those split students will ride a bus to elementary school regardless if they are at RV or Saratoga. And Saratoga is close and has plenty of room. You can fix it at the lower level instead of the higher level.

Rolling valley inside the parkway should stay at WSHS.

They are within walking distance of WSHS.

They are the 2nd closet elementary after Cardinal Forest to WSHS.

No rezoning should involve moving any houses from walkable to a bus ride.

None of the kids zoned to RV, Key, and Lewis are within walking distance of West Springfield HS. At least not a practical day after day walk. That is the very south end of the RV boundary. Many probably don't even walk to RV. Sure, you could walk to WSHS, but no parent is going to let that happen every day.

I don't actually expect the county to rezone those kids to Saratoga, just pointing out there is another way to close the split feeder.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do close the split feeder by moving those RV kids to WSHS. And further reducing the catchment area for Lewis. Why would they stop screwing Lewis now?

All of the people zoned for Rolling Valley elementary between OKM and Rolling Rd inside the parkway can walk to WSHS. The Rolling Valley neighborhood is very close to WSHS.

Wait are you saying crossing OKM at rolling road on FOOT is a viable path to school? Ha!

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Anonymous wrote:The Hunt Valley/Orange Hunt/WSHS thing would be easy. 1) cut off HV south of the parkway and send those kids to Newington Forest. That gets them out of the WSHS pyramid entirely since Newington Forest goes to South County. Which is probably about the same distance as WSHS for those kids.

2) change overcrowded OH boundaries to send some kids to now under capacity HV. The schools are physically quite close to one another so you have plenty of options. Also in that area, a not insignificant number of families would elect to stay at OH for the German immersion program so you could likely pick up a larger section of OH’s current boundaries than you might think.

3) if possible, fix the Rolling Valley split feeder and send all the kids to Irving/WSHS if there is still capacity at WSHS.

Now OH and HV aren’t bursting at the seams and we’ve even done a little to fix overenrollment at WSHS. And no one is getting bussed down the parkway to the other side of 95 to do it.

We're at RVES (Irving and WSHS) and it really stinks that Rolling Valley is a split feeder, because most years it's only about 10% of the class that goes to Key/Lee. I wish they would change it either way - either have those kids go to Irving/WSHS or change them to a different elementary school, like Saratoga, with more student who go to Key/Lee. But those few kids aren't really going to make a difference at either school.

How about fixing the Rolling Valley split feeder by sending the RV (split) students to Saratoga? They already go to Key and Lewis. Those split students will ride a bus to elementary school regardless if they are at RV or Saratoga. And Saratoga is close and has plenty of room. You can fix it at the lower level instead of the higher level.

Rolling valley inside the parkway should stay at WSHS.

They are within walking distance of WSHS.

They are the 2nd closet elementary after Cardinal Forest to WSHS.

No rezoning should involve moving any houses from walkable to a bus ride.

None of the kids zoned to RV, Key, and Lewis are within walking distance of West Springfield HS. At least not a practical day after day walk. That is the very south end of the RV boundary. Many probably don't even walk to RV. Sure, you could walk to WSHS, but no parent is going to let that happen every day.

I don't actually expect the county to rezone those kids to Saratoga, just pointing out there is another way to close the split feeder.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do close the split feeder by moving those RV kids to WSHS. And further reducing the catchment area for Lewis. Why would they stop screwing Lewis now?

All of the people zoned for Rolling Valley elementary between OKM and Rolling Rd inside the parkway can walk to WSHS. The Rolling Valley neighborhood is very close to WSHS.

Wait are you saying crossing OKM at rolling road on FOOT is a viable path to school? Ha!

Rolling Rd. Between the parkway and Old Keene doesn’t even have a sidewalk on both sides. This is all crazy talk. No one’s walking from a neighborhood off Rolling closer to the parkway all the way up to WSHS.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised to hear that about LB. It’s a big school but never seemed over-crowded to me. Not sure what the solution is, as WSHS is always bordering on overenrolled, and Robinson is also big but not necessarily crowded. A few neighborhoods could maybe be cut loose to South County but I suspect the bus rides would be long, and that area of the county is seeing some building and development, so the new development combined with absorbing some of LB’s students could make for a situation where you just move the crowding from one building to another.

Lake Braddock isn’t overcrowded (it’s projected to be at 94% in 2027-28, excluding modulars) and if it were adding AAP to Robinson would take care of it overnight.

Both Robinson and Lake Braddock have huge physical plants and relative to other schools are not overcrowded.

It only gets mentioned to obscure the fact that there are other schools with far less capacity and more acute overcrowding that have been ignored for years. If they make the problem bigger, it becomes an excuse for their neglect.

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Anonymous wrote:The Hunt Valley/Orange Hunt/WSHS thing would be easy. 1) cut off HV south of the parkway and send those kids to Newington Forest. That gets them out of the WSHS pyramid entirely since Newington Forest goes to South County. Which is probably about the same distance as WSHS for those kids.

2) change overcrowded OH boundaries to send some kids to now under capacity HV. The schools are physically quite close to one another so you have plenty of options. Also in that area, a not insignificant number of families would elect to stay at OH for the German immersion program so you could likely pick up a larger section of OH’s current boundaries than you might think.

3) if possible, fix the Rolling Valley split feeder and send all the kids to Irving/WSHS if there is still capacity at WSHS.

Now OH and HV aren’t bursting at the seams and we’ve even done a little to fix overenrollment at WSHS. And no one is getting bussed down the parkway to the other side of 95 to do it.

We're at RVES (Irving and WSHS) and it really stinks that Rolling Valley is a split feeder, because most years it's only about 10% of the class that goes to Key/Lee. I wish they would change it either way - either have those kids go to Irving/WSHS or change them to a different elementary school, like Saratoga, with more student who go to Key/Lee. But those few kids aren't really going to make a difference at either school.

How about fixing the Rolling Valley split feeder by sending the RV (split) students to Saratoga? They already go to Key and Lewis. Those split students will ride a bus to elementary school regardless if they are at RV or Saratoga. And Saratoga is close and has plenty of room. You can fix it at the lower level instead of the higher level.

Rolling valley inside the parkway should stay at WSHS.

They are within walking distance of WSHS.

They are the 2nd closet elementary after Cardinal Forest to WSHS.

No rezoning should involve moving any houses from walkable to a bus ride.

None of the kids zoned to RV, Key, and Lewis are within walking distance of West Springfield HS. At least not a practical day after day walk. That is the very south end of the RV boundary. Many probably don't even walk to RV. Sure, you could walk to WSHS, but no parent is going to let that happen every day.

I don't actually expect the county to rezone those kids to Saratoga, just pointing out there is another way to close the split feeder.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do close the split feeder by moving those RV kids to WSHS. And further reducing the catchment area for Lewis. Why would they stop screwing Lewis now?

All of the people zoned for Rolling Valley elementary between OKM and Rolling Rd inside the parkway can walk to WSHS. The Rolling Valley neighborhood is very close to WSHS.

Wait are you saying crossing OKM at rolling road on FOOT is a viable path to school? Ha!

Yes.

There are sidewalks and a crosswalk with a stoplight.

Plus the kids zoned for Rolling Valley along Rolling Road can walk to WSHS without ever crossing Rolling Road.

After Cardinal Forest, RV and WS neighborhoods along Rolling are the closest and most walkable to WSHS.

High school kids walk that all the time. Have you ever even been to that area? You sound very unfamiliar with it, like you are just basing your arguments on google maps and no experience with the actual neighborhoods feeding into WSHS.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised to hear that about LB. It’s a big school but never seemed over-crowded to me. Not sure what the solution is, as WSHS is always bordering on overenrolled, and Robinson is also big but not necessarily crowded. A few neighborhoods could maybe be cut loose to South County but I suspect the bus rides would be long, and that area of the county is seeing some building and development, so the new development combined with absorbing some of LB’s students could make for a situation where you just move the crowding from one building to another.

Lake Braddock isn’t overcrowded (it’s projected to be at 94% in 2027-28, excluding modulars) and if it were adding AAP to Robinson would take care of it overnight.

Both Robinson and Lake Braddock have huge physical plants and relative to other schools are not overcrowded.

It only gets mentioned to obscure the fact that there are other schools with far less capacity and more acute overcrowding that have been ignored for years. If they make the problem bigger, it becomes an excuse for their neglect.

Very true. We have McLean falling apart and in trailers and West Potomac the size of a small city but no one wants to have a serious conversation about those.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Hunt Valley/Orange Hunt/WSHS thing would be easy. 1) cut off HV south of the parkway and send those kids to Newington Forest. That gets them out of the WSHS pyramid entirely since Newington Forest goes to South County. Which is probably about the same distance as WSHS for those kids.

2) change overcrowded OH boundaries to send some kids to now under capacity HV. The schools are physically quite close to one another so you have plenty of options. Also in that area, a not insignificant number of families would elect to stay at OH for the German immersion program so you could likely pick up a larger section of OH’s current boundaries than you might think.

3) if possible, fix the Rolling Valley split feeder and send all the kids to Irving/WSHS if there is still capacity at WSHS.

Now OH and HV aren’t bursting at the seams and we’ve even done a little to fix overenrollment at WSHS. And no one is getting bussed down the parkway to the other side of 95 to do it.

We're at RVES (Irving and WSHS) and it really stinks that Rolling Valley is a split feeder, because most years it's only about 10% of the class that goes to Key/Lee. I wish they would change it either way - either have those kids go to Irving/WSHS or change them to a different elementary school, like Saratoga, with more student who go to Key/Lee. But those few kids aren't really going to make a difference at either school.

How about fixing the Rolling Valley split feeder by sending the RV (split) students to Saratoga? They already go to Key and Lewis. Those split students will ride a bus to elementary school regardless if they are at RV or Saratoga. And Saratoga is close and has plenty of room. You can fix it at the lower level instead of the higher level.

Rolling valley inside the parkway should stay at WSHS.

They are within walking distance of WSHS.

They are the 2nd closet elementary after Cardinal Forest to WSHS.

No rezoning should involve moving any houses from walkable to a bus ride.

None of the kids zoned to RV, Key, and Lewis are within walking distance of West Springfield HS. At least not a practical day after day walk. That is the very south end of the RV boundary. Many probably don't even walk to RV. Sure, you could walk to WSHS, but no parent is going to let that happen every day.

I don't actually expect the county to rezone those kids to Saratoga, just pointing out there is another way to close the split feeder.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do close the split feeder by moving those RV kids to WSHS. And further reducing the catchment area for Lewis. Why would they stop screwing Lewis now?

All of the people zoned for Rolling Valley elementary between OKM and Rolling Rd inside the parkway can walk to WSHS. The Rolling Valley neighborhood is very close to WSHS.

Wait are you saying crossing OKM at rolling road on FOOT is a viable path to school? Ha!

Yes.

There are sidewalks and a crosswalk with a stoplight.

Plus the kids zoned for Rolling Valley along Rolling Road can walk to WSHS without ever crossing Rolling Road.

After Cardinal Forest, RV and WS neighborhoods along Rolling are the closest and most walkable to WSHS.

High school kids walk that all the time. Have you ever even been to that area? You sound very unfamiliar with it, like you are just basing your arguments on google maps and no experience with the actual neighborhoods feeding into WSHS.

HA! No I don’t, I sound more familiar with that intersection than you do.
Nope, wouldn’t want my kids walking across OKM/rolling road intersection. You aren’t talking about a few kids here and there. We are talking about a bunch of kids walking home from WSHS at the same time crossing OKM while other kids are driving home from WSHS. That intersection is a mess anyway and they decided not to add bike lanes when they redid the intersection.
I would much rather my kid cross rolling road than OKM. Hope you make your kids walk to get you your duck donut and Whole Foods order daily!

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Anonymous wrote:The Hunt Valley/Orange Hunt/WSHS thing would be easy. 1) cut off HV south of the parkway and send those kids to Newington Forest. That gets them out of the WSHS pyramid entirely since Newington Forest goes to South County. Which is probably about the same distance as WSHS for those kids.

2) change overcrowded OH boundaries to send some kids to now under capacity HV. The schools are physically quite close to one another so you have plenty of options. Also in that area, a not insignificant number of families would elect to stay at OH for the German immersion program so you could likely pick up a larger section of OH’s current boundaries than you might think.

3) if possible, fix the Rolling Valley split feeder and send all the kids to Irving/WSHS if there is still capacity at WSHS.

Now OH and HV aren’t bursting at the seams and we’ve even done a little to fix overenrollment at WSHS. And no one is getting bussed down the parkway to the other side of 95 to do it.

We're at RVES (Irving and WSHS) and it really stinks that Rolling Valley is a split feeder, because most years it's only about 10% of the class that goes to Key/Lee. I wish they would change it either way - either have those kids go to Irving/WSHS or change them to a different elementary school, like Saratoga, with more student who go to Key/Lee. But those few kids aren't really going to make a difference at either school.

How about fixing the Rolling Valley split feeder by sending the RV (split) students to Saratoga? They already go to Key and Lewis. Those split students will ride a bus to elementary school regardless if they are at RV or Saratoga. And Saratoga is close and has plenty of room. You can fix it at the lower level instead of the higher level.

Rolling valley inside the parkway should stay at WSHS.

They are within walking distance of WSHS.

They are the 2nd closet elementary after Cardinal Forest to WSHS.

No rezoning should involve moving any houses from walkable to a bus ride.

None of the kids zoned to RV, Key, and Lewis are within walking distance of West Springfield HS. At least not a practical day after day walk. That is the very south end of the RV boundary. Many probably don't even walk to RV. Sure, you could walk to WSHS, but no parent is going to let that happen every day.

I don't actually expect the county to rezone those kids to Saratoga, just pointing out there is another way to close the split feeder.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do close the split feeder by moving those RV kids to WSHS. And further reducing the catchment area for Lewis. Why would they stop screwing Lewis now?

All of the people zoned for Rolling Valley elementary between OKM and Rolling Rd inside the parkway can walk to WSHS. The Rolling Valley neighborhood is very close to WSHS.

Wait are you saying crossing OKM at rolling road on FOOT is a viable path to school? Ha!

Yes.

There are sidewalks and a crosswalk with a stoplight.

Plus the kids zoned for Rolling Valley along Rolling Road can walk to WSHS without ever crossing Rolling Road.

After Cardinal Forest, RV and WS neighborhoods along Rolling are the closest and most walkable to WSHS.

High school kids walk that all the time. Have you ever even been to that area? You sound very unfamiliar with it, like you are just basing your arguments on google maps and no experience with the actual neighborhoods feeding into WSHS.

HA! No I don’t, I sound more familiar with that intersection than you do.
Nope, wouldn’t want my kids walking across OKM/rolling road intersection. You aren’t talking about a few kids here and there. We are talking about a bunch of kids walking home from WSHS at the same time crossing OKM while other kids are driving home from WSHS. That intersection is a mess anyway and they decided not to add bike lanes when they redid the intersection.
I would much rather my kid cross rolling road than OKM. Hope you make your kids walk to get you your duck donut and Whole Foods order daily!

Kids walk across that intersection every day going to and from school. Big groups of kids.

You obviously have not been in that area when WSHS and Irving get out for the day.