Sidwell Friends ED results amazing this year

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Well, it's just sh%^ty to get a Yale acceptance and then continue to apply to Ivies. It's common knowledge that your greatest competition is other kids from your own high school.
A common max number of Ivy spots given to any one DC school in recent years has often 2 or even 1. Gone are the days (if it's even true) of 11 Yale spots.
I'm sure the kid with the Yale acceptance had MANY friends/classmates who were sitting on zero decent acceptances prior to regular decision. But screw these kids--- they went ahead and tossed
in their highly competitive application regardless of what it would mean for to their classmates.

I get that this didn't break any legal rule but you won't convince me (or most other decent humans) that it wasn't crappy and low.

I am definitely a decent human and do not believe there is anything "unethical" about a kid being accepted to any Ivy REA and then choosing to submit other applications. REA is specifically NOT BINDING, and an 18 year old kid is very entitled to be unsure of what they want or change their mind over the course of their senior year. This idea that there is a max number of spots allocated to any school is false - and even when asked to cite any source for this, you have not. I am the PP that knows for a fact that 11 kids from the Sidwell class of 2015 went to Yale. Yes, this was pre-covid and the admissions landscape has certainly changed, but that does not mean there are school quotas that were just reduced to "2 or even 1." For example, five boys from STA were admitted to Yale in 2022 - is this recent enough for you to acknowledge your quota claims are ridiculous?

It is possible 10 STA kids applied to Yale were all qualified. But Yale could not accept all 10. Your example is not convincing. BTW, you did not cite evidence that you are “definitely a decent human.” See the flaw in your argument?

Correct. There are more than 5 STA kids who applied and I know the class--several who were rejected were equally qualified.
Elite colleges clearly have a limit to how many kids they'll take from one high school. If kid A tosses away a top spot it hurts Kid B. Those of you saying it doesn't are being purposefully obtuse.

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Anonymous wrote:How can Sidwell's college admissions with their legacies, URMs and athletes have a worse outcome than a public high school like TJ?

TJ is still a crapshoot, trust me. Every year they have 150+ kids apply to each of Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton, UPenn, Duke, Columbia. Each of those schools will send out at most 15 acceptances, many of which are for the same top kids getting into multiple of these schools. At least Sidwell has more structure and organization among their counseling that doesn’t lead to a free-for-all.

This is a great point and it mirrors my own HS experience. There were a few kids that got all of the awards and collected multiple Ivy acceptances and then a drop off with everyone else going to state schools.

Sidwell is trying to maximize chances for all students, which is very different than having fewer students with more exceptional outcomes.

ED helps with this a bit. Can only ED to one school

REA will not. A kid last year accepted into Yale REA, and then applied Harvard RD and accepted, thus wasted the Yale spot. If Harvard is your first choice, apply Harvard REA. The Yale REA spot could go to another student at the same school. A highly selective college only takes a limited number of students from the same high school. The student’s strategy is getting into relatively easier Yale first. Playing this kind of game is truly unethical!

It could have been a toss up between Yale and Harvard and then by the time RD acceptance came around, they liked Boston better than New Haven. Not unethical at all.

If both Yale and Harvard acceptances are RD, your argument makes sense. But Yale acceptance came out in December before the student applied to Harvard RD.

REA applications are NOT binding and there is NOTHING from any of these schools to indicate they expect you to choose them if they accept you.

Well, it's just sh%^ty to get a Yale acceptance and then continue to apply to Ivies. It's common knowledge that your greatest competition is other kids from your own high school.
A common max number of Ivy spots given to any one DC school in recent years has often 2 or even 1. Gone are the days (if it's even true) of 11 Yale spots.
I'm sure the kid with the Yale acceptance had MANY friends/classmates who were sitting on zero decent acceptances prior to regular decision. But screw these kids--- they went ahead and tossed
in their highly competitive application regardless of what it would mean for to their classmates.

I get that this didn't break any legal rule but you won't convince me (or most other decent humans) that it wasn't crappy and low.

Just curious, do you have kids a SFS?

No, at another Big3. So far straight As through first quarter of junior year. I guess if the private school community is about every man for him/herself we can play that game too. I hope those of you encouraging this behavior have kids with
very top grades.

So why are you bothering with this thread? I don’t have a kid there either, but am curious why someone would get so emotional over something that doesn’t affect them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Well, it's just sh%^ty to get a Yale acceptance and then continue to apply to Ivies. It's common knowledge that your greatest competition is other kids from your own high school.
A common max number of Ivy spots given to any one DC school in recent years has often 2 or even 1. Gone are the days (if it's even true) of 11 Yale spots.
I'm sure the kid with the Yale acceptance had MANY friends/classmates who were sitting on zero decent acceptances prior to regular decision. But screw these kids--- they went ahead and tossed
in their highly competitive application regardless of what it would mean for to their classmates.

I get that this didn't break any legal rule but you won't convince me (or most other decent humans) that it wasn't crappy and low.

I am definitely a decent human and do not believe there is anything "unethical" about a kid being accepted to any Ivy REA and then choosing to submit other applications. REA is specifically NOT BINDING, and an 18 year old kid is very entitled to be unsure of what they want or change their mind over the course of their senior year. This idea that there is a max number of spots allocated to any school is false - and even when asked to cite any source for this, you have not. I am the PP that knows for a fact that 11 kids from the Sidwell class of 2015 went to Yale. Yes, this was pre-covid and the admissions landscape has certainly changed, but that does not mean there are school quotas that were just reduced to "2 or even 1." For example, five boys from STA were admitted to Yale in 2022 - is this recent enough for you to acknowledge your quota claims are ridiculous?

It is possible 10 STA kids applied to Yale were all qualified. But Yale could not accept all 10. Your example is not convincing. BTW, you did not cite evidence that you are “definitely a decent human.” See the flaw in your argument?

Correct. There are more than 5 STA kids who applied and I know the class--several who were rejected were equally qualified.
Elite colleges clearly have a limit to how many kids they'll take from one high school. If kid A tosses away a top spot it hurts Kid B. Those of you saying it doesn't are being purposefully obtuse.

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Well, apparently, Yale didn’t agree that they were equally qualified since they were not admitted. If kid A tosses away a top spot, that does not mean that kid B from the same school will get that spot even if you think they should. Kid C from another HS may be less qualified than kid A but better qualified than kid B. You seem to think that Yale holds a certain number of spots for Sidwell or STA or wherever and kid A need only step aside for kid B to get the spot. It’s not kid A’s responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:

Well, it's just sh%^ty to get a Yale acceptance and then continue to apply to Ivies. It's common knowledge that your greatest competition is other kids from your own high school.
A common max number of Ivy spots given to any one DC school in recent years has often 2 or even 1. Gone are the days (if it's even true) of 11 Yale spots.
I'm sure the kid with the Yale acceptance had MANY friends/classmates who were sitting on zero decent acceptances prior to regular decision. But screw these kids--- they went ahead and tossed
in their highly competitive application regardless of what it would mean for to their classmates.

I get that this didn't break any legal rule but you won't convince me (or most other decent humans) that it wasn't crappy and low.

I am definitely a decent human and do not believe there is anything "unethical" about a kid being accepted to any Ivy REA and then choosing to submit other applications. REA is specifically NOT BINDING, and an 18 year old kid is very entitled to be unsure of what they want or change their mind over the course of their senior year. This idea that there is a max number of spots allocated to any school is false - and even when asked to cite any source for this, you have not. I am the PP that knows for a fact that 11 kids from the Sidwell class of 2015 went to Yale. Yes, this was pre-covid and the admissions landscape has certainly changed, but that does not mean there are school quotas that were just reduced to "2 or even 1." For example, five boys from STA were admitted to Yale in 2022 - is this recent enough for you to acknowledge your quota claims are ridiculous?

It is possible 10 STA kids applied to Yale were all qualified. But Yale could not accept all 10. Your example is not convincing. BTW, you did not cite evidence that you are “definitely a decent human.” See the flaw in your argument?

Do you see the flaw in yours? Maybe the 5 in 2022 were more than 2021 or 2020. in that case, would you have been arguing that 3 was the maximum number?

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell: https://www.instagram.com/sidwellseniors2023/
GDS: https://www.instagram.com/gdsseniors23/
Holton: https://www.instagram.com/holtonarms2023/?hl=en
Landon: https://www.instagram.com/landonseniors23/?hl=en

Amazing?

These lists are good but essentially similar to the Baltimore private schools my kids attend. We don’t have celebrities, but do have athletic commits and legacies.

Holton Arms has three going to UM. Pretty good. But I wonder how many of those are legacies.

I looked at these lists and my takeaway is that they are expensive schools with parents who can afford full pay, which is a big hook. At my kid's poorer school, people got into expensive schools yet didn't get enough FA or merit aid to pay the tuition so they opted for less expensive schools like UMD. UMD and other public schools will be happy to have these 4.0+ students who are building airplanes in their spare time. lol