Alexandria - Duke St - take the survey - more bus lanes, bike lanes, etc...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did the survey and de prioritized buses. But prioritized intersection and sidewalk improvements. If people are not taking them currently then there would be a use case. Giving them a whole lane of traffic and fancy stops will not encourage more use in the future. Just look at the dedicated lane from Potomac Yard to Crystal City, while it’s nice to see infrastructure improvements of any kind, that thing is not exactly drawing a lot of riders.

If you want to talk about competing priorities, the dedicated bus lane forces cyclists into sharing the single lane with cars from Potomac to Crystal City Drive. Safety...right...

Against signage otherwise, I now encourage everyone to just use the bus lane which is often empty...which they have to share anyway 1000 feet north.

Yeah, that's not competing priorities. There could be bike lanes AND bus lanes, if somebody were willing to reassign some of the road space currently assigned to cars.

Spoken like a planner who hasn’t actually been to this intersection, ridden a bike, or looked a map.

Crystal Drive is one lane each way, and then your precious and empty bus lane. Next are the sidewalks. Would you like the sidewalks too? There isn’t space for everything, which is why cyclists are forced into the car lane, and then back into the bus lane.

If youre so pro bus, and there is a lane here, hand over your car and delete uber.

Don't be an anti-bus bicyclist, please. It's not a good look. People complain about "empty" bike lanes just like they complain about "empty" bus lanes, and largely the same people, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did the survey and de prioritized buses. But prioritized intersection and sidewalk improvements. If people are not taking them currently then there would be a use case. Giving them a whole lane of traffic and fancy stops will not encourage more use in the future. Just look at the dedicated lane from Potomac Yard to Crystal City, while it’s nice to see infrastructure improvements of any kind, that thing is not exactly drawing a lot of riders.

If you want to talk about competing priorities, the dedicated bus lane forces cyclists into sharing the single lane with cars from Potomac to Crystal City Drive. Safety...right...

Against signage otherwise, I now encourage everyone to just use the bus lane which is often empty...which they have to share anyway 1000 feet north.

Yeah, that's not competing priorities. There could be bike lanes AND bus lanes, if somebody were willing to reassign some of the road space currently assigned to cars.

Spoken like a planner who hasn’t actually been to this intersection, ridden a bike, or looked a map.

Crystal Drive is one lane each way, and then your precious and empty bus lane. Next are the sidewalks. Would you like the sidewalks too? There isn’t space for everything, which is why cyclists are forced into the car lane, and then back into the bus lane.

If youre so pro bus, and there is a lane here, hand over your car and delete uber.

Don't be an anti-bus bicyclist, please. It's not a good look. People complain about "empty" bike lanes just like they complain about "empty" bus lanes, and largely the same people, too.

It’s really living the stereotype of the selfish cyclist.

[Anonymous]

My concern is that they will turn the current 3 lanes of traffic in each direction, into 1 lane for cars, 1 lane for bikes, and 1 lane for bus transit. I'm not anti bus nor anti bike - but Duke St is currently a major commercial center, full of stores and services that don't lend themselves well to transit devoted primarily to bus and bike (grocery, car repair, big box stores). Those businesses will suffer if the traffic is made considerably worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did the survey and de prioritized buses. But prioritized intersection and sidewalk improvements. If people are not taking them currently then there would be a use case. Giving them a whole lane of traffic and fancy stops will not encourage more use in the future. Just look at the dedicated lane from Potomac Yard to Crystal City, while it’s nice to see infrastructure improvements of any kind, that thing is not exactly drawing a lot of riders.

If you want to talk about competing priorities, the dedicated bus lane forces cyclists into sharing the single lane with cars from Potomac to Crystal City Drive. Safety...right...

Against signage otherwise, I now encourage everyone to just use the bus lane which is often empty...which they have to share anyway 1000 feet north.

Yeah, that's not competing priorities. There could be bike lanes AND bus lanes, if somebody were willing to reassign some of the road space currently assigned to cars.

Spoken like a planner who hasn’t actually been to this intersection, ridden a bike, or looked a map.

Crystal Drive is one lane each way, and then your precious and empty bus lane. Next are the sidewalks. Would you like the sidewalks too? There isn’t space for everything, which is why cyclists are forced into the car lane, and then back into the bus lane.

If youre so pro bus, and there is a lane here, hand over your car and delete uber.

Don't be an anti-bus bicyclist, please. It's not a good look. People complain about "empty" bike lanes just like they complain about "empty" bus lanes, and largely the same people, too.

As a cyclist, and not one of those that clips pedestrians, bike lanes should require the same justification. Actual use. Transportation should transport the most people, in the least amount of time, as safely as possible. If a lane isn’t being used, and I’ve yet to see any document that actually records use (which is standard for cars), the limited space should be used for something else.

Nevermind half the stuff being pushed isn’t safe for cyclists either. If drivers were looking to their left when opening doors, passengers aren’t going to look right.

People who actually ride bicycles know this. Shill interest groups and illiterates who are pro whatever fantasy world, but don’t live it by riding a bicycle (or taking the bus or living a density life style), don’t know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My concern is that they will turn the current 3 lanes of traffic in each direction, into 1 lane for cars, 1 lane for bikes, and 1 lane for bus transit. I'm not anti bus nor anti bike - but Duke St is currently a major commercial center, full of stores and services that don't lend themselves well to transit devoted primarily to bus and bike (grocery, car repair, big box stores). Those businesses will suffer if the traffic is made considerably worse.

Get ready for name calling…NIMBY. Probably racist too.

[Anonymous]

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As a cyclist, and not one of those that clips pedestrians, bike lanes should require the same justification. Actual use. Transportation should transport the most people, in the least amount of time, as safely as possible. If a lane isn’t being used, and I’ve yet to see any document that actually records use (which is standard for cars), the limited space should be used for something else.

Nevermind half the stuff being pushed isn’t safe for cyclists either. If drivers were looking to their left when opening doors, passengers aren’t going to look right.

People who actually ride bicycles know this. Shill interest groups and illiterates who are pro whatever fantasy world, but don’t live it by riding a bicycle (or taking the bus or living a density life style), don’t know this.

John Forester, posting from the grave.