OK well we're not going to close schools because you're convinced that lunch will be a superspreader event. |
This is the CDC presentation that was released 2 days ago. https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/54f57708-a529-4a33-9a44-b66d719070d9/note/753667d6-8c61-495f-b669-5308f2827155.#page=15 It is stated right there that the delta variant is as contagious as the chicken pox. 15 minutes indoors unmasked with someone who is contagious with the chickenpox puts you at risk of being infected if you're not vaccinated against chickenpox. https://www.healthline.com/health/chickenpox-in-adults#risk-factors Note that those 15 minutes don't say anything about distance. |
"Healthline" really? Listen lady. Please enroll your child ASAP in Friendship Online Charter and leave DCPS alone. You clearly have no ability or interest in engaging with this topic in an informed manner. |
DP. I don’t want schools to close for lunch. But I do want them to eat in the classrooms rather than the lunchroom |
With this in mind. How do you feel about 8 hours in the same room with 25 people, wearing cloth masks and surgical masks, falling below noses, pulled down for water a few times? Do you think, maybe, 8 hours in a room wearing imperfect masks imperfectly would amount to 15 minutes in a room wearing no masks? I think so. How about if a third of the class declines asymptomatic testing because ultimately the parents have accepted the kids will contract covid and don't care? |
Oh for f's sake, call me Doctor. All i needed was a number of minutes we traditionally use as a threshold for contracting chickenpox. I'm not writing a meta-analysis here. |
You're on a thread with people arguing that SCHOOLS SHOULD CLOSE aren't you? So you're being tremendously irresponsible about this. If you have a genuine piece of evidence, please present it. Otherwise, gtfo with all the unsupported, goal-shifting allegations that are oh-so-familiar the last time WTU was trying to keep schools shut. |
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Well silly lady me, Did I say 15 minutes in the same room? How about another room near that room?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6289235/ Airborne transmission of chicken pox (=varicella): "An outbreak of nosocomial varicella was traced to airborne spread from an immunocompromised child hospitalized from Nov 11-19, 1980." "Although the index patient remained in strict room isolation throughout his hospital stay, eight of these patients contracted varicella." "A patient's risk of contracting varicella was significantly related to how near he/she came to the index patient's room that afternoon." "We suggest that patients hospitalized with varicella be placed in strict isolation in negative-pressure rooms to reduce the risk of nosocomial transmission." |
I feel fine about my child doing that because the benefits far outweigh the risks. Any other questions? I would also be fine with it myself because ... I am vaccinated! |
| The amount of crazy sh*t being posted on this thread is wild. Somebody REALLY wants to scare DCPS parents. Gross. |
Yeah, you're really persuading us all about a FORTY YEAR OLD ARTICLE ABOUT A DIFFERENT VIRUS IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SETTING |
It's that flu bro mom that kept taunting me and taunting me "you don't even have science to support it! Give me the links, lady! You can't even have an informed conversation!" I promise I didn't even *want* to go dig out a 1982 Pediatrics study. It is crazy relevant, and I'm more scared than I was before I found it. |
Let me get this straight. A 40-year old article you googled, that is a retrospective study of 8 cases, in a completely different setting than schools, with no information about time of exposures, ABOUT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIRUS ... is "crazy relevant" to 20-minute school lunches? More relevant than the CDC? More than the NYTimes? How about you just read this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/well/family/back-to-school-covid.html |
1. I didn't google it, I searched PubMed, because you were taunting me to start a science fight. 2. you continue to use all caps for the fact that it's a different virus, but the CDC (citation linked above) has stated delta is as contagious as chicken pox, so a study of a chicken pox outbreak is relevant. 3. You're wildly unreasonable (uninformed? Intellectually dishonest? Who knows) to reject a a '40 year old' study published in Pediatrics. Air microbiology and the laws of physics haven't changed. 4. Um, yeah, more relevant that the NYTimes, which I love and respect. |
You think this is a "science fight"? Ok. I have tried to get Jeff to delete your post as wildly speculative/verging on deliberately misleading, but looks like he hasn't gotten to it or does not want ot. |