Middle Schools for Cap Hill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ah, this explains why Latin is offering math up to two years ahead of grade level to their top middle school math students, and why BASIS, which has offered 6th grade algebra all along, has a waiting list of more than 200 names.

What happening in cities around the country is that more kids are being "super accelerated" as time they goes. I see this at our DCPS elementary school - children of NASA scientists ready for 5th grade math in 3rd grade because they've been working ahead on Khan Academy, Saxon Learning IXL or whatever programs. Schools, both public and private, struggle to deal with bored kids who aren't remotely challenged, leading to more flexibility in learning, particularly for math.

BASIS teaches algebra in 7th grade, though this year there are a total of four 6th graders who were allowed to place into algebra (i.e., such acceleration is pretty rare).

DC took 7th grade Algebra at Stuart Hobson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

This person chimes in on every SH thread to talk about what they see from their house "across the street" and what they "know" about SH...from 12 years ago. I have no horse in this race but as a frequent reader of DCUM I would admonish you to completely ignore this poster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

I didn't know this. I just looked at the data myself and you are correct. Wow. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

This person chimes in on every SH thread to talk about what they see from their house "across the street" and what they "know" about SH...from 12 years ago. I have no horse in this race but as a frequent reader of DCUM I would admonish you to completely ignore this poster.

I've been verbally harassed by groups of SH students hanging around the building before or after school multiple times this freagin spring.

I don't live across the street but walk by the school on my way to Union Station on weekdays.

I've gone into the building to complain.

I have neighborhood friends who've done the same.

Nothing changes.

Denial only gets you so far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

This person chimes in on every SH thread to talk about what they see from their house "across the street" and what they "know" about SH...from 12 years ago. I have no horse in this race but as a frequent reader of DCUM I would admonish you to completely ignore this poster.

I've been verbally harassed by groups of SH students hanging around the building before or after school multiple times this freagin spring.

I don't live across the street but walk by the school on my way to Union Station on weekdays.

I've gone into the building to complain.

I have neighborhood friends who've done the same.

Nothing changes.

Denial only gets you so far.

Yes, WE KNOW! They were mean to you. They are middle schoolers. Have you ever been near any other middle schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

This person chimes in on every SH thread to talk about what they see from their house "across the street" and what they "know" about SH...from 12 years ago. I have no horse in this race but as a frequent reader of DCUM I would admonish you to completely ignore this poster.

I've been verbally harassed by groups of SH students hanging around the building before or after school multiple times this freagin spring.

I don't live across the street but walk by the school on my way to Union Station on weekdays.

I've gone into the building to complain.

I have neighborhood friends who've done the same.

Nothing changes.

Denial only gets you so far.

Yes, WE KNOW! They were mean to you. They are middle schoolers. Have you ever been near any other middle schools?

For real! My friends and I did the same as MSers so when it happens to me=karma!

[Anonymous]

Yea, a whole bunch of kids in school uniforms shrieking at, and cussing out, passers by on a regular basis. Nothing wrong with that. Any wonder that there are still more students from Wards 5,7 and 8 at Hobson than Ward 6? Most Hill families around Stanton Park want nothing to do with the school, all good, right?

[Anonymous]

cant help but lol at the person yelling "git off my lawn" at no good punk kids via a parents internet forum

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

This person chimes in on every SH thread to talk about what they see from their house "across the street" and what they "know" about SH...from 12 years ago. I have no horse in this race but as a frequent reader of DCUM I would admonish you to completely ignore this poster.

I've been verbally harassed by groups of SH students hanging around the building before or after school multiple times this freagin spring.

I don't live across the street but walk by the school on my way to Union Station on weekdays.

I've gone into the building to complain.

I have neighborhood friends who've done the same.

Nothing changes.

Denial only gets you so far.

Yes, WE KNOW! They were mean to you. They are middle schoolers. Have you ever been near any other middle schools?

Yes and they’re not as trashy?

[Anonymous]

NP. We tried Stuart Hobson for our outgoing in-boundary 6th grader this school year but won't return in the fall.

Our daughter was bullied by several peers for months. They stocked her, stole her phone, punched her in the back in hallways and taunted her at recess. The administration could have cared less.

PPs who mock other parents who complain about weak discipline at Hobson are ass#!%s. The problem is real, at least it was for us.

Signed,
NE Parent who Can't Wait to Be Done with SH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yea, a whole bunch of kids in school uniforms shrieking at, and cussing out, passers by on a regular basis. Nothing wrong with that. Any wonder that there are still more students from Wards 5,7 and 8 at Hobson than Ward 6? Most Hill families around Stanton Park want nothing to do with the school, all good, right?

That’s because the Hill families move. Who lives on the Hill with teens, unless you really want them making hour commutes to decent schools everyday???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yea, a whole bunch of kids in school uniforms shrieking at, and cussing out, passers by on a regular basis. Nothing wrong with that. Any wonder that there are still more students from Wards 5,7 and 8 at Hobson than Ward 6? Most Hill families around Stanton Park want nothing to do with the school, all good, right?

That’s because the Hill families move. Who lives on the Hill with teens, unless you really want them making hour commutes to decent schools everyday???

Hahahha. The Hill is LOUSY with teens. I always can tell the people who actually belong in their cars at the mall in the suburbs when they start complaining about middle/high school kids needing to travel to school. Compared to most cities, DC is small and well-served by public transportation. There is also a good network of bike lanes. The pre-teens/teens are all good getting to school with their friends this way. It happens in NYC, San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, New Orleans, Minneapolis etc etc. Don’t know many urban teens who DON’T commute to school. At least they aren’t in cars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:is it worth changing from a jefferson feeder to a hobson feeder? distance is about the same.

I'm sure you will hear from Jefferson boosters on here... but if you care about the size of the cohort of high performing kids & the size of the cohort of truly low performing kids, SH is a no brainer. ELA is where the huge difference is and that's the skill that's more transferable to the non-tracked classes like science & social studies. SH has 6% of kids getting 1s on PARCC... Jefferson has 26%. So, in one setting, your kid's class might have 1 or 2 kids *way* below grade level (illiterate or close to it, if we're being honest); in the other, it's fully 1/4th of the class. On the flip side, SH has over 50% of kids at grade level for ELA, so even the non-tracked classes are majority kids who have the tools to do the work; at Jefferson, it's just over 1/3.

OK, but the reality is that Stuart Hobson's leadership is half as good at that of Jefferson Academy. Too many disciplines problems at Hobson, year after year after year. There is too much outright bullying with the administration claiming otherwise, too many brawls outside the building, too many visits by police squad cars to break up playground fights.

I've lived right across the street from the school for almost 20 years. I lotteried my kids into Brent to avoid Watkins and won't send them to Hobson. I'd rather move.

This across-the-street neighbor posts every time there is a discussion about Stuart-Hobson with the same message, essentially word for word.