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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

NP. That’s how I get my kids to Janney. Miss me with this “ItS a PaNdEmIc” nonsense, you’re fine with your kids going to in-person school every day but the bus or subway is just too scary? Not an excuse to be lazy and contribute to the awful traffic, sorry.

[Anonymous]

Are we allowed to talk about what a horrible idea the Deal WMATA bus is in the current pandemic environment?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we allowed to talk about what a horrible idea the Deal WMATA bus is in the current pandemic environment?

It’s fine. The kids are masked and largely vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

NP. That’s how I get my kids to Janney. Miss me with this “ItS a PaNdEmIc” nonsense, you’re fine with your kids going to in-person school every day but the bus or subway is just too scary? Not an excuse to be lazy and contribute to the awful traffic, sorry.

+1 the inside of a middle school is not some magic covid free zone compared to the bus or metro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are we allowed to talk about what a horrible idea the Deal WMATA bus is in the current pandemic environment?

It’s fine. The kids are masked and largely vaccinated.

This. We live EOTP (but in-boundary), and need the bus in order to make school actually work with our jobs and commutes.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

Right. And I’m sure you’re kid is having play date, playing sports etc. This is BS and you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

Right. And I’m sure you’re kid is having play date, playing sports etc. This is BS and you know it.

Yep, my kid is playing sports. Outside on a playing field where the chance of transmission is almost nil.

Covid mitigation, like all other risk mitigation, is not black or white. It's about percentages and tradeoffs. If you don't get that, you need to work on a bit more nuanced understanding of statistics ... and real life.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

Right. And I’m sure you’re kid is having play date, playing sports etc. This is BS and you know it.

Yep, my kid is playing sports. Outside on a playing field where the chance of transmission is almost nil.

Covid mitigation, like all other risk mitigation, is not black or white. It's about percentages and tradeoffs. If you don't get that, you need to work on a bit more nuanced understanding of statistics ... and real life.

DP but I get it…when you do cost/benefit, it is literally only in regards to your family. No concern for the other families, students, and teachers who are sharing how a simple contribution on everyone’s end (in this case public transit) would make a big difference

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

Right. And I’m sure you’re kid is having play date, playing sports etc. This is BS and you know it.

Yep, my kid is playing sports. Outside on a playing field where the chance of transmission is almost nil.

Covid mitigation, like all other risk mitigation, is not black or white. It's about percentages and tradeoffs. If you don't get that, you need to work on a bit more nuanced understanding of statistics ... and real life.

Yes. And your likely vaccinated kid is at more risk of injury being driven in your car after school than catching and being injured from Covid. Do you really want to talk about your understanding of statistics now?

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

Right. And I’m sure you’re kid is having play date, playing sports etc. This is BS and you know it.

Yep, my kid is playing sports. Outside on a playing field where the chance of transmission is almost nil.

Covid mitigation, like all other risk mitigation, is not black or white. It's about percentages and tradeoffs. If you don't get that, you need to work on a bit more nuanced understanding of statistics ... and real life.

Yes. And your likely vaccinated kid is at more risk of injury being driven in your car after school than catching and being injured from Covid. Do you really want to talk about your understanding of statistics now?

Except that he's a 6th grader. So he's not, as was articulated above. But nice try.

[Anonymous]

... and in summary - please follow guidelines and do not make u turn in the deal parking lot during drop-off, pick-up, or other times when there are many cars and pedestrians

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Anonymous wrote:For those of us whose kids are new to Deal, where are some good places a few blocks away to drop off/pick up, in order to stay away from the parking lot?

The best advice is to stay outside of the triangle formed by Nebraska, Cumberland, and Connecticut during drop off and pick up. You will sit and sit and sit once you enter that Bermuda triangle.

Take a look at a map and consider that Janney, Wilson, Deal, and Murch, with ~3500 people, are all within less than a 1 mile radius of each other, and now all the drop offs are happening simultaneously with people converging on the circle of schools from every direction and then back out again, all in the span of ~30 minutes. So, if you are headed to Deal, go somewhere northwest of the school and have the student use the path from Fessenden St. or south of Cumberland and walk a few blocks. If you try east of Deal, you get into the triangle and absolute mess around Murch and St. Paul's, if you try south of Deal you hit the Wilson traffic, particularly pedestrian traffic, if you try southwest, you get into the Janney and Metro pedestrian foot traffic and Wisconsin Ave. commuters. Keep in mind that soon, GDS to the west, Sidwell, to the south and Sheridan to the southeast will also be having drop off using the same main roads and cut throughs. Give yourselves a lot of time and be patient. Most kids walk to the preschools and elementary schools in the neighborhood, so please be mindful and careful.

A lot more people are driving to Deal and Wilson who previously would have been using public transportation. It has been a mess out there this week. Similar congestion is happening across town too.

Yours is actually the second best advice. The ACTUAL best advice from a traffic perspective would be to return about 1000 kids from Deal and Wilson to their neighborhood schools.

I went to Deal and Wilson in the 90s when they were more than 50% OOB kids. I don't know anyone who was driven to school on a regular basis. Everyone took the bus or metro or walked. Once we hit Wilson and kids would drive some kids would drive and park nearby so they could do sports practices but again, there were not tons of kids getting dropped off. Parents were not allowed in the Deal driveway at all. This issue has zero to do with OOB kids and everything to do with people driving thier kids short distances that could be covered by so many other transportation options.

Were you taking a crowded metro or bus in the middle of a pandemic? Didn't think so.

I am the PP you are responding to, and no, I walked 1.5 miles to Deal and Wilson growing up so I was not one of the ones taking the bus. I did take a crowded bus too work today in the pandemic, does that count?

People clearly don't understand the ideas of layers of risk.

Yes, I send my kid to in person school. I'm willing to accept the increased risk of covid because the tradeoff is hugely beneficial. However, I will drive my kid there because the increased risk of covid from being on a crowded bus is not something I am willing to accept since we have an alternative that is safer.

It's all about cost benefit choices; all of it.

Right. And I’m sure you’re kid is having play date, playing sports etc. This is BS and you know it.

Yep, my kid is playing sports. Outside on a playing field where the chance of transmission is almost nil.

Covid mitigation, like all other risk mitigation, is not black or white. It's about percentages and tradeoffs. If you don't get that, you need to work on a bit more nuanced understanding of statistics ... and real life.

Yes. And your likely vaccinated kid is at more risk of injury being driven in your car after school than catching and being injured from Covid. Do you really want to talk about your understanding of statistics now?

Except that he's a 6th grader. So he's not, as was articulated above. But nice try.

Again, your unvaccinated 6th grader is more likely to be injured in your car than catching Covid and getting sick/dying from a bus ride home. Try again.

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I don't know who is driving their kids. We are far but IB and the M4 is packed, packed, packed starting with kids at the bus stop at 8:00. If you drive down Utah or Nebraska you will see hoards at the stops.