This is getting ridiculous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:meanwhile, my student who isn't an athlete who went TO to T50 schools has all admissions including his reach schools. I'm just as confused as those who were deferred or declined because I had prepped him for being rejected from his reach schools.
White male. 3.5 GPA non-weighted. No hooks. I didn't even go to college myself.

I have no answers.

If your DH also did not go to college, being a first gen college student is in fact a hook. That said, you and/or your son may be very good at picking colleges that are a good fit and explaining why. Would be interested in knowing major/interests and which schools. Are you referring to top 50 national universities or LACs? That also is very different.

In any event, congratulations to your son, well done.

[Anonymous]

meanwhile, my student who isn't an athlete who went TO to T50 schools has all admissions including his reach schools. I'm just as confused as those who were deferred or declined because I had prepped him for being rejected from his reach schools.
White male. 3.5 GPA non-weighted. No hooks. I didn't even go to college myself.

I have no answers.

Is your son first gen to go to college? That would be a hook in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

meanwhile, my student who isn't an athlete who went TO to T50 schools has all admissions including his reach schools. I'm just as confused as those who were deferred or declined because I had prepped him for being rejected from his reach schools.
White male. 3.5 GPA non-weighted. No hooks. I didn't even go to college myself.

I have no answers.

Is your son first gen to go to college? That would be a hook in admissions.

Not if the other parent did. It’s also not clear whether “first gen” includes associates degrees or parents starting but not finishing at 4-year schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent of Class of 2022 HS grad here — kid is CS major and admitted to 2 of the top 3 universities. I know most people do not listen to free advice, but for the ones who do, here it is….Focus your perfect stats kids HS years and application on two things. (1) What has your kid done to help others in their community? (2) How will they use the elite school education to help others in their community. It’s not about the perfect stats or the awards, although those help. It’s NOT about how well the essays are written — it’s about the HS experience affecting your kid in some way that they ended up genuinely helping others (not racking up hours at a food pantry), and what are they going to do beyond getting a good job that will change the world for the better?? Without the desire and evidence of having a positive impact on their community, my kid would have been at a safety school (which is really not as bad as some make it out to be!) Oh and leadership “titles” do not count as much as actual leadership — can your kid lead others without a formal title? I’m not saying that being President of a club is bad, just that the kid needs to do something after they get the title….or do lead others without a title. Make sure to have documentation — news articles etc.

Or “When others zig, your kid should zag.” Do something different. For CS, do not do robotics or build apps that no one uses. I cannot say what my kid did without doxxing, but this is also important. Why should a college pick your perfect stats kid who was President of their Robotics Club over the 100’s of other similar kids? What sets them apart?

I hope that makes sense!

Can you give some examples ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:meanwhile, my student who isn't an athlete who went TO to T50 schools has all admissions including his reach schools. I'm just as confused as those who were deferred or declined because I had prepped him for being rejected from his reach schools.
White male. 3.5 GPA non-weighted. No hooks. I didn't even go to college myself.

I have no answers.

If your DH also did not go to college, being a first gen college student is in fact a hook. That said, you and/or your son may be very good at picking colleges that are a good fit and explaining why. Would be interested in knowing major/interests and which schools. Are you referring to top 50 national universities or LACs? That also is very different.

In any event, congratulations to your son, well done.

My husband did graduate from college so not a hook. Bucknell, F&M, Colby and Middlebury for Environment Studies. Safeties were Eckerd, UNE and High Point.

I'm super proud of him. He has always volunteered with Chesapeake Bay Foundation and is genuinely interested in environmental science.

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Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

I would choose Data Science as a major if I went back to college. Of course, my child is an art major

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

I was thinking about the pre-technology trades wondering if they are the only ones that have job security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

And obviously, the CS people actually designing the AI will have their jobs secure...until AI becomes aware and kills us all of course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

I would choose Data Science as a major if I went back to college. Of course, my child is an art major

As someone who has done data science before data science was a term, it does get old and doing it for decades is not enticing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think 400 year old colleges know who they should admit.

+1 How do these whiners think Harvard got where it is?

400 years of white male privilege, and legacies by keeping it in the family. And on the backs of slaves.

You know people like Mitch McConnell was able to go to Harvard because of the indirect privilege he got from his slave owning ancestors who had the wealth and power to get their kids to Harvard. Then BAM... legacy is born.

Uh, Mitch McConnell went to University of KY and Univ. of Louisville for his education. Two average state schools by anyone’s standard and very down market for DCUM. Just saying’…. If you are going to throw out names, use a better/more accurate example for your white male privilege reference. The ugly race fighting on this board (in all directions) is sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

I would choose Data Science as a major if I went back to college. Of course, my child is an art major

As someone who has done data science before data science was a term, it does get old and doing it for decades is not enticing.

WTH does enticing have to do with any of this. Is CS "enticing". Is grinding away in a law office enticing? Is having to work all day with a bunch of investment banker a**holes enticing?

If you read dcum college threads one thing and only one thing matters...a high enough pay check. So do your data science or your coding or your banking and be quiet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

I would choose Data Science as a major if I went back to college. Of course, my child is an art major

As someone who has done data science before data science was a term, it does get old and doing it for decades is not enticing.

WTH does enticing have to do with any of this. Is CS "enticing". Is grinding away in a law office enticing? Is having to work all day with a bunch of investment banker a**holes enticing?

If you read dcum college threads one thing and only one thing matters...a high enough pay check. So do your data science or your coding or your banking and be quiet.

Okay, Ms. Crankypants.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CS won't be the lucrative major it is within 5-10 years. ChatGPT can write and repair computer code on command -- within five seconds. No one is talking about it yet. CS jobs are in for a massive upheaval. It isn't the field it was 15 years ago. It isn't a safe job field anymore.

I don't know why you focus on CS. Actually, there are a ton of professional jobs impacted by Chat GPT and Generative AI. From a report just released:

"Researchers from OpenAI and the University of Pennsylvania argued in a new research paper that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT. The study found that mathematicians, interpreters, accountants, legal secretaries, writers and authors are some of the jobs to have the highest levels of exposure.

At the other end of the spectrum, more low-paying jobs like rail maintenance workers, cooks, mechanics, floor-layers, meat-packers and stonemasons had no exposure."

I would choose Data Science as a major if I went back to college. Of course, my child is an art major

As someone who has done data science before data science was a term, it does get old and doing it for decades is not enticing.

WTH does enticing have to do with any of this. Is CS "enticing". Is grinding away in a law office enticing? Is having to work all day with a bunch of investment banker a**holes enticing?

If you read dcum college threads one thing and only one thing matters...a high enough pay check. So do your data science or your coding or your banking and be quiet.

What’s wrong with IBers? They’re mostly very passionate about their work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apply to liberal arts schools as a CS major - many don’t limit number of majors.

DS was rejected from every SLAC but one as a CS major. I think they know they really can't offer what these kids need compared to the engineering schools and big CS names, so assume they won't accept. But then they don't get into those school either.