All these new bike lanes that the city put in downturn during the pandemic are dumb

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny how easy it is to trigger the bike weirdos. I wonder if a bat signal went out or if its just the same person posting over and over and over.

It’s the same two people. You can recognize their verbiage. They do a forum search for keywords and then make 100% of the pro-bike-whatever posts in the whole thread, every time there’s a discussion of anything bike-related. The rest of the world is united in their disdain for MAMIL’s, but if you don’t realize it’s the same couple posters over and over again, you’d think they were everywhere. They’re not.

I think you have some kind of thing for men in Lycra. That's fine and all, but maybe take it to the explicit forum. We're talking about average people here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hate the bike lanes as well and agree less people will be coming in regularly to work downtown after having a break from the commute with pandemic.

Less people will be coming in because we have learned that a lot can be done remotely. That means a lot of the downtown office space will be converted to wework style swing space or residential.

Oh yeah huge future for WeWork with virtual meetings and people buying homes with offices . . .

[Anonymous]

DC's bike lanes were long planned. Not really a COVID thing.

Paris is the place where new bike lanes are going to be permanent. And people love them:

https://road.cc/content/news/6-10-users-pop-bike-lanes-paris-new-cycling-280681

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hate the bike lanes as well and agree less people will be coming in regularly to work downtown after having a break from the commute with pandemic.

Less people will be coming in because we have learned that a lot can be done remotely. That means a lot of the downtown office space will be converted to wework style swing space or residential.

Oh yeah huge future for WeWork with virtual meetings and people buying homes with offices . . .

More room for housing, especially affordable housing downtown would be great.

[Anonymous]

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I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

Aw, dude, now I know you're just trolling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

Aw, dude, now I know you're just trolling.

It's funny because it's true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny how easy it is to trigger the bike weirdos. I wonder if a bat signal went out or if its just the same person posting over and over and over.

It’s the same two people. You can recognize their verbiage. They do a forum search for keywords and then make 100% of the pro-bike-whatever posts in the whole thread, every time there’s a discussion of anything bike-related. The rest of the world is united in their disdain for MAMIL’s, but if you don’t realize it’s the same couple posters over and over again, you’d think they were everywhere. They’re not.

You're right and it's funny how desperate they are to make it seem like there is this huge ground welling of support for cycling. It's really funny and quite silly that people have decided to waste their time promoting pro-bike propaganda on this website. There is not a single person here that is persuadable by this propaganda.

There is a bike lane one block from my house and I could stand out there all day and count maybe 10 bikes in 8 hours go by. At a basic economics level, the cost-benefit analysis is poor. It smacks of privilege that millions of dollars are being spent on an amenity for mostly white men, when so many in this city have been neglected for so long.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny how easy it is to trigger the bike weirdos. I wonder if a bat signal went out or if its just the same person posting over and over and over.

It’s the same two people. You can recognize their verbiage. They do a forum search for keywords and then make 100% of the pro-bike-whatever posts in the whole thread, every time there’s a discussion of anything bike-related. The rest of the world is united in their disdain for MAMIL’s, but if you don’t realize it’s the same couple posters over and over again, you’d think they were everywhere. They’re not.

You're right and it's funny how desperate they are to make it seem like there is this huge ground welling of support for cycling. It's really funny and quite silly that people have decided to waste their time promoting pro-bike propaganda on this website. There is not a single person here that is persuadable by this propaganda.

There is a bike lane one block from my house and I could stand out there all day and count maybe 10 bikes in 8 hours go by. At a basic economics level, the cost-benefit analysis is poor. It smacks of privilege that millions of dollars are being spent on an amenity for mostly white men, when so many in this city have been neglected for so long.

Sounds like you live in a very privileged area. Or you're completely blind to the lower Black and Latino people who bike around DC all the time. Look for construction workers. Look for the young men - the ones you cross the street to avoid, yeah them. Why don't they deserve a safe place to bike?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny how easy it is to trigger the bike weirdos. I wonder if a bat signal went out or if its just the same person posting over and over and over.

It’s the same two people. You can recognize their verbiage. They do a forum search for keywords and then make 100% of the pro-bike-whatever posts in the whole thread, every time there’s a discussion of anything bike-related. The rest of the world is united in their disdain for MAMIL’s, but if you don’t realize it’s the same couple posters over and over again, you’d think they were everywhere. They’re not.

You're right and it's funny how desperate they are to make it seem like there is this huge ground welling of support for cycling. It's really funny and quite silly that people have decided to waste their time promoting pro-bike propaganda on this website. There is not a single person here that is persuadable by this propaganda.

There is a bike lane one block from my house and I could stand out there all day and count maybe 10 bikes in 8 hours go by. At a basic economics level, the cost-benefit analysis is poor. It smacks of privilege that millions of dollars are being spent on an amenity for mostly white men, when so many in this city have been neglected for so long.

Isn't this whole website a silly waste of time where no one is persuaded by anything? What's your point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're going to make traffic and parking impossible. And then what will happen? People will stop going downtown. They'll work from home more and generally do everything they can to avoid going downtown. Sorry downtown businesses! Sorry people who like their downtowns vibrant!

Just like with the minimum wage thing, the bike nuts are going to learn what the socialists learned about the center of power in this town. If there is even a suspicion that they are hurting businesses they will be taken out.

Wow. Someone's mad...this has been in the works for years. There's a reason D.C. is the #1 city in the U.S. for bikes traffic. And guess what? More foot traffic (literally) means more tourists and visitors who can take the time to shop, play, and gather at local D.C. businesses.

I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

Bikes lanes -- and bike commuting -- are great for single / childless people who's main concern is scooting to work, the coffee shop, or the bar. Not so great for people with families who need to get kids to/from school on their commutes (I live in DC and work in VA [neither home nor work near metro]), older people not up for biking, the disabled, etc.

Those that wish to squeeze out private cars may win, but we won't become Peking 1960 -- instead, DC will be overflowing with taxis, Uber, and Lyft.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to make traffic and parking impossible. And then what will happen? People will stop going downtown. They'll work from home more and generally do everything they can to avoid going downtown. Sorry downtown businesses! Sorry people who like their downtowns vibrant!

Just like with the minimum wage thing, the bike nuts are going to learn what the socialists learned about the center of power in this town. If there is even a suspicion that they are hurting businesses they will be taken out.

Wow. Someone's mad...this has been in the works for years. There's a reason D.C. is the #1 city in the U.S. for bikes traffic. And guess what? More foot traffic (literally) means more tourists and visitors who can take the time to shop, play, and gather at local D.C. businesses.

I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

Bikes lanes -- and bike commuting -- are great for single / childless people who's main concern is scooting to work, the coffee shop, or the bar. Not so great for people with families who need to get kids to/from school on their commutes (I live in DC and work in VA [neither home nor work near metro]), older people not up for biking, the disabled, etc.

Those that wish to squeeze out private cars may win, but we won't become Peking 1960 -- instead, DC will be overflowing with taxis, Uber, and Lyft.

For young kids, I've seen a real boom in the number and types of kid-carrying bikes, especially with e-assist becoming more mainstream.

And don't forget about older kids. My middle-school kid would love to bike to school, but there aren't safe routes. Especially with the way people drive around here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to make traffic and parking impossible. And then what will happen? People will stop going downtown. They'll work from home more and generally do everything they can to avoid going downtown. Sorry downtown businesses! Sorry people who like their downtowns vibrant!

Just like with the minimum wage thing, the bike nuts are going to learn what the socialists learned about the center of power in this town. If there is even a suspicion that they are hurting businesses they will be taken out.

Wow. Someone's mad...this has been in the works for years. There's a reason D.C. is the #1 city in the U.S. for bikes traffic. And guess what? More foot traffic (literally) means more tourists and visitors who can take the time to shop, play, and gather at local D.C. businesses.

I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

I guess you haven't seen the hundreds of thousands in the US and millions globally who shop using bikes and *gasp* carry stuff on cargo racks or paniers.

[Anonymous]

making traffic worse, no matter how you do it -- whether it's with too many cars or by reducing the capacity of streets to accommodate cars -- fuels sprawl. so, good job, dc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to make traffic and parking impossible. And then what will happen? People will stop going downtown. They'll work from home more and generally do everything they can to avoid going downtown. Sorry downtown businesses! Sorry people who like their downtowns vibrant!

Just like with the minimum wage thing, the bike nuts are going to learn what the socialists learned about the center of power in this town. If there is even a suspicion that they are hurting businesses they will be taken out.

Wow. Someone's mad...this has been in the works for years. There's a reason D.C. is the #1 city in the U.S. for bikes traffic. And guess what? More foot traffic (literally) means more tourists and visitors who can take the time to shop, play, and gather at local D.C. businesses.

I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

Tell that to all the people in Holland who manage just fine.

In case you have not noticed, this is not the Netherlands.

And yet, people from the US travel to Amsterdam and Paris, gush about how wonderful they are, and then oppose the very steps we can take here to make the same decisions they did 40 years ago. Hint, once upon a time, Amsterdam and Paris were just as car-dependent as DC is today. These are choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to make traffic and parking impossible. And then what will happen? People will stop going downtown. They'll work from home more and generally do everything they can to avoid going downtown. Sorry downtown businesses! Sorry people who like their downtowns vibrant!

Just like with the minimum wage thing, the bike nuts are going to learn what the socialists learned about the center of power in this town. If there is even a suspicion that they are hurting businesses they will be taken out.

Wow. Someone's mad...this has been in the works for years. There's a reason D.C. is the #1 city in the U.S. for bikes traffic. And guess what? More foot traffic (literally) means more tourists and visitors who can take the time to shop, play, and gather at local D.C. businesses.

I think you are confused. There is no anger here, just pointing out the obvious.

I'm also not sure how your math works. Bike lanes lead to more foot traffic that leads to more tourists arriving on airplanes? It makes no sense. Good luck for the average person shopping with a bike, riding away with a bag hanging from their handlebars causing friction against the front wheel. Sounds like utopia.

You are an idiot.

Though we own a car we bike for all sorts of things including to get groceries and I hate to burst your ignorant bubble but its no big deal and biking in fact is quite nice except for all of the fumes and dangerous driving from lazy people like you.

Also people flying in from out of town (whether business travelers or tourists) don't rent cars when they come to DC - it is just the idiots like you commuting in from Olney and Herndon in their SUVs who are upset about this which is why I bet most of the people on here complaining about some of our streets being converted to non car use are lazy and entitled suburbanites - if you want a voice in this move to DC and speak up. In the meantime your measly contribution to the DC budget in the taxes on your occasional meal in DC won't be missed at all.

Bye bye!

I love touring cities by bike. European cities are typically pretty great for it. There's just no reasonable way to drive and park everywhere. It's quite fun to do it by bike.

And there is no reason we can't have that here. European cities in the 1970's were just as car-dependent as US cities. But at the oil shocks in 73 and 79, they went a different route, invested in light rail/streetcars and bike infrastructure. We didn't, until now.