swim team divisionals

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry if this takes this off topic, but general question about divisionals for those with more experience: In the younger age groups, do the kids that are ranked near the top going into divisionals generally make it to all stars? Like are the performances pretty consistent with the rankings or is it really a wild card as to who from divisionals ends up in all stars? Right now my kid is ranked high enough to make all stars in their best event if everyone performs consistent with their current ranking. I know anything can happen with little kids, but just wondering whether it is fairly easy to predict who will make all stars just based on pre-divisionals rankings.

I promise I am not asking this because I am super invested in my kid making it to all stars. I'm actually feeling the opposite -- would rather have that weekend open to do something more enjoyable that we were invited to. But I don't want to deny my kid the opportunity to go to all stars if they end up making it. I did not think this would be in the cards at all this season and am honestly not thrilled that we aren't done with meets yet. I want my kid to enjoy the ride but man I want my summer weekends back.


Pretty unpredictable. I do think kids that swim year around are likely to stay basically the same time. Newbies can drop a ton of time in a week or two.


I agree it’s unpredictable. 8 and unders can be all over the place and year round swimmers may have been stuck swimming in strokes they don’t want (by coaches, for points) and they can elect to swim something new at divisionals and place high. The best way to get a good idea is to change the year from ‘21 to ‘19, ‘18 and ‘17 and also change “all meets” to “ divisionals” and check those times. If your kid’s time is top 12, they’ve got a good shot. You can see from different years, though, that the times vary greatly by year.

For example:

‘19, the last 8 year old boy to make a 25 free had a 17.64 time but in ‘16, it was an 18.02. In 2019, that kid who go the 18th spot with an 18.02 would have been ranked 28th in 2019.

You can all check the times got just dual meets. This year, the 18th kid for the 25 meter free from a meets only is 18.37 but in ‘19 it was a 17.81. It would appear that this year the 8 and unders boys are quite a bit slower in free and making the cut may be easier this year. Again, this is just based on the data we have…and that age group can be very unpredictable.


the last few lanes of all stars may be unpredictable, the first 5-10 are not.


There are only so many spots for MCSL All Stars so you might have an all-star time but whether you make the actual meet depends on how others do which is not under your control. I agree that some kids are so good and so consistent that you know they will stay in the top and make the meet.
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Anonymous wrote:Also, the younger summer-only kids are basically a year behind skill wise since they missed a whole summer of swim team last year.


? Our swim team practiced as normal last year and held virtual meets.


That’s nice, and unusual around here.
Most swim teams did not have a swim season.


in Virginia a ton did, especially the larger teams
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Anonymous wrote:Does individual swimmer performance at divisionals mean anything for team standing? Or is it only about an individual swimmer's rankings?

Curious about whether a coach is motivated to assign slots based on having the best overall outcome for the team or if slots awarded based on top swimmer's preferences only. (New family obviously, essentially wondering if strong swimmers in free or back who are only legal options for breast/fly could be asked to swim those, even if they'd rather do free/back).


It's only about seeing who comes out on top in the final volunteer hours ranking.
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