Fight at Yorktown HS

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher, and I’m absolutely pissed they took the SROs out. I have seen it on more than one occasion where a child was being predated upon by an adult in the community, abs the SRO took care of business.

They’re not all Derek Chauvin. This is so ridiculous.


They aren’t gone.you can still call police. What you can’t do is interrogate a AA 3rd grader for stealing something off of your desk with out parental consent etc...

Btw the theft was white. This country has to much racial reckoning to deal with before we need cops near my kid. ( we are in a sought after north Arlington school btw)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher, and I’m absolutely pissed they took the SROs out. I have seen it on more than one occasion where a child was being predated upon by an adult in the community, abs the SRO took care of business.

They’re not all Derek Chauvin. This is so ridiculous.


Oh stop it - they didn’t send the SROs to the Bermuda Triangle, they are all just as close to being dispatched to a school as they are to your home or car. Somehow adults can manage to face their day without a cop waiting in their break room at the office, in case. If some student is being “predated upon” (I think the word you are looking for is “groomed”), then a youth-trained law enforcement officer is still able to intervene on the students behalf.

Either you have not bothered to understand what the changes are, or you are on the payroll of the new republican initiative to discredit local D prosecutors as being soft on crime by manufacturing outrage around recent progressive initiatives. We know your tactics.


Not the case. I’m THERE. I actually work in a high school. They provided an important and valuable function, and now they’re gone. I vote your way, too- but not on this. This is a knee jerk reaction to an incident that had nothing to do with them. It’s foolish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher, and I’m absolutely pissed they took the SROs out. I have seen it on more than one occasion where a child was being predated upon by an adult in the community, abs the SRO took care of business.

They’re not all Derek Chauvin. This is so ridiculous.


Oh stop it - they didn’t send the SROs to the Bermuda Triangle, they are all just as close to being dispatched to a school as they are to your home or car. Somehow adults can manage to face their day without a cop waiting in their break room at the office, in case. If some student is being “predated upon” (I think the word you are looking for is “groomed”), then a youth-trained law enforcement officer is still able to intervene on the students behalf.

Either you have not bothered to understand what the changes are, or you are on the payroll of the new republican initiative to discredit local D prosecutors as being soft on crime by manufacturing outrage around recent progressive initiatives. We know your tactics.


Not the case. I’m THERE. I actually work in a high school. They provided an important and valuable function, and now they’re gone. I vote your way, too- but not on this. This is a knee jerk reaction to an incident that had nothing to do with them. It’s foolish.


Also “groomed” is only typically used for sexual abuse. I’m sorry to have to tell you this, but criminals take advantage of teens in many, many ways.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

I am PP, a special ed teacher who has been injured at school.


Now that I am in my late 40s, there is no way I’m getting in the middle of one of these fights. Sorry, but I know my limitations. Students are stronger than me and it is not worth risking injury or liability.


+1 I used to jump in all the time. These days going forward? Nope. I am going back into my classroom and from there I will call the office to send help. I can't believe I typed that but it is what it is. My safety is important and we need those police officers in our schools.


DP who also works in Special Ed. I think a lot of people will just dial 911. That's probably going to end worse than having SROs who at least get to know the kids.


That says more about the officers you expect to respond than about whether SROs should be in schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher, and I’m absolutely pissed they took the SROs out. I have seen it on more than one occasion where a child was being predated upon by an adult in the community, abs the SRO took care of business.

They’re not all Derek Chauvin. This is so ridiculous.


They aren’t gone.you can still call police. What you can’t do is interrogate a AA 3rd grader for stealing something off of your desk with out parental consent etc...

Btw the theft was white. This country has to much racial reckoning to deal with before we need cops near my kid. ( we are in a sought after north Arlington school btw)


extra points for “sought after.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher, and I’m absolutely pissed they took the SROs out. I have seen it on more than one occasion where a child was being predated upon by an adult in the community, abs the SRO took care of business.

They’re not all Derek Chauvin. This is so ridiculous.


They aren’t gone.you can still call police. What you can’t do is interrogate a AA 3rd grader for stealing something off of your desk with out parental consent etc...

Btw the theft was white. This country has to much racial reckoning to deal with before we need cops near my kid. ( we are in a sought after north Arlington school btw)


extra points for “sought after.”


I’m deducting for “to” instead of “too”. I haven’t heard about this third grader thing, but I’m pretty sure if it happened at all, it was an isolated incident. I’m talking about high school. We need SROs in the high schools. Something will happen, and we’ll get them back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.


A lot can happen in “minutes”. Just hope it’s not your kid getting beat up while they’re waiting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.


A lot can happen in “minutes”. Just hope it’s not your kid getting beat up while they’re waiting.


But I mean the majority of us go through every single day without having police at our heels watching us. Is school inherently more dangerous than bars, or grocery stores, or the park?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.


A lot can happen in “minutes”. Just hope it’s not your kid getting beat up while they’re waiting.


But I mean the majority of us go through every single day without having police at our heels watching us. Is school inherently more dangerous than bars, or grocery stores, or the park?


NP. It absolutely is. If you don't understand that then you have no business at all responding here. Listen to the teachers and the parents who are telling you that the middle schools and high schools need permanent SROs assigned to their facilities. Their presence makes a huge difference and is absolutely necessary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.


A lot can happen in “minutes”. Just hope it’s not your kid getting beat up while they’re waiting.


+1 Because I, for one, am not going to help break up the fight or to go out into the crowd watching the fight. I will call the office and I will call 911. I will do both from the safety of my classroom with the door shut and locked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.


A lot can happen in “minutes”. Just hope it’s not your kid getting beat up while they’re waiting.


+1 Because I, for one, am not going to help break up the fight or to go out into the crowd watching the fight. I will call the office and I will call 911. I will do both from the safety of my classroom with the door shut and locked.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be interesting the first time a student or staff member is seriously hurt in a school this year because there is no SRO.

It will 100% happen.

Sending in a social worker won’t work in a brawl.

Students and teachers get hurt in schools with SROs too.




says somebody who isn't a teacher. I was there and this was a lot. even the custodians got involved in stopping kids. an SRO would have made me feel a lot better

Menu didn’t someone call the police then? I’m sure 10 APD could have been there within minutes.


A lot can happen in “minutes”. Just hope it’s not your kid getting beat up while they’re waiting.



But I mean the majority of us go through every single day without having police at our heels watching us. Is school inherently more dangerous than bars, or grocery stores, or the park?


NP. It absolutely is. If you don't understand that then you have no business at all responding here. Listen to the teachers and the parents who are telling you that the middle schools and high schools need permanent SROs assigned to their facilities. Their presence makes a huge difference and is absolutely necessary.


Thank you! I am so livid about this decision. I really hope it’s corrected before my kids hit high school. Like I said, something is going to happen, and maybe then we can get them back. Until then, we’re all in for a rough ride.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:our kids attend Wakefield- they thought the decision to remove SROs was bad and they said they made a difference

on the news regarding the Yorktown fight they interviewed 2 parents -1 Hispanic parent who said the police should have been called and 1 white parent who said police weren’t needed



Are your kids white?


No they are not
Anonymous
SRO is a gravy position for officers who are a PITA.

We never had cops in our school and there were fights on a weekly basis. Teachers usually broke up the fight, or if there were too many teachers around, the kids would just fight across the street.

SRO is pretty much a non issue in yuppie areas like Fairfax County. Now if we are talking about the East side of Detroit, maybe there is a need?
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