FCPS CRT or nah?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

We don’t like the source because it’s not reliable and has a crazy bias.

Straight up propaganda.

Hard pass.

So, you only want to read one side. Got it.

“One side”?

No, I read news from credible sources. I avoid propaganda crap like Daily Wire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would estimate 80-90% of people who post here did not vote for Youngkin, but this lesson is why Youngkin won. If the Democrats stick to defending these lessons and say “CRT” is not in schools because they’re pedants about what CRT is, then the red wave will break records. This lesson is offensive. This lesson has nothing to do with English class. But, I hope Democrats cling to this - the seismic shift from Democrat to Republican will just continue.

I didn't vote for Youngkin (or Trump) and haven't voted R for a top level position for probably a decade or more, but you can bet I did and will vote for every 'R' down the rest of the ticket exactly because of this and the other equity crap being pushed right now - specifically the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative to get rid of advanced math classes because "equity."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What are biracial kids going to do? Are we white now? Do we check the box?

That depends.

What’s the texture of your hair?

Skin tone?

Can you pass?

Parents still married?

Accepted by white grandparents?

Is there inheritance?

Is your dad the white one?

Do you have his last name?


Of course, if your biracial ness is white/Asian you don’t have to answer any previous questions. Asians are “white adjacent” now so being both just makes you white and therefore privileged and you ought to be ashamed.

This is the biggest piece of the anti - CRT playbook. Telling people that CRT exists to shame people. You were so close to getting it right that it is about acknowledging privilege. Nobody is asking white people to feel shame, but to simply acknowledge that it is GENERALLY easier to live life as a white person in America, and then shares evidence of why that is.

You, on the other hand, should probably be ashamed of your simplistic dismissal of an important topic.

Why? Why is this important? What purpose does doing this have?
And, is this something that should be done in an English class when we have a pretty miserable record of achievement when compared to other countries?

We don’t know the details of the assignment. Only this one page.

The assignment could have been asking students to examine their own perspective before reading or discussing characters in a book. Maybe the book had characters in the military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would estimate 80-90% of people who post here did not vote for Youngkin, but this lesson is why Youngkin won. If the Democrats stick to defending these lessons and say “CRT” is not in schools because they’re pedants about what CRT is, then the red wave will break records. This lesson is offensive. This lesson has nothing to do with English class. But, I hope Democrats cling to this - the seismic shift from Democrat to Republican will just continue.

I didn't vote for Youngkin (or Trump) and haven't voted R for a top level position for probably a decade or more, but you can bet I did and will vote for every 'R' down the rest of the ticket exactly because of this and the other equity crap being pushed right now - specifically the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative to get rid of advanced math classes because "equity."

VMPI is dead.

And they pulled detracking almost a year ago, so…it seems like you have misplaced anger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on food stamps, donated clothes, and remember only getting name brand foods when the Lions Club gave us groceries during the holidays. Half the items on that bingo card applied to my childhood. But because I'm white I'm privileged? Maybe I can claim being racially profiled now too.

This crap right here is how republicans still win anything.

It’s not all or nothing. Most people experience a mix of different factors. I had probably 2/3rd of the boxes.

It’s also not saying that privilege is universally true. No one has said all white people have it super easy.

In general, it’s easier to be white.
In general, it’s easier to be rich.
In general, it’s easier to be able-bodied.

That’s what “privilege” is.

And no one EVER knew the bolded before people wrote articles and books and fcps paid for bingo games to teach that, so they’ve really got bragging rights for educational effectiveness here.

If you have taken the time to read through the thread, there are a lot of people who do not know the bolded.

So? Why is it necessary for people to know the bolded?

Understanding different perspectives can help us understand different characters in books.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

Tyson's statement said it was an "approved FCPS English curriculum lesson." That means that it was not developed by a teacher, but by the Instructional Services Dept. I don't know who leads the English Dept., but Noel Klimenko leads Instructional Services. Somebody in Instructional Services, or a teacher hired by IS created this.

[Anonymous]

Does FCPS really think that parents do not teach their kids these types of things? How do you develop empathy in an English class? How about reading a book-and there are plenty--that illustrates struggles that people go through to succeed: loss of a parent; hunger; homelessness; etc. No need to personalize it. Seems to me that would be more appropriate in an English class--and it doesn't need to address grievance politics.

History? Slavery and Jim Crow are covered--and you don't need to have CRT to do it. They have been taught for many, many years--and it does not need to be personalized as many wish it today.

I was a teacher. I haven't taught in years--but I suspect I know what happened with the "underground railroad" game in Loudoun. Teachers were likely told that they ALL (including PE teachers) has to teach these concepts. I'm betting that's why they came up with such an inappropriate "game." Administrators come up with requirements without considering that it may not work with all classes.
What would be a better requirement? Just be sure all kids are included in activities. Be sure all kids are respectful of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up on food stamps, donated clothes, and remember only getting name brand foods when the Lions Club gave us groceries during the holidays. Half the items on that bingo card applied to my childhood. But because I'm white I'm privileged? Maybe I can claim being racially profiled now too.

This crap right here is how republicans still win anything.

It’s not all or nothing. Most people experience a mix of different factors. I had probably 2/3rd of the boxes.

It’s also not saying that privilege is universally true. No one has said all white people have it super easy.

In general, it’s easier to be white.
In general, it’s easier to be rich.
In general, it’s easier to be able-bodied.

That’s what “privilege” is.

And no one EVER knew the bolded before people wrote articles and books and fcps paid for bingo games to teach that, so they’ve really got bragging rights for educational effectiveness here.

If you have taken the time to read through the thread, there are a lot of people who do not know the bolded.

So? Why is it necessary for people to know the bolded?

Understanding different perspectives can help us understand different characters in books.

There are many ways to teach perspectives without stooping to "privilege." This is a lame response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

We don’t like the source because it’s not reliable and has a crazy bias.

Straight up propaganda.

Hard pass.

So, you only want to read one side. Got it.

It's how they stay in their bubble. The Washington Post has a crazy bias as well. Hannah Natanson, who covers education in NoVa for the Post, is anything but objective. Her failure to cover the Pekarsky/Omeish texts is but one glaring example.

If you want to find out what's really going on you have to consult multiple sources, each of which may be singing to their own choir.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

We don’t like the source because it’s not reliable and has a crazy bias.

Straight up propaganda.

Hard pass.

Is there anything factually incorrect in that link from the daily wire or sensationalistic asides from the link at the bottom of the screen?

It's mostly the same quotes readily found from other politicians or FCPS employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would estimate 80-90% of people who post here did not vote for Youngkin, but this lesson is why Youngkin won. If the Democrats stick to defending these lessons and say “CRT” is not in schools because they’re pedants about what CRT is, then the red wave will break records. This lesson is offensive. This lesson has nothing to do with English class. But, I hope Democrats cling to this - the seismic shift from Democrat to Republican will just continue.

I didn't vote for Youngkin (or Trump) and haven't voted R for a top level position for probably a decade or more, but you can bet I did and will vote for every 'R' down the rest of the ticket exactly because of this and the other equity crap being pushed right now - specifically the Virginia Math Pathways Initiative to get rid of advanced math classes because "equity."

Awww, you poor thing. God forbid some other child has the same advantages as yours.

If you want special treatment for your advanced kid, get a tutor. Lots of parents do this. Public school is for the collective, not your individual kid. If you're relying on only the schools to get your desired outcome or path for your kid, then you're failing as a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

Tyson's statement said it was an "approved FCPS English curriculum lesson." That means that it was not developed by a teacher, but by the Instructional Services Dept. I don't know who leads the English Dept., but Noel Klimenko leads Instructional Services. Somebody in Instructional Services, or a teacher hired by IS created this.

When I saw Privilege Bingo, I thought it was designed for elementary school kids. The idea that someone at Gatehouse would foist this nonsense on high school English teachers, when they could be assigning books to students that would teach them about empathy in a more nuanced way, is seriously depressing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

We don’t like the source because it’s not reliable and has a crazy bias.

Straight up propaganda.

Hard pass.

Is there anything factually incorrect in that link from the daily wire or sensationalistic asides from the link at the bottom of the screen?

It's mostly the same quotes readily found from other politicians or FCPS employees.

What's funny is that the only way she found out about this is from DCUM. Says a lot about her sources. (Of course, I think this is how I found out about it.) Sad that WAPO is not reporting on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What are biracial kids going to do? Are we white now? Do we check the box?

That depends.

What’s the texture of your hair?

Skin tone?

Can you pass?

Parents still married?

Accepted by white grandparents?

Is there inheritance?

Is your dad the white one?

Do you have his last name?


Of course, if your biracial ness is white/Asian you don’t have to answer any previous questions. Asians are “white adjacent” now so being both just makes you white and therefore privileged and you ought to be ashamed.

This is the biggest piece of the anti - CRT playbook. Telling people that CRT exists to shame people. You were so close to getting it right that it is about acknowledging privilege. Nobody is asking white people to feel shame, but to simply acknowledge that it is GENERALLY easier to live life as a white person in America, and then shares evidence of why that is.

You, on the other hand, should probably be ashamed of your simplistic dismissal of an important topic.

Why? Why is this important? What purpose does doing this have?
And, is this something that should be done in an English class when we have a pretty miserable record of achievement when compared to other countries?

We don’t know the details of the assignment. Only this one page.

The assignment could have been asking students to examine their own perspective before reading or discussing characters in a book. Maybe the book had characters in the military.

If this were the case, FCPS would have clarified and explained why this activity was beneficial. They didn't.
That tells me that this was a pathetic attempt at focusing on characteristics of people that, for the most part, they have no choice in.
Examining one's perspective can be done in much better ways then this lame attempt. An open ended question about one's perspective is so much more enriching and employs a ton more critical thinking than the crap on this sheet, that, BTW - makes HUGE assumptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that the story is real — I need people to stop posting things from daily wire and daily mail and others. Regarding “privilege” — I know that military families are vaunted and valued in American society. There is a military families recognition (day, week— I am not sure). There are special offers and discounts for military families at venues and for products. There are scholarship and college admission benefits. I don’t see that treatment for police offer families or firefighter families.

Someone asked for FCPS response:

There is a quote from FCPS here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fairfax-schools-tell-children-of-military-members-that-they-have-privilege

Just because you don't like the source, does not make it a false story.
It ought to teach you that there IS a double standard in MSM reporting. The bias is shown in what they choose not to report. This is a real story. And, this is why people turn to conservative media--otherwise you only get one side of the story.

I read WAPO cover to cover every day--not so much the sports page. WAPO has reported nothing about the troubling--and racist--texts between Pekarsky and Omeish. That is just one example--but, had Schultz made racist statements as they did, it certainly would have been reported. That is why I read conservative media. You need to broaden your sources.

Tyson's statement said it was an "approved FCPS English curriculum lesson." That means that it was not developed by a teacher, but by the Instructional Services Dept. I don't know who leads the English Dept., but Noel Klimenko leads Instructional Services. Somebody in Instructional Services, or a teacher hired by IS created this.

When I saw Privilege Bingo, I thought it was designed for elementary school kids. The idea that someone at Gatehouse would foist this nonsense on high school English teachers, when they could be assigning books to students that would teach them about empathy in a more nuanced way, is seriously depressing.

And, the fact that it was most certainly created at the division level means that all teachers in the county had access to this.